Converting 3x10 to 1x10
Discussion
I'm sure it's been asked before but as usual the search is down!
Currently running 3x10 having thought "wow, 30 gears that's awesome!" etc when purchasing the bike. I've still never used the granny and only use the big ring on the road so think it's time to switch to 1x10.
I'm assuming it's as straight forward as removing the front derailleur/shifter/cabling, take off the two chainrings I don't want and that's it?
Also - is it worth fitting some sort of chain guide? Not sure how effective they are when you've got a 10 speed cassette - too much movement for a chain guide to cope with? Would it actually help with reducing chain slap still with the standard long cage rear derailleur?
Finally - any product recommendations if it's worth doing?
Currently running 3x10 having thought "wow, 30 gears that's awesome!" etc when purchasing the bike. I've still never used the granny and only use the big ring on the road so think it's time to switch to 1x10.
I'm assuming it's as straight forward as removing the front derailleur/shifter/cabling, take off the two chainrings I don't want and that's it?
Also - is it worth fitting some sort of chain guide? Not sure how effective they are when you've got a 10 speed cassette - too much movement for a chain guide to cope with? Would it actually help with reducing chain slap still with the standard long cage rear derailleur?
Finally - any product recommendations if it's worth doing?
Chain guide, yes, else it'll be bouncing off everywhere.
Something like this:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ethirteen-xcx-st-chain-ret...
...or this:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ethirteen-xcx-st-e-type-ch...
...depending upon what frame you've got and the mounts (if any).
I tried to bodge one out of an old front mech, using the limit screws to lock things in place. It was rubbish
Something like this:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ethirteen-xcx-st-chain-ret...
...or this:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ethirteen-xcx-st-e-type-ch...
...depending upon what frame you've got and the mounts (if any).
I tried to bodge one out of an old front mech, using the limit screws to lock things in place. It was rubbish
Thanks - did wonder if I should shorten the chain seeing as it would never be going around a bigger chainring.
Is t worth having something like this to guide the chain from the bottom too? Although my bike is an AM bike I plan on making it more the DH end of AM so I start doing more uplift days and I'm sure it will still be fine for the occasional XC train centres.
Also - what's the difference between all the different ways of mounting it (BB/IO5 etc etc) - anyway to easily tell which is the one I'd need?
Is t worth having something like this to guide the chain from the bottom too? Although my bike is an AM bike I plan on making it more the DH end of AM so I start doing more uplift days and I'm sure it will still be fine for the occasional XC train centres.
Also - what's the difference between all the different ways of mounting it (BB/IO5 etc etc) - anyway to easily tell which is the one I'd need?
james239 said:
Thanks - did wonder if I should shorten the chain seeing as it would never be going around a bigger chainring.
Is t worth having something like this to guide the chain from the bottom too? Although my bike is an AM bike I plan on making it more the DH end of AM so I start doing more uplift days and I'm sure it will still be fine for the occasional XC train centres.
Also - what's the difference between all the different ways of mounting it (BB/IO5 etc etc) - anyway to easily tell which is the one I'd need?
Having something at the bottom helps if you're DH'ing. If you're pedalling around a trail centre...meh.Is t worth having something like this to guide the chain from the bottom too? Although my bike is an AM bike I plan on making it more the DH end of AM so I start doing more uplift days and I'm sure it will still be fine for the occasional XC train centres.
Also - what's the difference between all the different ways of mounting it (BB/IO5 etc etc) - anyway to easily tell which is the one I'd need?
re. mounting. Look at your frame. If there're three bolt holes around the bottom bracket, then it's either ISCG or ISGC 05. E-Types go on behind the BB cups. What frame is it?
I don't live far from UK bike park so plan on visiting regularly to do the DH runs. Want to go back to Cwmcarn to go the DH run too so I'll look for something with the bottom jockey wheel too.
It's a Canyon Nerve AM.
I'll have a look at the frame for mounting later - no energy to go and check after this morning's bike ride!
It's a Canyon Nerve AM.
