Bianchi - another what bike thread
Bianchi - another what bike thread
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drinks

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120 posts

264 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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Mrs. Drinks has decided she want to start cycling and hence needs a road bike. After trawling the web and narrowing down her potential candidates she has concluded she wants a Bianchi ideally in green with white text rolleyes. As far as I can tell this is purely based upon aesthetics. Budget is ~1K may be subject to budget creep as I want a shiny, shiny new bike next year.

I'm no expert having been cycling for 18 months on and off using my 2012 Giant Defy 1 which was top of the reviews for a 1k bike last year.

Is a Bianchi more about paying for a name at this price point and which model/spec should I be pointing her towards. Quite happy to direct her towards other brands even if just for comparison purposes.

http://www.epic-cycles.co.uk/Bianchi_Via_Nirone_7....

Seems to be the most sensible starting point. Not sure if I linked to the dama version or not actually and that leads me on to the next question. Are female specific bikes substantially different to male specific?

CoolC

4,500 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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It's the exact same bike I keep getting drawn to on the Evan site whilst looking for my Ride2Work purchase.

I think there is a bit of paying for the brand, but not a huge amount as spec wise they are very similar to others in the price range.

Also Bianchi's always just look that little bit nicer, and I have a soft spot for them as I had one as a teenager.

Jimbo.

4,224 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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drinks said:
Mrs. Drinks has decided she want to start cycling and hence needs a road bike. After trawling the web and narrowing down her potential candidates she has concluded she wants a Bianchi ideally in green with white text rolleyes. As far as I can tell this is purely based upon aesthetics. Budget is ~1K may be subject to budget creep as I want a shiny, shiny new bike next year.

I'm no expert having been cycling for 18 months on and off using my 2012 Giant Defy 1 which was top of the reviews for a 1k bike last year.

Is a Bianchi more about paying for a name at this price point and which model/spec should I be pointing her towards. Quite happy to direct her towards other brands even if just for comparison purposes.

http://www.epic-cycles.co.uk/Bianchi_Via_Nirone_7....

Seems to be the most sensible starting point. Not sure if I linked to the dama version or not actually and that leads me on to the next question. Are female specific bikes substantially different to male specific?
You're paying for the name to some extent (although the same could be said of many brands), esp. at the lower end of the price spectrum. Their top-end bike (Oltre) is beyond beautiful. Still, nice bikes nonetheless smile

If done right, female specific bikes do differ quite a bit. Some brands give it a pink saddle and call it "womens specific", whereas others go the trouble of using completely different geometries, different handlebar/grip thicknesses etc, etc. Specialized are probably the brand that pay the most attention to such things

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

239 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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Buy a Boardman Fi.

Dizeee incoming in 3... 2...

drinks

Original Poster:

120 posts

264 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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Gizmoish said:
Buy a Boardman Fi.

Dizeee incoming in 3... 2...
Her sister has a Boardman Fi with 105 that she bought last year for just under £1000 which is what has prompted her need to start cycling. This seems like a really good piece of kit, very well specced but unavailable this year. The Fi Comp was apparently available earlier this month for £430, we would have snapped it up at that price but for £800 she would rather spend the extra for the "pretty Bianchi"
Having said that she hasn't been and looked in Halfords, so it's worth going to see it in the metal.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

239 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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I always end up saying this on noob threads...

Check the bottom gear - smallest chainring, largest sprocket. Lots of "starter" bikes come with fairly high bottom gears - which is fine on the flat but means the rider will be walking up quite a few hills to begin with. I maintain it's the single biggest reason why people give up on the sport: it's hard to begin with. Look for something with a compact chainset giving 34x28, maybe even 34x30... Believe the Bianchis come with 34x25.

Sounds wimpy, but you wouldn't put the gears from a Ferrari in a Fiesta: because there isn't the power to turn them around. Same applies...

AMG01

421 posts

172 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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drinks said:
Mrs. Drinks has decided she want to start cycling and hence needs a road bike. After trawling the web and narrowing down her potential candidates she has concluded she wants a Bianchi ideally in green with white text rolleyes. As far as I can tell this is purely based upon aesthetics. Budget is ~1K may be subject to budget creep as I want a shiny, shiny new bike next year.

