Saint / Zee pad life compared to Deore/SLX/XT
Discussion
From many years of trying different pads I'd settled on Goodridge sintered as basically being the best outlasting everything else and offering the best stopping power. Today I wore out another set of rears, made me think I get through a lot of rear pads, loads in fact probably every couple of weeks over winter. So started thinking bigger pads is the way to go, ordered a Zee and a set of Goodridge sintered pads for it. Do people find they last considerably longer than the smaller XT etc pads, just wondering if it'll be night and day like when I put AP Racing 4 pot sized pads and callipers on my track day car to replace the little standard sliding caliper jobs, went from killing pads daily to basically being able to forget about even needing to check them month on end.
I've got Zee on my DH bike and they have lasted very well so far. I've been using them for over a year during which time I have done Cwmcarn, Rheola, Innerleither, the megavalanche and many many local trips, and I doubt if i'll even bother checking the pad wear for a while yet as they still have plenty left
The Cwmcarn XC loops actually have I'd think from riding both XC and DH more decending than the DH over its course and they certainly last far longer, the more technical tight nature means more braking required, I have seen plenty of people with smoking / steaming discs at the bottom of the XC loop, never seen the same on the DH as its quite an easy open track you can carry more speed on and don't need the brakes as much.
Anyway I purely want bigger pad area so I'm changing pads less, power wise the Deore currently on its fine, more power will just be a happy bonus. :-)
I really should go and do another uplift day at Cwmcarn, I do less DH these days as I find it hard to get people to ride with, all of my mates I used to DH with have decided they are now too old so have given up.
Anyway I purely want bigger pad area so I'm changing pads less, power wise the Deore currently on its fine, more power will just be a happy bonus. :-)
I really should go and do another uplift day at Cwmcarn, I do less DH these days as I find it hard to get people to ride with, all of my mates I used to DH with have decided they are now too old so have given up.
Edited by Herman Toothrot on Sunday 5th April 16:37
Don't really need to brake massively on trail centre loops.
Do you do a lot of wet weather riding? Depending on where that's probably the biggest factor. ESP if it's gritty
Never noticed wear decreasing with more pistons. Hopefully you'll be able to brake harder later with your new kit.
Do you do a lot of wet weather riding? Depending on where that's probably the biggest factor. ESP if it's gritty
Never noticed wear decreasing with more pistons. Hopefully you'll be able to brake harder later with your new kit.
Herman Toothrot said:
I have seen plenty of people with smoking / steaming discs at the bottom of the XC loop, never seen the same on the DH as its quite an easy open track you can carry more speed on and don't need the brakes as much.
I really should go and do another uplift day at Cwmcarn, I do less DH these days as I find it hard to get people to ride with, all of my mates I used to DH with have decided they are now too old so have given up.
fair enough, I've only ever done the DH at cwmcarn and you're right it is pretty tame compared to a lot of places.I really should go and do another uplift day at Cwmcarn, I do less DH these days as I find it hard to get people to ride with, all of my mates I used to DH with have decided they are now too old so have given up.
I lost almost all of my DH friends a few years ago as they went over to trail bikes or road bikes, but I think it's making a bit of a comeback now as I have more DH bike equipped riding friends now than I have ever had, and I live in Kent so not exactly a prime downhill region
joema said:
Don't really need to brake massively on trail centre loops.
Do you do a lot of wet weather riding? Depending on where that's probably the biggest factor. ESP if it's gritty
Never noticed wear decreasing with more pistons. Hopefully you'll be able to brake harder later with your new kit.
Yeah I ride whatever the weather, last trip to Cwmcarn it was snowing :-)Do you do a lot of wet weather riding? Depending on where that's probably the biggest factor. ESP if it's gritty
Never noticed wear decreasing with more pistons. Hopefully you'll be able to brake harder later with your new kit.
deadtom said:
fair enough, I've only ever done the DH at cwmcarn and you're right it is pretty tame compared to a lot of places.
I lost almost all of my DH friends a few years ago as they went over to trail bikes or road bikes, but I think it's making a bit of a comeback now as I have more DH bike equipped riding friends now than I have ever had, and I live in Kent so not exactly a prime downhill region
Kents a good bit away from good DH riding, good on you finding time to get out to Wales etc , my Mrs is from Sandwich and my parents are still S.Wales where I grew up (my dad was born in Abercarn, village next to Cwmcarn) its a long old drive. We live near Reading now so halfway and not too bad 1.5hrs to Cwmcarn 2hrs to BPW, Aston Hill is most local as the bird flys but roads are sI lost almost all of my DH friends a few years ago as they went over to trail bikes or road bikes, but I think it's making a bit of a comeback now as I have more DH bike equipped riding friends now than I have ever had, and I live in Kent so not exactly a prime downhill region
t so it takes 50mins to get there, Tidworth free ride is a bit further but to dirt jump orientated for me. I did most of my DH riding / racing '93 to '99 on the old Dragon series tracks, only got a DH bike again in 2013 and have been going on my own, not ideal. Welsh XC trails however I have no trouble convincing mates to come along so I do more of that and tend to really go for it on the downhills to make up for it.
Edited by Herman Toothrot on Sunday 5th April 19:15
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