Bargain Scotts - MAMILs only

[rhinochopig]

My LBS has just secured a very large number of Scott top end carbon road frames - Addict Ltds and another which name escapes me. They're selling off the frames, forks, headsets and seat clamps (they're an integrated post) for the bargain price of £499. Theyre a £7.5k bike new and are well below the UCI minium weight - in the smaller sizes the frame and forks are ~ 1kg IIRC.

Not sure how many left they have now and they are struggling to update the website so it's worth ringing directly.

I have no affiliation to them, but given the large roadie contingent on here and knowing how everyone likes a bargain, I thought I'd let you all know.

The shop is westbrook in stokesly.

I'll post up some pics of my Addict Ltd when I pick it up end of this week.

[anonymous-user]

This was mentioned last week, they are 2012 CR1s

They look stunning but I cant afford the frame at the moment never mind the rest of the build!...

Well worth the call if anyone is interested for stock updates.

[BigBen]

When you say worth a call are they getting more in stock / finding some they did not know about ?

I am trying not to buy one in the largest size but luckily for my bank balance they are out of stock.

[Gizmoish]

The CR1 is a discontinued line but that's still great value.

[rhinochopig]

BigBen said:

When you say worth a call are they getting more in stock / finding some they did not know about ?

I am trying not to buy one in the largest size but luckily for my bank balance they are out of stock.

That's what I bought xxl. They had three left eo last week. As I said, their website didn't reflect their stock. They bought a lot of them. Worth calling to check.

[BigBen]

rhinochopig said:

BigBen said:

When you say worth a call are they getting more in stock / finding some they did not know about ?

I am trying not to buy one in the largest size but luckily for my bank balance they are out of stock.

That's what I bought xxl. They had three left eo last week. As I said, their website didn't reflect their stock. They bought a lot of them. Worth calling to check.

You are not helping. Will give them a call in the morning.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Bit new to road bikes but thinking of dipping my toe in the water, out of interest approximately what would it cost to build this frame up to a half decent spec? Would a competent LBS take on such a project?

[anonymous-user]

ParanoidAndroid said:

Bit new to road bikes but thinking of dipping my toe in the water, out of interest approximately what would it cost to build this frame up to a half decent spec? Would a competent LBS take on such a project?

LBS will charge RRP on most components so you are better off getting them from online retailers like wiggle and ribble then letting them build it.

You could build a very well spec'd bike with another £1500 or so.

Groupset - Sram Force/Ultegra would be about £600

Wheels - Shimano RS80 C24 are about £350

Zipp service course bars and stem = £150

Saddle - Whatever you fancy but budger £100 for Prologo or Fizik

Tyres, tubes, rim tape, bar tape - Conti GP4000s plus the rest for under £100

Pedals - 105 SPD-SLs are £30

LBS shouldnt charge more than £150 even if you give it all to them in boxes

So £1500 near enough, £2k total for a bike that would set you back at close to £3k if yuo bought it off the shelf.

To do it for £1000, Swop the wheels for Fulcrum 7s and the groupset for 105 and you would probably save £400, go for Deda contact points not Zipp and you could save another £100 but it wouldnt really be doing the frame justice!

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 11th June 11:23

[BigBen]

thankfully for my finances they had sold out by this afternoon

[ParanoidAndroid]

pablo said:

LBS will charge RRP on most components so you are better off getting them from online retailers like wiggle and ribble then letting them build it.

You could build a very well spec'd bike with another £1500 or so.

Groupset - Sram Force/Ultegra would be about £600

Wheels - Shimano RS80 C24 are about £350

Zipp service course bars and stem = £150

Saddle - Whatever you fancy but budger £100 for Prologo or Fizik

Tyres, tubes, rim tape, bar tape - Conti GP4000s plus the rest for under £100

Pedals - 105 SPD-SLs are £30

LBS shouldnt charge more than £150 even if you give it all to them in boxes

So £1500 near enough, £2k total for a bike that would set you back at close to £3k if yuo bought it off the shelf.

To do it for £1000, Swop the wheels for Fulcrum 7s and the groupset for 105 and you would probably save £400, go for Deda contact points not Zipp and you could save another £100 but it wouldnt really be doing the frame justice!

Edited by pablo on Tuesday 11th June 11:23

Thanks, very useful and much appreciated.

[WarrenG]

Why do I always see these things after the sell out ffs?

I've been slowly building up NOS of Campy Veloce on my road frame and intend to migrate it all to a better frame - this could have been a handy way to do it. Feck.

[rhinochopig]

Right chaps...I picked up my Ltd yesterday which is now built and just off out for a shakedown ride - how nerve racking is it cutting an integrated seatpost. Taking off half inch slivers is bloody time-consuming

But before I go I thought I'd update you all: the owner mentioned that they have had some more CR1s delivered this week (£499) and have all sizes at the moment. They're selling quick so if you want to pick one up I'd call today.