I'm no expert having been cycling for 18 months on and off using my 2012 Giant Defy 1 which was top of the reviews for a 1k bike last year.

Is a Bianchi more about paying for a name at this price point and which model/spec should I be pointing her towards. Quite happy to direct her towards other brands even if just for comparison purposes.

http://www.epic-cycles.co.uk/Bianchi_Via_Nirone_7....

Seems to be the most sensible starting point. Not sure if I linked to the dama version or not actually and that leads me on to the next question. Are female specific bikes substantially different to male specific?
Have pretty much the same bike, but all green and bought second hand from a mate a few months ago as my first road bike and bike since I was a kid, its 3/4 years old and so far loving it. Does look good, but I am slightly bias

Mr Will

13,719 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Gizmoish said:
I always end up saying this on noob threads...

Check the bottom gear - smallest chainring, largest sprocket. Lots of "starter" bikes come with fairly high bottom gears - which is fine on the flat but means the rider will be walking up quite a few hills to begin with. I maintain it's the single biggest reason why people give up on the sport: it's hard to begin with. Look for something with a compact chainset giving 34x28, maybe even 34x30... Believe the Bianchis come with 34x25.

Sounds wimpy, but you wouldn't put the gears from a Ferrari in a Fiesta: because there isn't the power to turn them around. Same applies...
For the sake of the £15 and 5 minutes it takes to change a cassette I wouldn't base my buying decision on it.

OP - Buy the Bianchi. It might not be the best bike but it will be the bike that she enjoys the most.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Mr Will said:
For the sake of the £15 and 5 minutes it takes to change a cassette I wouldn't base my buying decision on it.

OP - Buy the Bianchi. It might not be the best bike but it will be the bike that she enjoys the most.
Fair point, but you have to know to change it. Otherwise noobs just assume that "20 speeds" are all the same.

yellowjack

18,461 posts

196 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Gizmoish said:
Mr Will said:
For the sake of the £15 and 5 minutes it takes to change a cassette I wouldn't base my buying decision on it.

OP - Buy the Bianchi. It might not be the best bike but it will be the bike that she enjoys the most.
Fair point, but you have to know to change it. Otherwise noobs just assume that "20 speeds" are all the same.
If the bike on the shop floor is brand new and unridden, I can't think of any good reason why a decent retailer wouldn't be happy to swap a cassette over for nowt, especially as it could clinch a sale and give the customer a huge confidence boost in the shop's customer service ethic.

Good point that a novice probably wouldn't know to ask, though, and would end up without that lower gear, frustrated by steeper hills. If you swap out for a cassette with more teeth on the biggest cog, then later find you don't need the lowest gears to bail you out on the hills, cassettes are 'wear and tear' items anyway - when you wear it out, swap it for one with the original ratios.

nick s

1,372 posts

247 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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I have a Bianchi Sempre, in white with celeste green detailing and celeste green bar tape. I literally love looking at it every time I go to get it out for a ride. Awesome bike! Rides so smoothly aswell. I'd definitely recommend Bianchi.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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My first proper road bike was a Bianchi. Bloody loved it for the few months I had it before some scrote nicked it. It's the colour. Put it this way, it may be not quite as a good as another bike in the same price bracket, but cycling is ALL about the motivation to ride, and if it makes you smile when you open the garage door, that counts for a lot!


TheFungle

4,253 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Mr Will said:
Gizmoish said:
I always end up saying this on noob threads...

Check the bottom gear - smallest chainring, largest sprocket. Lots of "starter" bikes come with fairly high bottom gears - which is fine on the flat but means the rider will be walking up quite a few hills to begin with. I maintain it's the single biggest reason why people give up on the sport: it's hard to begin with. Look for something with a compact chainset giving 34x28, maybe even 34x30... Believe the Bianchis come with 34x25.

Sounds wimpy, but you wouldn't put the gears from a Ferrari in a Fiesta: because there isn't the power to turn them around. Same applies...
For the sake of the £15 and 5 minutes it takes to change a cassette I wouldn't base my buying decision on it.

OP - Buy the Bianchi. It might not be the best bike but it will be the bike that she enjoys the most.
My wife was in a similar situation, she bought a Wilier Montegrappa which she loved the look of rather than the more 'practical' Specilized at the same price, ultimately that has encouraged her to ride it more which is what it's all about.

