Boris goes electric !
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Bolebroke

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402 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/boris-bikes-...

I for one think this is just great ! Given what I do for a living I have yet to have anyone come up with a valid reason for NOT owning / using an e-bike...as part of your transport arsenal..from 747s to submarines to e-bikes there's a place for everything...especially commuting in London....

Laurel Green

31,130 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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Will be interesting to see the quality of an £700 E-bike.

longfellow

551 posts

172 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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That's awesome.

There's a huge amount of investment being poured into public cycle scenes all across the world. It's pretty good to see but I wonder how long this trend will last?

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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longfellow said:
There's a huge amount of investment being poured into public cycle scenes all across the world. It's pretty good to see but I wonder how long this trend will last?
It isn't investment, that is complete and utter lefty spin. It is money spent, and not particularly wisely - the bikes are very expensive and the schemes have huge overheads. I still remember laughing at the trials in various 'right-on' cities as they discovered the all too predictable issues one by one. And solved them by throwing our money at them.

And I say that as a Londoner and member of the scheme.

Bolebroke

Original Poster:

402 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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Finally the UK is getting it..the 7th largest market in EUROPE for e-bikes ! Just chatting to another dealer..wondering if this means there will be more or less e-bikes sold in London now...I think it will encourage people to realise how life-enhancing these machines are...for all abilities, allowing everyone (above the age of 14!) to get involved in cycling...

contractor

922 posts

214 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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Evening Standard said:
Electric bikes are like normal cycles except for a small, battery-powered motor to aid pedalling. No licence, equipment or insurance is needed for one.
So it's a bike with a motor and is classed as a motor cycle under the 1988 RTA

RTA 1988/52/185 said:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/sectio...
“motor cycle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle, not being an invalid carriage, with less than four wheels and the weight of which unladen does not exceed 410 kilograms,
Which you need a licence for...
https://www.gov.uk/driving-licence-categories

Eddh

4,656 posts

221 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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contractor said:
Evening Standard said:
Electric bikes are like normal cycles except for a small, battery-powered motor to aid pedalling. No licence, equipment or insurance is needed for one.
So it's a bike with a motor and is classed as a motor cycle under the 1988 RTA

RTA 1988/52/185 said:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/sectio...
“motor cycle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle, not being an invalid carriage, with less than four wheels and the weight of which unladen does not exceed 410 kilograms,
Which you need a licence for...
https://www.gov.uk/driving-licence-categories
Incorrect, if they go under a certain speed (14 or 16mph I think) then you are ok.

Laurel Green

31,130 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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I believe no licence is required as long as the cycle is restricted to 15 MPH or less.

ETA: Didn't see your post Eddh.

longfellow

551 posts

172 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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grumbledoak said:
It isn't investment, that is complete and utter lefty spin. It is money spent, and not particularly wisely - the bikes are very expensive and the schemes have huge overheads. I still remember laughing at the trials in various 'right-on' cities as they discovered the all too predictable issues one by one. And solved them by throwing our money at them.

And I say that as a Londoner and member of the scheme.
Firstly, may I offer you a pill of the chill variety?

Secondly, can you explain to me why it's not classed as an investment please? Bearing in mind an investment may go up or down depending on a variety of variables.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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longfellow said:
Firstly, may I offer you a pill of the chill variety?
No need. Help yourself to a dictionary.

Laurel Green

31,130 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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Go on lads, you know you want to...


contractor

922 posts

214 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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Eddh said:
Incorrect, if they go under a certain speed (14 or 16mph I think) then you are ok.
ahh, OK. Thanks!

Bolebroke

Original Poster:

402 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th October 2013
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15.6mph to be pedantic. There are of course various retailers who will sell you continental "speed pedelecs" where we can get you up to 45kmh....most of the industry frown on this..if you want to travel at 28mph then buy a scooter / moped whatever...and wear a helmet, pay RfL, insurance etc...oh and ride them only on the public highway. For those who doubt e-bikes and assume they are for grannies it really is time to get on one (an e-bike, not a granny)

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

256 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Laurel Green said:
Go on lads, you know you want to...

They've definitely improved Cancellara's integrated motor for 2014 Paris-Roubaix. You'd never know it was there.

longfellow

551 posts

172 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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grumbledoak said:
No need. Help yourself to a dictionary.
Why thank you.

What shall I do with this dictionary now that I have it?

Magic919

14,505 posts

230 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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E bike retailer says E bikes are great. Not a shocker.

TwistingMyMelon

6,514 posts

234 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Handy for older people to "rediscover" or get into cycling, giving them the confidence, or people with injuries, but otherwise not my cup of tea..

Saw an electric moped the other day, that was odd

oyster

13,738 posts

277 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Bolebroke said:
15.6mph to be pedantic. There are of course various retailers who will sell you continental "speed pedelecs" where we can get you up to 45kmh....most of the industry frown on this..if you want to travel at 28mph then buy a scooter / moped whatever...and wear a helmet, pay RfL, insurance etc...oh and ride them only on the public highway. For those who doubt e-bikes and assume they are for grannies it really is time to get on one (an e-bike, not a granny)
Why do I need an e-bike when I was born with these fantastic devices called legs, complete with flexible joints, muscles and tendons that all work in harmony. Fueled by food that I already have to consume.

Shame on Boris for these - journeys on Boris bikes in London are so short anyway.

Birdthom

790 posts

254 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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I don't get e-bikes. Sure they save you some effort, but isn't that the point of getting on a bike? Not sure I can see much difference between an e-bike and a mobility scooter.

Laurel Green

31,130 posts

261 months

Friday 25th October 2013
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Birdthom said:
I don't get e-bikes. Sure they save you some effort, but isn't that the point of getting on a bike? Not sure I can see much difference between an e-bike and a mobility scooter.
With an E-bike one does not have to use the motor - it's there if needed but, can be used as an 'ordinary' bike. In fact, it is a better workout as one is pushing on with added weight.