Road tyre suggestions
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mr2haz

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88 posts

194 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Right people, time for new tyres for my Trek Medone 4.5. Looking to have a new set fitted in time for a 75 mile cycle on Sunday but what should I hand over my hard earned cash for?

okgo

42,138 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Depends what you want really. Good all rounder is the gp4000s. If on a budget then folding Vittoria Rubino Pro's are good.

Birdthom

790 posts

254 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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okgo said:
Depends what you want really. Good all rounder is the gp4000s. If on a budget then folding Vittoria Rubino Pro's are good.
I have both of those, the GP4000s roll and grip a bit better, but the rubinos are decent for the money. I use the GP in 23c for summer and rubino in 25c for winter, which seems to work well.

mr2haz

Original Poster:

88 posts

194 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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What are the GP4000s like for puncture protection?

Jimbo.

4,221 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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mr2haz said:
What are the GP4000s like for puncture protection?
They're not too bad IME, only puncturing when I let them wear down quite a bit. Just remember they're a reasonably lightweight race tyres so will never be massively durable.

Edited by Jimbo. on Wednesday 24th April 22:27

Jimbo.

4,221 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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anonymous said:
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The GP4000S' are Continentals. Overall they (as in Contis, not just the GP4000S') are good, although you'll hear good and bad about every tyre.

"Grand Prix" extends to a range of Conti tyres: the 4000, the 4000S, the GT etc, etc. None are bad, although the 4000 is the oldest of the lot. The 4000S is the sticky, lightweight race tyre, and the (new) GT a supposedly very good all-rounder/training tyre.

You don't *need* to upgrade the tyres smile

castex

5,171 posts

302 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Michelin make the best road tyres in my experience. Smooth and fast.

MadDad

3,836 posts

290 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Tyres are almost as personal a choice as saddles!

I have tried Conti's and never really got on with them, I found the sidewalls weak and the grip nothing more than 'OK'.

I have settled on Vredestein Fortezza Quattro Tricomp's as my winter tyres, they roll well, have a decent level of puncture resistance and grip very well in the wet, and Vredestein Fortezza TriComp Slick's for my summer tyres - softer compound that the Quattro's but very comfy ride and extremely grippy.

I know a couple of people who ride with Vittoria Open Pave EVO's and swear by them, apparently they are dangerously confidence inspiring!

I think that weight, riding style etc has a lot to do with the right sort of tyre for each individual rider. I have a friend who is a bit heavier that me and swears by Conti's, but could never get on with Pro 3's - which I love!

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

235 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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What do people think of Schwalbe Ultremos?

Jimbo.

4,221 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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MadDad said:
Tyres are almost as personal a choice as saddles!

I have tried Conti's and never really got on with them, I found the sidewalls weak and the grip nothing more than 'OK'.

I have settled on Vredestein Fortezza Quattro Tricomp's as my winter tyres, they roll well, have a decent level of puncture resistance and grip very well in the wet, and Vredestein Fortezza TriComp Slick's for my summer tyres - softer compound that the Quattro's but very comfy ride and extremely grippy.

I know a couple of people who ride with Vittoria Open Pave EVO's and swear by them, apparently they are dangerously confidence inspiring!

I think that weight, riding style etc has a lot to do with the right sort of tyre for each individual rider. I have a friend who is a bit heavier that me and swears by Conti's, but could never get on with Pro 3's - which I love!
As your posts - and my experience - suggests, tyres are indeed a personal thing. I had some Vredestein Fortezza Tricomps for winter. After only a couple of rides, free from potholes etc, the sidewall split. Contis however I've only ever split by being careless (pothole or kerbs). That aside, the GP4000S is probably my fave!

I would rather ride on my rims than Schwalbe! Dire quality and/or QC.

Vittorias are lovely. I have the Open Paves (used 'em for Flanders). The grip, confidence and durability over the cobbles was something else. 85psi, bangbangbang...not a slip nor puncture. Rather expensive, mind!

Jimbo.

4,221 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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The only "ground scraping" you get is from inside pedal down, in which case you've your own riding to worry about, rather than the tyres. Inside up, apart from anything off-camber.

And you'll be surprised what difference a tyre can make. As above, I used the aforementioned Vittoria at Flanders, over the cobbles. A common-or-garden 23mm cheapo tyre would (i saw hundreds that did!) puncture and/or slip at the first sign of granite blocks smile

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

235 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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anonymous said:
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I think the Ultremos are higher up the range than the Duranos!

Jimbo.

4,221 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Grandfondo said:
I think the Ultremos are higher up the range than the Duranos!
Ahh yes, Ultremos. Failing sidewalls, anyone? Delamination? Unthreading? biggrin

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

235 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Jimbo. said:
Grandfondo said:
I think the Ultremos are higher up the range than the Duranos!
Ahh yes, Ultremos. Failing sidewalls, anyone? Delamination? Unthreading? biggrin
Did that happen to your Ultremos?

okgo

42,138 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Grandfondo said:
What do people think of Schwalbe Ultremos?
Properly ste.

Sidewalls made of paper. I've had two total blowouts on them.

mr2haz

Original Poster:

88 posts

194 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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I currently have ultremo r1 fitted. The front tyre has several splits which let stones in,damaging the inner tube. I wouldn't say they had a lot of use either.

okgo

42,138 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Jimbo. said:
Ahh yes, Ultremos. Failing sidewalls, anyone? Delamination? Unthreading? biggrin
Yes all of this happened on the 4 I have had. Never again.

Jimbo.

4,221 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Grandfondo said:
Did that happen to your Ultremos?
My Ultermo DDs, yes. The sidewalls delaminated throughout AND started unthreading themselves around the bead despite relatively low miles at the time. On both of them. Utterly awful things. Since fixiett-skidded to retirement.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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castex said:
Michelin make the best road tyres in my experience. Smooth and fast.
Pro3 Race are £40 per pair now the Pro4 is out. They faster and smoother than GP4000s imho... no punctures yet either.

richardxjr

7,561 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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pablo said:
Pro3 Race are £40 per pair now the Pro4 is out. They faster and smoother than GP4000s imho... no punctures yet either.
Agree on that. My wheels came with Pro Race 3 Service Course, after a few rides I took them off to save them for the Alpes, refitted GP4000s in the meantime.

Make sure you put 'em on the right way round too! Not on the roadie, but found out both tyres were wrong way round on my (s/hand) mtb, also on a co-rider's very expensive full suss carbon mtb last night, same tyres wrong way round.