ETA FFS that was a quick ride. Got half a mile and the tyre popped off the rim. Dropped the pressure to re-seat the tyre and then the pump fell to bits during re-inflation. Seem jinked this week with bikes.

Edited by rhinochopig on Friday 14th June 13:36

[andySC]

The guys at Westbrook are top notch & £499 for a CR1 frame is a steal. I've had an Addict R1 & a Foil from them in the past. The Foils with the Ultegra electronic at £2.5k are an absolute bargain...

[yellowjack]

andySC said:

The guys at Westbrook are top notch & £499 for a CR1 frame is a steal. I've had an Addict R1 & a Foil from them in the past. The Foils with the Ultegra electronic at £2.5k are an absolute bargain...

Only a TRUE believer could say that £2,500 is an 'absolute bargain' and keep a straight face. I just ran that idea past the finance dept, when she got home from work. All she gave me was her best 'Paddington Bear stare'. At least it wasn't a straight "NO"

[rhinochopig]

Well I've now done my first ride and surprisingly despite being 6'5" I think I could have got away with an XL (58). I have to have the layback back to front, otherwise there is too much stretch - surprisingly they're a very long frame. That said it helps when climbing as my knees have plenty of room.

So my thoughts on the frame? This is my first decent road frame, the previous one being a brand-x jobbie that cost me the grand total of £150 for frame and forks so it was always going to be an improvement. Beyond the obvious weight saving, the biggest improvement is in comfort. I don't really like carbon frames as they feel too plasticky but I have to say I'm hugely impressed by how comfortable they are in terms of reducing road buzz. And the stiffness when out of the seat climbing - despite me being a smidge under 17 stone - is hugely impressive, and this translates to much more confidence when descending. Oddly I don't notice the weight advantage when sat down climbing, but get out of the saddle and it seems to fly.

So, well worth the 500 quid, but I have to say anyone who spends 2-3k on a carbon road frame for anything other than high level racing is utterly crackers as it really does only offer marginal benefits IMO. Oh and one final thing, if you're a heavy lump, the concept of the integrated seatpost is genius. No more slippage

[Benmac]

rhinochopig said:

Well I've now done my first ride and surprisingly despite being 6'5" I think I could have got away with an XL (58). I have to have the layback back to front, otherwise there is too much stretch - surprisingly they're a very long frame. That said it helps when climbing as my knees have plenty of room.

So my thoughts on the frame? This is my first decent road frame, the previous one being a brand-x jobbie that cost me the grand total of £150 for frame and forks so it was always going to be an improvement. Beyond the obvious weight saving, the biggest improvement is in comfort. I don't really like carbon frames as they feel too plasticky but I have to say I'm hugely impressed by how comfortable they are in terms of reducing road buzz. And the stiffness when out of the seat climbing - despite me being a smidge under 17 stone - is hugely impressive, and this translates to much more confidence when descending. Oddly I don't notice the weight advantage when sat down climbing, but get out of the saddle and it seems to fly.

So, well worth the 500 quid, but I have to say anyone who spends 2-3k on a carbon road frame for anything other than high level racing is utterly crackers as it really does only offer marginal benefits IMO. Oh and one final thing, if you're a heavy lump, the concept of the integrated seatpost is genius. No more slippage

Yes, just don't go your usual route of snapping the seat post; otherwise you're stuffed. Ta for the phone message btw; I've decided to leave it as despite the screaming bargain the geometry of the CR1 isn't really what I'm after so I think I'd always be a touch frustrated. Shame they didn't find enough Foils to get to that price on those.

[Lanby]

mmmmm these look nice

Edited by Lanby on Monday 17th June 00:04

[Janosh]

Here she is:



Fantastic frame & the wife is very happy. Does exactly what it says on the tin: light, responsive and comfortable. Not least of which a bargain at £500 considering it comes complete with headset, BB, etc.

Having a 5'2 wife does have some plus sides (FYI - this is an XXS frame)

[duff]

rhinochopig said:

the stiffness when out of the seat climbing - despite me being a smidge under 17 stone - is hugely impressive, and this translates to much more confidence when descending. Oddly I don't notice the weight advantage when sat down climbing, but get out of the saddle and it seems to fly.

That's interesting, I'd been looking into these a few weeks back but there was talk of a lack of stiffness in a couple of reviews I read. Being 6'4 and 15 stone I want a stiff bike - I've gone back to my aluminium bike as my cheap Chinese carbon frame flexes too much. I run the brakes very close to the rim and hated them rubbing when out of the saddle on my old bike, something that doesn't happen on my aluminium frame but I do miss the cushioned feel of carbon. For £500 I'm tempted, nearly half what I was going to pay for a Canyon CF frame!

[Jayfish]

All the bigger sizes seem to have made it to ebay with a £180 mark-up :/ still tempted though.