I'll have a look at the frame for mounting later - no energy to go and check after this morning's bike ride!
There's three holes around the bottom bracket so I assume it'll be either ISCG or ISGC 05. What's ther difference between the two?
Is it a simple case of removing the cranks and chainrings then slotting the chainguide on? There's a bit behind the cranks on either side of the frame that says 'do not disassemble' that I didn't notice being there on my old bike (can provide pics to show what I mean if needs be).
Is it a simple case of removing the cranks and chainrings then slotting the chainguide on? There's a bit behind the cranks on either side of the frame that says 'do not disassemble' that I didn't notice being there on my old bike (can provide pics to show what I mean if needs be).
james239 said:
There's three holes around the bottom bracket so I assume it'll be either ISCG or ISGC 05. What's ther difference between the two?
Is it a simple case of removing the cranks and chainrings then slotting the chainguide on? There's a bit behind the cranks on either side of the frame that says 'do not disassemble' that I didn't notice being there on my old bike (can provide pics to show what I mean if needs be).
Different standard, that's all: bolt spacings, etc...Is it a simple case of removing the cranks and chainrings then slotting the chainguide on? There's a bit behind the cranks on either side of the frame that says 'do not disassemble' that I didn't notice being there on my old bike (can provide pics to show what I mean if needs be).
The bit to which you refer is the bottom bracket bearing/cups. The "Do not disassemble" refers to the BB cups themselves: when they die, you're meant to replace the cup and bearing as one. Some people open them up and bang up a new bearing. Shimano don't like people doing that!
It should be chainrings and crank off, chain guide on, reassemble and then set-up. Although as said before, there's reference "out there" on the 'net which suggest that despite the ISCG 05 claims, the Nerve requires a Caynon-only chain guide, or a Canyon-supplied adaptor.
Jimbo. said:
Different standard, that's all: bolt spacings, etc...
The bit to which you refer is the bottom bracket bearing/cups. The "Do not disassemble" refers to the BB cups themselves: when they die, you're meant to replace the cup and bearing as one. Some people open them up and bang up a new bearing. Shimano don't like people doing that!
It should be chainrings and crank off, chain guide on, reassemble and then set-up. Although as said before, there's reference "out there" on the 'net which suggest that despite the ISCG 05 claims, the Nerve requires a Caynon-only chain guide, or a Canyon-supplied adaptor.
Ah, thanks for pointing that out! A quick search on the issue and it seems you won't get a standard guide on due the the way the swingarm mounts, so you need an adaptor. Will get in touch with Canyon UK to see if I can get my hands on one.The bit to which you refer is the bottom bracket bearing/cups. The "Do not disassemble" refers to the BB cups themselves: when they die, you're meant to replace the cup and bearing as one. Some people open them up and bang up a new bearing. Shimano don't like people doing that!
It should be chainrings and crank off, chain guide on, reassemble and then set-up. Although as said before, there's reference "out there" on the 'net which suggest that despite the ISCG 05 claims, the Nerve requires a Caynon-only chain guide, or a Canyon-supplied adaptor.
Also - do you need shorter chainring bolts ( like these? when going down to a single ring? Think that may finally be the last question!
A bit late to this thread but but I recenlty went 1x10 from 3x9
Mine's made up of a 11/34 cassette, an e.13 40T chainring and a basic Superstar chainguide (I also needed a set of shorter 'single ring' chainring fixings to bolt it together) The gearing is perfect for my mainly XC riding, the 10 gears being just enough. I can still loose the chain if I'm being a hooligan (like today) so am considering a better chainguide.
Mine's made up of a 11/34 cassette, an e.13 40T chainring and a basic Superstar chainguide (I also needed a set of shorter 'single ring' chainring fixings to bolt it together) The gearing is perfect for my mainly XC riding, the 10 gears being just enough. I can still loose the chain if I'm being a hooligan (like today) so am considering a better chainguide.
Edited by Mikeoupe on Wednesday 27th June 23:01
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