It came with a 12-28 on the rear, not quite as wide a range as her previous triple but enough to get her up most rolling hills.

Simond S

4,519 posts

307 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Have a look at the Kuota Lite.

A friend has bought one and they built it with friendly gears, short crank, narrow bars etc..

Cost was under a grand for a 105 equipped bike.

drinks

Original Poster:

120 posts

264 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone. There seems a general positive vibe towards the Bianchi, so that is good. I think those of you that mentioned about, "if she likes it then she is more likely to ride it" have hit the nail on the head. At least for the first few weeks until the novelty wears off.

The cassette issue is a good point too but certainly not a deal breaker I'm quite capable of changing a cassette if needed.

Options at the bike shop we are visiting on Saturday, appear to be the Sora equipped bike at £810 which is a 9 speed cassette or a Xenon mix though they can order in the Tiagra equipped bike for us.
I would rather get the Tiagra or the Campag in theory, as they are 10 speed. However I know absolutely nothing about Campag group sets, are xenon and veloce good or bad?

Unisex campag:- http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Bianchi-C2C-Via-Nirone-7-A...

Female tiagra:- http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Bianchi-C2C-Via-Nirone-Dam...

Or is the 2014 batch due so imminently that it's worth waiting, I think this may be a non-starter as she wants to ride now not in 4-6 weeks.

E38Ross

36,729 posts

242 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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you'll get some saying you pay for the name and aesthetics but......they do look good. I've got one of these (admittedly was over £1k!) but i saw it and just had to have it. i don't care i could have got slightly better for the money.


rhinochopig

17,932 posts

228 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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drinks said:
Thanks for all the feedback everyone. There seems a general positive vibe towards the Bianchi, so that is good. I think those of you that mentioned about, "if she likes it then she is more likely to ride it" have hit the nail on the head. At least for the first few weeks until the novelty wears off.

The cassette issue is a good point too but certainly not a deal breaker I'm quite capable of changing a cassette if needed.

Options at the bike shop we are visiting on Saturday, appear to be the Sora equipped bike at £810 which is a 9 speed cassette or a Xenon mix though they can order in the Tiagra equipped bike for us.
I would rather get the Tiagra or the Campag in theory, as they are 10 speed. However I know absolutely nothing about Campag group sets, are xenon and veloce good or bad?

Unisex campag:- http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Bianchi-C2C-Via-Nirone-7-A...

Female tiagra:- http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Bianchi-C2C-Via-Nirone-Dam...

Or is the 2014 batch due so imminently that it's worth waiting, I think this may be a non-starter as she wants to ride now not in 4-6 weeks.
I have veloce on my bike. No idea on weight comparisons but I've become a campag convert after a lifetime of Shimano as it has some lovely little elegant design touches that Shimano doesn't. It's certainly as good as the similar priced groupset from Shimano or SRAM.

caul pope

250 posts

198 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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I've got a Bianchi alu/carbon C2C with Veloce. I Love it!
The gears have been great (I didn't like the power of the brakes so I swopped them), the bike always gets compliments and having a ride you really enjoy/love is definitely a motivator!

TwistingMyMelon

6,514 posts

235 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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E38Ross said:
you'll get some saying you pay for the name and aesthetics but......they do look good. I've got one of these (admittedly was over £1k!) but i saw it and just had to have it. i don't care i could have got slightly better for the money.

Thats a nice bike, similar in spec and geo to my Wilier


Agoogy

7,274 posts

278 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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I got the men's Via Nerone Tiagra in 2012, red with white graphics, I get caught up in spec as much as the next man (that and the weight of the bike) but when push came to paying, I couldn't buy a bike I didn't like looking at...and it DOES motivate you to get on it if you enjoy staring at it.
All I know above that is, that depsite being 'pretty' the wheels are too heavy and one day I'll sort that, but for now, the Tiagra has performed faultlessly and I'm still smitten with it despite it being at the less expensive end of the scale.

Female geometry wise I'm less convinced, the whole "men's bodies are different from women's bodies proportionally" thing, is all well and good, but men's bodies differ wildly from bloke to bloke as does a woman's and from what I read/see a smaller men's bike can easily be specced to fit a lass...shorter stem/crank, wider saddle, narrower bars...