Any PH Du/tri-athletes ?
Any PH Du/tri-athletes ?
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patmahe

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5,919 posts

233 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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Hi,

Have been doing some running since January and am at the point now where 5k is possible (had a very low level of fitness to start with), now I'm looking at entering a Duathlon on May 2nd so need to introduce some cycling into my routine.

Distances for the Duathlon are:
run 2.7k
bike 13k
run 2.7k

My question is what sort of training routine would you recommend/do you use to get ready in that space of time? Any decent websites to help work out a realistic training plan? I reckon I can realistically dedicate 3 nights a week to it.

Don1

16,792 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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The only thing I would say is practice going from a bike to the run - you'll understand why when you do. Apart from that, there are a few Tri threads in the Sports forum - most of all, have fun.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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patmahe said:
Hi,

Have been doing some running since January and am at the point now where 5k is possible (had a very low level of fitness to start with), now I'm looking at entering a Duathlon on May 2nd so need to introduce some cycling into my routine.

Distances for the Duathlon are:
run 2.7k
bike 13k
run 2.7k

My question is what sort of training routine would you recommend/do you use to get ready in that space of time? Any decent websites to help work out a realistic training plan? I reckon I can realistically dedicate 3 nights a week to it.
i've been competing in duathlons for a few years and we have had a good few threads about the subject recently with loads of good advice.

training shouldnt be too complex, run one night, cycle another, run, cycle, there are loads of hints and tips as to how you stitch them together (basically conditioning your legs to go from run to bike and vice versa). to be honest, its just about getting the miles in, nothing else will be as effective though a good stretching routine will prevent injury and aid recovery and a core strengthning session is as good as a run or a bike session.

for the core session, the 100 press up challenge is a good traininn tool if you can get the technique right (try youtube), or you can just do something like 10 x pressups, 10 x crunches and 1 minute plank, repeast 5 times) as a session.

you can read a bit on nutrition for interest, but with all due respect, for those distances, its not worth doing anything different to normal, just stay hydrated.

tranistions can be quite complicated and a bit of a faff dependant upon how well organised they are. get there early, work out a sensible place to put your bike where you will find it (at the end of a row is normally a good place)

keep a bottle of water on the bike but stop taking on fluids in the last mile or so of the bike leg as i found this prevents a stitch on the second run.

enjoy yourself, enter another one before you complete this one, they are addictive....

patmahe

Original Poster:

5,919 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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pablo said:
i've been competing in duathlons for a few years and we have had a good few threads about the subject recently with loads of good advice.

training shouldnt be too complex, run one night, cycle another, run, cycle, there are loads of hints and tips as to how you stitch them together (basically conditioning your legs to go from run to bike and vice versa). to be honest, its just about getting the miles in, nothing else will be as effective though a good stretching routine will prevent injury and aid recovery and a core strengthning session is as good as a run or a bike session.

for the core session, the 100 press up challenge is a good traininn tool if you can get the technique right (try youtube), or you can just do something like 10 x pressups, 10 x crunches and 1 minute plank, repeast 5 times) as a session.

you can read a bit on nutrition for interest, but with all due respect, for those distances, its not worth doing anything different to normal, just stay hydrated.

tranistions can be quite complicated and a bit of a faff dependant upon how well organised they are. get there early, work out a sensible place to put your bike where you will find it (at the end of a row is normally a good place)

keep a bottle of water on the bike but stop taking on fluids in the last mile or so of the bike leg as i found this prevents a stitch on the second run.

enjoy yourself, enter another one before you complete this one, they are addictive....
Thanks for the advice all sounds good. The event I'm looking at is the first of a series so every month or so over the Summer I'll be able to enter another event of the same distance and monitor my progress.

langy

639 posts

268 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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i've done half a dozen off road duathlons, 5k run, 20k ride, 5k run.

My training regime is........ turn up on the day, do it, moan about how stiff i am for the next couple of days.... simple wink

crisisjez

9,209 posts

234 months

Friday 23rd March 2012
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If you dont already have one get a Heart Rate Moniter. Its a great tool for pacing yourself as you wont understand the messages your body is sending yetsmile

superkartracer

8,959 posts

251 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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I did the London Ultra last year, cracking event, this was -

20km Run
80km Bike
10km Run

It was hard and the weather conditions were shocking , heavy rain and 40+ mph winds.

Was going to have a crack at it this year but switched to full-time bike now , so no running as it effects my bike training gains

I have some cracking training plans if you want them

S

clonmult

10,529 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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crisisjez said:
If you dont already have one get a Heart Rate Moniter. Its a great tool for pacing yourself as you wont understand the messages your body is sending yetsmile
This times a thousand!

I'm definitely not a good runner (5k in about 26 mins), but the basic HRM has been the best investment possible. Spent a while working out my comfortable max HR over a distance, dialled in that as the max for running. Every time it started beeping I just slowed down a little - made a truly massive difference in how I felt afterwards. And it gave huge benefits when doing a 10k, kept the same pace as my 5k, so completed in 52 mins.

Even a basic HRM - top investment.

nick s

1,372 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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langy said:
i've done half a dozen off road duathlons, 5k run, 20k ride, 5k run.

My training regime is........ turn up on the day, do it, moan about how stiff i am for the next couple of days.... simple wink
I don't understand why you wouldn't want to train?! Almost seems pointless doing the event?!
Wouldn't you feel more satisfied and a better sense of achievement, had you trained and got the best result possible? smile

Fourmotion

1,032 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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There is a thread in the Sports forum about triathlons and such like

Triathlon Thread

My best disciplines are biking and swimming, but there just aren't any races around that cater for that, so I've spent the winter on my running.

WarrenG

345 posts

226 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Rule #
42
// A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.

If it’s preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run, it is not called a bike race, it is called duathlon or a triathlon. Neither of which is a bike race. Also keep in mind that one should only swim in order to prevent drowning, and should only run if being chased. And even then, one should only run fast enough to prevent capture.

wink

langy

639 posts

268 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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nick s said:
I don't understand why you wouldn't want to train?! Almost seems pointless doing the event?!
Wouldn't you feel more satisfied and a better sense of achievement, had you trained and got the best result possible? smile
Tongue in cheek comment hehe

I do train, but probably not as much as I should. I've just started running again in readiness for the Hairy Legs Challenge in May.

My aim is to try and beat my PB in each event and I've managed it so far (i think).

I always find the hardest part is transitioning between bike and run, legs feel like jelly for a mile or so. I guess I should practice that in the next 6 weeks or so.

Rolls

1,502 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Think i'm going to have to get clued up on du- training, as I find that when I ride alot my running really suffers frown - just want to have a half sensible pace at both..

superkartracer

8,959 posts

251 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Rolls said:
Think i'm going to have to get clued up on du- training, as I find that when I ride alot my running really suffers frown - just want to have a half sensible pace at both..
Do a load of brick training that helped me loads

Rolls

1,502 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Whats that then matey? (excuse my ignorance!)

superkartracer

8,959 posts

251 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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It's not interval work, a brick is simple but rather nasty and they work wonders biggrin

Go run 10km fast then jump straight onto the bike and ride a fast 40 km, do it the other way too, bike 40km fast jump off then run flat-out for 5-10km, your legs feel like bricks ( hence the name ) but that will
go as your body learns to handle these, it'll turn you into a proper racer wink

They are hellish but fun

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-deta...

Rolls

1,502 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Gotcha... - Do do a little interval training when i'm running, but no-where near enough to be honest..
I'll have to try this running > Bike malarky out over the summer!