Hill repeats - how?
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Longers

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257 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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I know the obvious answer to the question in the title is "roll down a hill, ride up it and repeat...." but is there a particular way to get the max benefit from doing this, such as trying to maintain the same pace, cadence or effort each time? Or should I simply drag myself up as many times as possible as quickly as I can before my energy and/or time available run out?

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z4chris99

12,519 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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no idea. I've done it once and just kept going up and down till I was about to puke


TwistingMyMelon

6,510 posts

234 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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As above

For hill training I just pack in as many hills as poss on a 2 hour ride and attack them hard, usually get 4 or 5 16-20% hills in over two hours

Or I do small circuits that feature the same hills, our town centre has a couple of small steepish ones, I go up one then down the other and repeat about 5 times....

Going up and down the same hill repeatedly doesn't appeal to me

z4chris99

12,519 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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nor me, but i live in london and hills are hard to find.. its usually find hill, go up to top, turn round, repeat.

TwistingMyMelon

6,510 posts

234 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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z4chris99 said:
nor me, but i live in london and hills are hard to find.. its usually find hill, go up to top, turn round, repeat.
Indeed. Good point, where I used to live I used to do the same, as there was only one hill and even that wasn't upto much

neenaw

1,225 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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z4chris99 said:
nor me, but i live in london and hills are hard to find.. its usually find hill, go up to top, turn round, repeat.
The only hill close to me that's worth doing repeats on isn't overly long. As a result, I ride the hill at maximum effort then keep going hard over the top of the hill for about 1/2 a mile or so to the descent which brings me to the bottom of the initial hill. I then repeat it about half a dozen more times.

I'm not sure if that's how I meant to do hill repeats but it seems to work for me!

shouldbworking

4,801 posts

241 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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There's no magic to hill reps, it is essentially just a variation of interval training. Arguably it might not even by optimal as you work the muscles used in climbing more - if your typical ride is flat as a pancake you'd be better off doing interval training on the flat. In my opinion the only difference is that hill reps are mentally easier to commit too because there's a physical target to achieve between reps rather than just a time or distance marker on the flat.

AyBee

11,321 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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When I was doing some hills as training for a holiday in Majorca, I rode from London to Box Hill (this being the nearest I could find in terms of gradient to the mountains in Majorca) and just rode up and down until I could ride no more. I forgot I had to get back to London though and really struggled on the way back hehe Leave a bit in the tank smile

yellowjack

18,443 posts

195 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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Hill repeats, you say? Near London, you say?

http://www.strava.com/activities/93725263 ...should sort you out. There's a ridge that runs from Guildford to Dorking, with any number of tasty climbs both up, and down both sides of the ridge. If you don't fancy riding all the way there, and back into London, the ride in that link starts and finishes at a free car park, with two cafes (I recommend 'The Barn' on the opposite side of the road from the car park) and toilets too. The ride itself is mainly on quiet roads, although the run down from (and back up to) Newlands Corner can be busy, and if it's a weekend, you can expect a lot of cars, motorcyles and cyclists on Box Hill. Generally the roads' surface quality ranges from 'fair' to 'feckin terrible' with a few smooth sections on the bigger 'A' roads.

(Please don't pay too much attention to my Av Speed on that ride, though wink )

Daveyraveygravey

2,112 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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I've done two types - 10 sets a mile each on the easy side of Steyning Bostal. I pushed myself hard on the 1st 3rd and 9th and took it easy on all the others.
Also done 3 sets of Ditchling a couple of times, going for it on the first time only.
I think it has benefitted the rest of my cycling but have also taken up running again so that may also help.
The 10 x was pretty dull - found it hard remembering what set I was on. It does give you a lot of data to look at on Strava after though!

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

235 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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Hill repeats should be done seated and in a harder gear than you would normally use!

mcelliott

10,496 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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yellowjack

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195 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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mcelliott said:

louiebaby

10,955 posts

220 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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z4chris99 said:
nor me, but i live in london and hills are hard to find.. its usually find hill, go up to top, turn round, repeat.
I used to go out to Crystal Palace, although Wimbledon is nicer:

http://www.strava.com/activities/27920401

Zoom in around the bit that looks hilly, each one might only be about 200 vertical feet, but at least tree are different routes so you're not constantly doing the same bit. For extra fun, take a back pack full of bottles of water.

RealSquirrels

11,327 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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you could always ride with a bigger front wheel so you are permanently having to go uphill.

TwistingMyMelon

6,510 posts

234 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Just jam the rear brake on, then ride in the hardest gear whilst staying seated, with the seat faaaar too low, whilst wearing a warehouse high viz with steel toecapped boots thats what lots of the locals do near me , I always presumed it was some hardcore training routine to emulate hill repeats

S6PNJ

5,837 posts

310 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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RealSquirrels said:
you could always ride with a bigger front wheel so you are permanently having to go uphill.
Eh?


Longers

Original Poster:

4,505 posts

257 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Luckily there isn't a shortage of good hills where I live (in Rutland) so headed out last night.

I thought it would be a better way to spend an hour of a nice evening rather than on the turbo at home but I was surprised how dull I found it! Maybe when I'm on the turbo I don't think about actually riding, I just focus on the cadence/time/whatever I'm using to measure myself. However when I was repeating the same hill I was (obviously!) on my bike and just wanted to ride somewhere, probably because I could...

Will try it again and see if I feel any differently and maybe get some mates along to add an element of competition to keep it interesting. I may end up sticking to turbo intervals and proper rides in future wink

louiebaby

10,955 posts

220 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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If you don't use it already, Strava keeps him training (relatively) interesting...

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

219 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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mcelliott said:
What is interesting about that is that it shows how inaccurate GPS is at measuring altitude without a barometric pressure gauge.