How long unil disc braked road bikes become the norm?
How long unil disc braked road bikes become the norm?
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AyBee

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11,319 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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As above - at what point (if ever), do people think manufacturers will start producing whole road line-ups with only disc brakes?

TwistingMyMelon

6,507 posts

234 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Don't think they ever will, could have said the same when Compacts were introduced

I'd like discs on winter bikes/commuters, otherwise Rim brakes do me proud

I think they will become popular and maybe even dominate the line up, but I cant seem them being the only option

There will always be traditionalist who prefer rim.

Plus cable operated disks aren't the best to setup and live with and hydro options add cost and complexity (relatively), whereas rim breaks are proven and do the job

MC Bodge

29,625 posts

204 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Fashion drives everything. It will happen.

Maybe 750C wheels will be the next big thing?

Fetchez la vache

5,898 posts

243 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Why stop at a Road bike with disc brakes?

How about adding suspension as well? Cannondale Slate suspension road bike

TwistingMyMelon

6,507 posts

234 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Don't laugh, I think the next big thing over the next few years will be subtle boost type motors that operate in or on the rear hub on road bikes, like the kerrs system in F1, for assistance up hills or when sprinting.

Some of the Swiss electronic bikes are getting quite speedy as well!

Above isn't my cup of tea at all, but I can see some people loving it.

Fugazi

564 posts

150 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Don't laugh, I think the next big thing over the next few years will be subtle boost type motors that operate in or on the rear hub on road bikes, like the kerrs system in F1, for assistance up hills or when sprinting.
They exist already, albeit at a massive cost. Road Bike Motor If somebody started making those at a more reasonable cost and tidied up the wire installation I think you'd start to see upsets on Strava laugh

sjg

7,675 posts

294 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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How long until we can go a fortnight without a new road disc brakes thread?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

yellowjack

18,434 posts

195 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Fetchez la vache said:
Why stop at a Road bike with disc brakes?

How about adding suspension as well? Cannondale Slate suspension road bike
I'm ashamed to say this,but I MASSIVELY want one of those!

I've been riding Gorrick MTB race laps on my '97 Falcon Pro-Line road bike the last few days, but that 'Dale Slate would knock seven shades of st out of it on my preferred off-road trails. I'll be so disappointed if I find out that I've fallen for an old April Fool's joke...

Barchettaman

7,254 posts

161 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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AyBee said:
As above - at what point (if ever), do people think manufacturers will start producing whole road line-ups with only disc brakes?
What, like Volagi do already?

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Don't laugh, I think the next big thing over the next few years will be subtle boost type motors that operate in or on the rear hub on road bikes, like the kerrs system in F1, for assistance up hills or when sprinting.

Some of the Swiss electronic bikes are getting quite speedy as well!

Above isn't my cup of tea at all, but I can see some people loving it.
I agree, KERS will be the future of bikes. E-bikes are ok but the battery still weighs the same whether its full or empty which will always be the biggest issue. Having a KERS system that can add short sharp boost that is always "charged" would be perfect.

As for discs, cant see the point. I rode most of Velothon Wales with a guy on a Synapse with discs and not once did I wish I had discs. For wet, muddy conditions they are fine, CX racing etc but for most road rides, they are just not neseccary and rim brakes with quality pads are more than adequate, even for alpine descents. If you need discs on an alpine desent, you probably need to develop better cornering skills as you are unlikely to be descending at pro speeds.

Gravel bikes and "adventure" bikes are just marketing terms, look what the pros ride at Roubaix for example. We havent had a properly wet Roubaix for a few years either. In the US where these things appear to originate, like 29ers, they have big forests with wide gravel roads, ideal for a slack angle, wide rimmed road bike but we dont have too many of those roads here so you just see people riding things like that Synapse on sportives which is fine but is a little unnecessary (I hate the term "over-biked") or not using the bike tothe fuill potential, I dont really care, each to their own.

99% of road riders would fare perfectly well with pads and rims, thats the conclusion.

The only reason the UCI havent approved use of discs in the pro peloton yet is because they feel obliged to wait for Campagnolo to come up with a reliable system! wink

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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They won't be the norm. As lots, including me, find traditional/cheaper/simpler brakes, perfectly adequate for a road bike.

AyBee

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11,319 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Barchettaman said:
AyBee said:
As above - at what point (if ever), do people think manufacturers will start producing whole road line-ups with only disc brakes?
What, like Volagi do already?
Who? tongue out I'm talking about the mainstream manufacturers - my thinking is that it will become far more expensive to continue to develop 2 types of brakes when disc brakes can be used across a range, negating the need for rim brakes so I think road rim brakes will eventually be discontinued.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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AyBee said:
Barchettaman said:
AyBee said:
As above - at what point (if ever), do people think manufacturers will start producing whole road line-ups with only disc brakes?
What, like Volagi do already?
Who? tongue out I'm talking about the mainstream manufacturers - my thinking is that it will become far more expensive to continue to develop 2 types of brakes when disc brakes can be used across a range, negating the need for rim brakes so I think road rim brakes will eventually be discontinued.
Have you seen how many BB variants there are?... and you worry about the costs of two types of brake?!!!

For years MTBS were fitted with rim and disc mounts and for road bikes its even easier because MTBs ran V-brakes with ugly brake mounts poking out the front, road bikes have a far neater solution with a single hole in the fork.

The manufacturers just need to fit disc mounts to the fork and frame which is easy with most materials and continue to drill a hole in the fork and seat stay bridge thus you can have the option of either rim or disc brakes.

Most manufacturers, Trekalised etc, wont do this though but the forward thinking, customer centric companies will.

TwistingMyMelon

6,507 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Reminds me of when I started going on decent longer faster road rides with a new mate

He used to chastise me for braking for everything ...he'd always scream don't brake

He was right , you actually need to brake A LOT less than you think

When out on a club run , you don't ever want to touch your breaks, unless you want 10 angry men rammed up your arse!

Obvs commuting in town cities and big descents are different, but it is amazing how little you need to brake and I certainly was doing it loads out of habit when it had little or no effect.

Jimbo.

4,216 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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TwistingMyMelon said:
...unless you want 10 angry men rammed up your arse!
Don't knock it until you've tried it, sweetie winkbiggrin

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Reminds me of when I started going on decent longer faster road rides with a new mate

He used to chastise me for braking for everything ...he'd always scream don't brake

He was right , you actually need to brake A LOT less than you think

When out on a club run , you don't ever want to touch your breaks, unless you want 10 angry men rammed up your arse!

Obvs commuting in town cities and big descents are different, but it is amazing how little you need to brake and I certainly was doing it loads out of habit when it had little or no effect.
Thus going to show what an effective teaching aid getting repeatedly rammed up the arse by ten angry men is, as it clearly helped you to learn not to brake so much.