Why do cyclists ride on the road when there is a cycle lane
Why do cyclists ride on the road when there is a cycle lane
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cjb1

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180 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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On my way to work I frequently see cyclists using the road/gutter to cycle in when there is a cycle lane available to them. I cannot understand why they put their lives in jeopardy by cycling in busy peak time traffic when they could travel more safely on a path specifically provided for their safety? Am I missing something?

mdavids

740 posts

213 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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cjb1 said:
Am I missing something?
The forum search button?

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

251 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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cjb1 said:
Am I missing something?
A bridge to hide under? wink

Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Post a google streetview link to the road, i'm sure people will tell you.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Cycle lanes are frequently hazardous to cyclists in their own right. Poorly maintained, strewn with glass & used by kamikaze dogs & their owners.

My first & last post on this thread before it degenerates into the entirely predictable cyclist bashing fest that you can bet your mortgage on round here. laugh

I would only add that my own cycle commute is available with a very good path & yet on the days I drive, I often see cyclists using the road, so equally, you have to accept that some are thick/unaware/don't care.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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cjb1 said:
On my way to work I frequently see cyclists using the road/gutter to cycle in when there is a cycle lane available to them. I cannot understand why they put their lives in jeopardy by cycling in busy peak time traffic when they could travel more safely on a path specifically provided for their safety? Am I missing something?
Is the cycle lane well maintained?
Is the cycle lane clear of debris?
Does the cycle lane have priority over side road junctions or does it give way?
Is the cycle lane shared with pedestrians?

Safety has to be balanced with utility.

trashbat

6,307 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Because you have to give way all the time, unlike on the road.

Because pedestrians.

Because debris.

Because, above all else, riding on a typical road should not be 'putting your life in jeopardy'

rohrl

8,984 posts

174 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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There are several reasons. Here are a few off the top of my head.

Firstly cycle lanes are rarely as well contructed as a proper road which makes a big difference on a road bike with tyres inflated to 100-120PSI. You feel every tiny imperfection in the tarmac and some are so bumpy that it's impossible to keep up a decent pace. Secondly they're often strewn with gravel and broken glass which is less than ideal. Thirdly on mixed-use cycle/pedestrian tracks walkers will frequently stray onto the cycle track.

Spare tyre

12,559 posts

159 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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I'm not a cyclist but all the cycle lanes are round here are just painted areas full of holes, cracks and debris. It's annoying as a motorist but I understand 100% why they don't get used

cjb1

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Thursday 19th December 2013
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ewenm said:
cjb1 said:
On my way to work I frequently see cyclists using the road/gutter to cycle in when there is a cycle lane available to them. I cannot understand why they put their lives in jeopardy by cycling in busy peak time traffic when they could travel more safely on a path specifically provided for their safety? Am I missing something?
Is the cycle lane well maintained?
Is the cycle lane clear of debris?
Does the cycle lane have priority over side road junctions or does it give way?
Is the cycle lane shared with pedestrians?

Safety has to be balanced with utility.
Thanks to you and JustinCyder for your friendly and constructive answers, I was just wondering that's all. I didn't realize that these lanes were badly maintained but can see the point about dog mess and pedestrians.

That's my question answered, I'm not a cyclist but would appreciate posters not using this as an opportunity to bash them.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Spare tyre said:
I'm not a cyclist but all the cycle lanes are round here are just painted areas full of holes, cracks and debris. It's annoying as a motorist but I understand 100% why they don't get used
I love this site

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility...

Some paint does not make a cycle lane

MC Bodge

29,683 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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ewenm said:
Does the cycle lane have priority over side road junctions or does it give way?
This is one of the main reasons. They treat bikes as pedestrians on wheels rather than vehicles that typically travel at an average of 15-20mph.

Galileo

3,147 posts

247 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Because cyclists own the road. Didn't you get the memo?

MC Bodge

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204 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Galileo said:
Because cyclists own the road. Didn't you get the memo?
Let's close the thread now.

thatdude

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156 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Why do birds suddenly appear?

Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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thatdude said:
Why do birds suddenly appear?
You have crumbs in your beard.

madbadger

11,752 posts

273 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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MC Bodge said:
ewenm said:
Does the cycle lane have priority over side road junctions or does it give way?
This is one of the main reasons. They treat bikes as pedestrians on wheels rather than vehicles that typically travel at an average of 15-20mph.
This.

Particularly on a downhill having to stop at every side road is a massive pain. Imagine having to do it in a car?

Add to that most cars coming out of the sideroad will be aiming to stop at the end of the side road so will not be expecting you to cross 5 or so meters back from the end.

My one recent accident on my bike was when a driver panicked coming into view and slammed on the anchors stopping exactly over the cycle lane. I binned it avoiding smashing into the side of his car. Entirely my fault for not planning on stopping but I'll stick to the road now instead and have right of way.

thatdude

2,660 posts

156 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Some Gump said:
thatdude said:
Why do birds suddenly appear?
You have crumbs in your beard.

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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I love cycle lanes, they keep all the wobbly wkers out of my way as I race the cars on the road. Staying on the road also means I can smash more wing mirrors off and run red lights easier.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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cjb1 said:
On my way to work I frequently see cyclists using the road/gutter to cycle in when there is a cycle lane available to them. I cannot understand why they put their lives in jeopardy by cycling in busy peak time traffic when they could travel more safely on a path specifically provided for their safety? Am I missing something?
Near me there's a cycle lane which is basically a dual-use path, so shared with pedestrians. As others have said there's more lilely to be debris or people or other hazards on the path than on the road.

However, even when the cycle path is clear there is a disadvantage compared with the road, and that is "priority at junctions". I.e. when travelling along the cycle path which is adjacent to the main road, the cycle path has to "give way" each time it crosses over a side road. So a cyclist will have to stop if there's cars turning in or out of the side road, as a pedestrian would do.

Whereas if they ride on the road, then vehicles wanting to turn in or out of the side road have to give way to the bike which is on the main road. This can be advantageous in terms of conserving momentum. The ride is also smoother by not having to go up and down the "drop kerbs" each side of the side road they cross.

HTH with a genuine answer from a person who sometimes drives and sometimes cycles.