2 crashes now in as many rides.
2 crashes now in as many rides.
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Chicken Chaser

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9,062 posts

253 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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2 years of trouble free riding, absolutely no problems at all in winter or summer (not even the dreaded P word) and in 2 rides ive crashed twice, once on a left hand bend and once on a right hand bend. Its cost me over £300 in clothing and a load of grazes both sides to my body.

Ive had my winter bike since Jan, and ran Gatorskins on it. About 80 psi pressure and been fine for over 200 miles on them. Ive taken a week off the bike after the last accident and less than a mile into the first ride back ive binned it again. Apart from the levers looking prettty second hand the bike is fine but ive shredded 2 pairs of shorts 1 pair of tights, jersey, 2 pairs of overshoes and damaged the clips on my shoes. Getting fed up now and I think this one will knock my confidence in cornering. Im not happy with the way in which these Gatorskins seem to have just lost all front end grip on both accidents.


Ended up with worse grazes with this one too.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

275 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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It took a crash back in the Autumn to wake me up to just how old my summer tyres were - and the equally old Gatorskins on my winter rims have nearly dropped me a couple of times since. I fitted new GP 4 Seasons before last weekend's ride and they feel fantastic by comparison.

tigger1

8,468 posts

250 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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First off - at least you're ok - kit/bike is expensive, but replaceable.

I found the roads very slippy this morning - and that's on a MTB (with slick 1.7" tyres on). Bit slidy at the back end a few times.

Confidence-wise, it happens to us all, get back on, begin with slow upright cornering, and work up from there. I'm very careful in the bends on my road bike.


ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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I did 2 crashes in 2 rides a couple of weeks ago too. Confidence in low temps is now equally low hehe

MadDad

3,836 posts

290 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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First off, good to hear that you are OK, and now have a good excuse to buy more kit!

The slight rise in temperature coupled with the damp air has made the roads slippery as hell over the past few days, I have had a couple of 'whoops apocalypse' moments but thankfully kept upright, but I have tempered my cornering accordingly.

Roll on the summer.

otolith

68,836 posts

233 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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I haven't the faintest idea what my new road bike is capable of, and don't want to find out by binning it. Ergo, being a right pussy.

Chicken Chaser

Original Poster:

9,062 posts

253 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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First accident - 18mph, this one 20mph. Both occasions front end just washed out on me. Slower speed may help but i'm training. I think i'll get rid of the Gatorskin on the front and look for something else. The back is fine, I can handle the rear breaking free (it never has) but I dont like the way in which the front end just disappears beneath me.

On the bright side, both times could have been a collarbone so to come away with a bloodied elbow and a couple of grazed and bruised hips I've done ok. Still gutted that its costing me a fortune to replace stuff which was just training kit.

Edited by Chicken Chaser on Wednesday 27th February 11:18

AyBee

11,324 posts

231 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Is your technique decent (no idea how long you've been riding) and what condition were the roads in? You need to put weight over the front wheel if you're cornering quickly to put weight into the tyre, if you're too far back, it won't grip.

Chicken Chaser

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9,062 posts

253 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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I've been riding motorbikes last 10 years, have ridden road bikes last 2 and done a few thousand miles of pretty damp/wet stuff during that time. Generally try to be 50/50 when it comes to cornering, foot weighting the outside pedal and ensuring no braking going on whilst in the corner. I'm not sure whats happened but i'll be pressing the reset button next time i'm out and taking it easy. The one last week I could say was because I was going too quick and it was wet, but this week it was damp and it was a wider radius turn with a positive camber. Its right near my house so i've done it hundreds of times without incident. Totally bizarre.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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I saw a couple people go down around the Camden area, on what looked like Gatorskins. I also put them on for winter, and while I didn’t crash, I've just put on some Halos that have infinitely more grip.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

256 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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AyBee said:
Is your technique decent (no idea how long you've been riding) and what condition were the roads in? You need to put weight over the front wheel if you're cornering quickly to put weight into the tyre, if you're too far back, it won't grip.
I think this is a fair question. I have only once lost the front end on a road bike and that was a bit of black ice - ironically as I turned into my street! The back end by contrast is often sliding around the place, but mostly they are savable. Once the front goes it's normally game over on a road bike.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
Once the front goes it's normally game over on a road bike.
yes My two crashes were due to front wheel washout in icy conditions. Both times I was down before I could react with feet or hands so elbow and hip took the impact (once each side, matching injuries hehe).

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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This is why i ride an MTB, as i pretty much crash 2 or 3 times every time i ride the bike.......... ;-)

Fluffsri

3,411 posts

225 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Max_Torque said:
This is why i ride an MTB, as i pretty much crash 2 or 3 times every time i ride the bike.......... ;-)
Yep, if your not crashing , you aint trying lol

Mr E

23,056 posts

288 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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ewenm said:
yes My two crashes were due to front wheel washout in icy conditions. Both times I was down before I could react with feet or hands so elbow and hip took the impact (once each side, matching injuries hehe).
This is my usual off on the road in the winter. No time to even think about trying to save it, just on the deck instantly.

Chicken Chaser

Original Poster:

9,062 posts

253 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Mr E said:
This is my usual off on the road in the winter. No time to even think about trying to save it, just on the deck instantly.
Yup thats exactly what happened. No time to react although I did come out of the pedals. Id only healed from last weeks scrapes but now im even worse this week!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Fluffsri said:
Max_Torque said:
This is why i ride an MTB, as i pretty much crash 2 or 3 times every time i ride the bike.......... ;-)
Yep, if your not crashing , you aint trying lol
Indeed, i have some impressive bruises from a fairly spectacular OTB on Cannocks Black rock garden at the weekend (chain came off at a vital moment just when i was about to pop the front over one of the rocks.......... ;-(

Vladimir

6,917 posts

187 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Yet to crash my road bike (got very close in a tri though) but had some big MTB splats. One smashed my lid to bits and left s teaspoon sized gouge in my right knee. Been rather cautious ever since. Not much fear on trail centre stuff but careful in the wilds. Much better when climbing.