Do people lie?
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CooperS

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4,580 posts

248 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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About how fast they can average there weekend / evening ride?

Or do we have either

  • undiscovered Lance Armstrong’s
  • They ride at club level and are on a bike week in week out training?
  • Lying the average folk don’t average 20mph plus by themselves?
I ask as this time of year prompts a lot of people to go out and get a road bike so we saee a lot of posts about they first experiences (which im in no way discouraging) and it seems when anyone says I’m new to this road bike malarkey they then either I rode 10 miles and it was killing me.... or they flip to the other end of the scale and say they average 18 mph over a 20 mile ride!!

Now I am in no way a club rider but do commute often on my bike and currently in training for a 500 mile in 4 days charity event so feel I fall into Mr average cyclist. I went out last night out of Edinburgh and average over 18 miles 16.6 mph.

I absolutely felt like I had blitzed myself and at points was doing 25 mph on the flats (albeit for only minutes at a time) and 33 down the hills but dropped time and speed when climbing (trying to keep 12mph average up)

I know I shouldn’t care and I know my diet doesn’t help at times (13.5 stone 5.9) but I feel I’ve got a long way to go to getting close to riding by myself and averaging 18mph. I say this as I averaged just over this for the Caledonia Etape this year which was due to the great conditions and the fact at points I could hide in a group.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

275 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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People are misinformed by poorly set-up bike computers...

shouldbworking

4,801 posts

241 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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Also they lie smile

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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Everyone on PH set 20mph+ average speeds, some lap Richmond Park in under 3 minutes and others reach Brighton from London in 45 minutes.

All of this is done on a folding shopper with three speed hub gears.

In all seriousness, it's a mix of some having talent and others believing iPhone app data and maybe (just maybe) a few tall tales.

curlie467

7,650 posts

230 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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I am just terrible at sustaining speed on my own, i still do it on the mtb when i am out on my own, i end up going slower and slower.

On my old road bike i couldnt seem to get above an average of around 12-14 mph, poor really but then i tend to look all over the place and not just focus on going as fast as possible.

y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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Garlick said:
Everyone on PH set 20mph+ average speeds, some lap Richmond Park in under 3 minutes and others reach Brighton from London in 45 minutes.

All of this is done on a folding shopper with three speed hub gears.

In all seriousness, it's a mix of some having talent and others believing iPhone app data and maybe (just maybe) a few tall tales.
more than a few tall tails wink

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Beyond Rational

3,544 posts

244 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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As we know, PH is full of 7 foot tall kickboxing Company Directoring Alpha Males, so it comes as no surprise that we see Armstrong equalling speed.

okgo

42,101 posts

227 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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I know what you mean, and I'm sure people lie, there's also a lot of people that because they can't do something themselves don't think others can!

My cycling has improved a lot over the last 6 months whilst I've been doing 20+ miles every day, I've also lost a fair chunk of weight which helps. I also ride with a club, this helps as there are no haters, and there are always people that are a LOT faster.

With regards to average, I think there is always going to be people that wish they were faster, personally speaking I can do a flat 50 miles at 20 mph + average, as I did it last Sunday, when hills are in the mix that does drop, but over the last few long rides I've done I have been at 18+ no matter what route we have taken.

20 miles isn't far enough to get a far idea really, 40-50 is a lot more telling than 20 for averages etc.

drakart

1,759 posts

239 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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I can only imagine that the guy destroying the Alpe D'Huez hairpins and all the roadies last week on his Brompton is a PH'er.

Sheets Tabuer

21,395 posts

244 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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I've wondered this, I often see posts from people who have pulled a 30 year old MTB out of the garage then got to work 15-20 miles away in 20 minutes and felt fine.

I know I've only been going six weeks now but have been doing at least 10.6m/17k a day and some days will do 20m/32k (avg 17k in 44 mins)

I am aware I have a MTB, I've been riding out looking for footpaths etc in the countryside but they all have massive swing gates I can't possibly get my bike through frown

R500POP

9,073 posts

239 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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I don't, all of my rides are GPS logged, so I can't!!!!

mk1fan

10,903 posts

254 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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People lie.

