Someone's stolen my bike
Someone's stolen my bike
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hurstg01

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3,222 posts

272 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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I left my Hardtail MTB [bottom of the range 12011 model Boardman] locked up at work in the designated area with a D Lock and extender cable at about half eight this morning, and walked past that area to go to lunch at about 2pm. I saw a gap where my bike should have been and my extender cable cut in half still attached to my D lock frown

The designated bike area isn't visible from the road, is under the building near the main entrance door to and from the car park. The car park has vehicular access via a swipe-card entry barrier that has a path next to it but also has an open air staircase that leads from the barrier down to the designated bike area, again this is not visible from the road.

I spoke to Security and checked back on the footage, and at 9.49 ths morning a guy in jeans trainers and a green hoodie [hood up] was seen carrying a bag and crouching inear my bike. A good 2 minutes later I saw my bike being ridden through the car park, walked up the car park ramp and then ridden into the distance frown

Spoke to Hampshire Police and they will send a PC over to get a copy of the Security footage and, hopefully, recoginse the guy as a serial thief; if not they said it would more than likely be filed as a stolen unrecoverable bike frown

My MTB had a Police marking on it with a secure number, and we had logged that number and took photos of the bike when the whole family had their bikes logged by the Police at the local Waitrose when they had a security-drive on last year.

Fingers crossed they get the guy - not too fussed about the MTB as it will probably be parted out and there would be no use for the frame as it has that secure police marking on...

Now off home [by car as the wife works in the same building] to check to ensure it is covered by insurance [I think it is, but just to put my mind at ease........]


daz3210

5,000 posts

269 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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If there is a 'designated' parking place for bikes, and security, is there any liability on the part of the employer or their insurer in respect of this?

Hackney

7,429 posts

237 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Seems like whatever security is there is a bit lax if some random bloke can come in, hang around and ride off on a bike unchallenged.

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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daz3210 said:
If there is a 'designated' parking place for bikes, and security, is there any liability on the part of the employer or their insurer in respect of this?
Doubt it, there is probably a tiny sign somewhere in the car park saying that all items are left at the owners risk.

Just what exactly do the security team at this office do then if they have security gates to stop unauthorised cars getting in but any old tom dick or harry can just stroll on in?!

hurstg01

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3,222 posts

272 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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anonymous said:
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Looking back the bike looked really secure, big D Lock, thick cable round the bike area, but if they're gonna nick it they're gonna nick it, it just depends how hard you're going to make it for them. As it is I was quite chuffed it took the guy 3 minutes to get the bike off the premises


The thief looked like any other guy in the building [casual clothes etc, some departments have relaxed dress codes, others require shirts and ties], and the security I think is reactive rather than proactive, and more pointed towards personal safety rather than possessions [and rightly so]. I'm also fairly sure there is a general disclaimer like what was mentioned previously

Oh well, anyone know of any deals on CUBE MTB's?......

Edited by hurstg01 on Wednesday 19th September 17:42

GBDG

896 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Got a link to the U lock you had? Interested to know how they got through it without power tools.

S6PNJ

5,837 posts

310 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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anonymous said:
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Gone in 42 Seconds. I'm reading it now!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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daz3210 said:
If there is a 'designated' parking place for bikes, and security, is there any liability on the part of the employer or their insurer in respect of this?
Jeez good job your not on the sp&l stolen bike thread or you would be blaming the op as well as the employer in fact any fooker except the 'thief' rolleyes because they didn't secure it well enough, thieves should have their balls nailed to a table at the 1st opportunity to stop or make them think about it before doing it again mad

daz3210

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269 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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speedyguy said:
daz3210 said:
If there is a 'designated' parking place for bikes, and security, is there any liability on the part of the employer or their insurer in respect of this?
Jeez good job your not on the sp&l stolen bike thread or you would be blaming the op as well as the employer in fact any fooker except the 'thief' rolleyes because they didn't secure it well enough, thieves should have their balls nailed to a table at the 1st opportunity to stop or make them think about it before doing it again mad
Ah, but I'm told that nailing balls of a thief to a table may be against their human rights.

I'm not blaming anyone in particular, but if the OP's insurance won't pay out, I was thinking maybe the employers would.


GBDG

896 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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anonymous said:
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I'm so confused - why would you have a D lock and not put it through the frame?

S6PNJ

5,837 posts

310 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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GBDG said:
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I'm so confused - why would you have a D lock and not put it through the frame?
Where does OP say he didn't? All he says is that the cable was left attached to the D Lock. No comment about the state of the D lock or where it was.

S6PNJ

5,837 posts

310 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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anonymous said:
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Agreed, but the 2key words are 'says' and 'implies'. OP said, you implied, therefore OP needs to clarify.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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would a motorbike lock sort this problem.

S6PNJ

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310 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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anonymous said:
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No back peddling (I see what you did there!) and no I won't take your bet, just need OP to clarify exactly how he locked his bike up then we know whether to commiserate him or laugh at him.

magpie215

5,024 posts

218 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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The Spruce goose said:
would a motorbike lock sort this problem.
In a word no

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdugFzCi24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhPzF-hyC7Q

pokethepope

2,667 posts

217 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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magpie215 said:
I can't watch the videos but surely a huge motorcycle lock would need power tools so the thief would move on to a different bike (OP could leave the lock at work so doesn't matter that it's so heavy)?

magpie215

5,024 posts

218 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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pokethepope said:
magpie215 said:
I can't watch the videos but surely a huge motorcycle lock would need power tools so the thief would move on to a different bike (OP could leave the lock at work so doesn't matter that it's so heavy)?
in the second video it shows many large square chain motorcycle locks being cropped by bolt croppers(large)

also in first vid it shows the reporter stealing his own bikes..one from right outside new scotland yard with a huge pair of bolt croppers in an almost comedy way!!

Magic919

14,493 posts

230 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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I think it's fair to conclude that they wouldn't need to cut the extension cable if they'd defeated the D lock.

Gizmoish

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238 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Magic919 said:
I think it's fair to conclude that they wouldn't need to cut the extension cable if they'd defeated the D lock.
Easy enough to defeat a D-lock given time.

Whenever I ride in I get irritated by the couple of minutes wait while security put down their donuts and wander out to the back gate to let me in. But at least that way randoms can't just amble in and half-inch bikes...

BMWBen

4,906 posts

230 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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magpie215 said:
pokethepope said:
magpie215 said:
I can't watch the videos but surely a huge motorcycle lock would need power tools so the thief would move on to a different bike (OP could leave the lock at work so doesn't matter that it's so heavy)?
in the second video it shows many large square chain motorcycle locks being cropped by bolt croppers(large)

also in first vid it shows the reporter stealing his own bikes..one from right outside new scotland yard with a huge pair of bolt croppers in an almost comedy way!!
There's a video on YouTube of someone trying that with my lock (onguard beast peace of mind test, I think it's called). They barely dent it!! On the downside it weighs about 15kg. And it's not on the insurance "sold secure - warm butter" type schemes.