This maybe a lie though in which case people don't lie. But they do.

Kermit power

29,622 posts

242 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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drakart said:
I can only imagine that the guy destroying the Alpe D'Huez hairpins and all the roadies last week on his Brompton is a PH'er.
WTF?? Is this real? Is there video somewhere?

Getting back to the OP's question, I think it totally depends on geography.

Since I started commuting to work again, I've covered 900 miles at an average pace of 11.73mph. This is a commute into Central London with traffic, roadworks, traffic lights and such, plus the odd stop off in a shop where I forget to pause the GPS tracker. smile

I'm unfit and 18 stone, but I could take that 900 miles to rural Norfolk and - given that I can comfortably maintain 21mph on the flat - I reckon I'd comfortably average somewhere around the 17mph mark. Take me to the Cairngorms, however, and I doubt I'd average 7mph, even with the descents! hehe

Mars

10,089 posts

243 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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Endomondo keeps me honest - and disappointed.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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The terrain makes huge difference, I average 18mph on flat country commute to work but on 13mph on the rather hilly 'Maidenhead Torture 40 '!

Webber3

1,228 posts

248 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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Sheets Tabuer said:
I am aware I have a MTB, I've been riding out looking for footpaths etc in the countryside but they all have massive swing gates I can't possibly get my bike through frown
If they're no more than 7ft high, the average PH'er would just bunny hop them.

dubbs

1,599 posts

313 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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CooperS said:
About how fast they can average there weekend / evening ride?

Or do we have either

  • undiscovered Lance Armstrong’s
  • They ride at club level and are on a bike week in week out training?
  • Lying the average folk don’t average 20mph plus by themselves?
I ask as this time of year prompts a lot of people to go out and get a road bike so we saee a lot of posts about they first experiences (which im in no way discouraging) and it seems when anyone says I’m new to this road bike malarkey they then either I rode 10 miles and it was killing me.... or they flip to the other end of the scale and say they average 18 mph over a 20 mile ride!!

Now I am in no way a club rider but do commute often on my bike and currently in training for a 500 mile in 4 days charity event so feel I fall into Mr average cyclist. I went out last night out of Edinburgh and average over 18 miles 16.6 mph.

I absolutely felt like I had blitzed myself and at points was doing 25 mph on the flats (albeit for only minutes at a time) and 33 down the hills but dropped time and speed when climbing (trying to keep 12mph average up)

I know I shouldn’t care and I know my diet doesn’t help at times (13.5 stone 5.9) but I feel I’ve got a long way to go to getting close to riding by myself and averaging 18mph. I say this as I averaged just over this for the Caledonia Etape this year which was due to the great conditions and the fact at points I could hide in a group.
I'll average 18-19mph running on a zero carbs training ride of 60km riding on my own.

By zero carbs I mean I'll be running VERY low in the diet as well (so little to no carbs prior to ride) as not taking any carbs with me on the ride, just a nuun-based drink

My average speed on the last triathlon was just over 20mph, that was after swimming a mile and conserving for the 10km run.

So, whilst I'm sure there's a bit of poetic license at times I'm sure there's a good few riders on here that are decent enough to post the times you're talking about - it all comes with practice and getting the weight down.

In 2004 I was just under 16 stone, now I'm 12.5 stone and I'm the same height as you.... I'm still slow for my age group in Triathlon (I'm 38)

Fume troll

4,389 posts

241 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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CooperS said:
I went out last night out of Edinburgh and average over 18 miles 16.6 mph.
Yes, people exaggerate, but I'm afraid you're also just not cycling very fast. smile I mean this in the nicest possible way.

Cheers,

FT.

dubbs

1,599 posts

313 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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and as for the budding Lance Armstrong comment, something to consider - those boys... on stage 13 of the TdF today are going up mountains and STILL averaging over 40km/h!!!!

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okgo

42,101 posts

227 months

Friday 15th July 2011
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That's a hell of a weight loss!

I've done from 15.8 down to 14,1 as of this morning, think I feel quicker?