Vintage bike help.
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Baked_bean

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1,945 posts

221 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Hey guys,
I used to be big on my mtbing and bmx when i was a little bit younger. I am now looking to get into road cycling as i do miss being out on a bike, my dad gave me his 1970's dawes complete with brooks saddle, Campagnolo gearing etc and its pretty nice other than being abit tatty.

However the brakes are shot, they are centre pull calipers that attach in the centre of the bridge. I am just wondering if could fit some modern sora brakes? As although i like the vintage looks i really don't like centre pull brakes.

Thanks

Randy Winkman

22,350 posts

218 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Baked_bean said:
Hey guys,
I used to be big on my mtbing and bmx when i was a little bit younger. I am now looking to get into road cycling as i do miss being out on a bike, my dad gave me his 1970's dawes complete with brooks saddle, Campagnolo gearing etc and its pretty nice other than being abit tatty.

However the brakes are shot, they are centre pull calipers that attach in the centre of the bridge. I am just wondering if could fit some modern sora brakes? As although i like the vintage looks i really don't like centre pull brakes.

Thanks
Just out of interest - what don't you like about them? I really miss centre-pull brakes; really powerful and easy to adjust. Especially Mafac.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/mafac.html



fixedwheelnut

744 posts

261 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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If you really want to replace them you will need some with the same drop from bolt centre to pad. Probably Shimano RX 100s if you can find any, Centre pulls are still good brakes when set up correctly

b2hbm

1,301 posts

251 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Unless you really don't like the looks of center-pull brakes, try replacing the brake blocks with some modern ones. If the existing ones are from the 1970s, depending on how it's been stored the rubber could be very hard now and give a lousy feel to the brakes.

yellowjack

18,414 posts

195 months

Saturday 11th June 2011
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yikesREPLACE CENTRE PULL BRAKES ON A CLASSIC BIKE?????????? The next thing you know, you'll be asking for advice on how to commit the ultimate act of sacrilege, trying to butcher the poor bike into a 'fixie' yikes

I would get those bad boys looked at, and sorted if at all possible. Plenty of modern pads/carriers to choose from to upgrade to modern rubber, but I would love to have my old Carlton back, with it's Weinmann centre pull brakes. On a more serious note, what condition are those '70s rims in? The best pads in the world won't stop you if the braking surface of the rim is contaminated with dirt or lubes, or badly corroded. Try dismantling the lot, cleaning it up and reassembling it all and see how things are before you go ahead with the drastic act of replacing the brakes with modern items. Good centre pull units, properly adjusted and set up should stop you as well as any budget modern dual pivot item.

Edited by yellowjack on Saturday 11th June 00:31

DBSV8

5,958 posts

267 months

Saturday 11th June 2011
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It can be done ,

Heres my 1954 late fathers bike ( the only original bit is the frame ) that was all that could be salvaged after years of rust hanging up in the shed.
Its got a lot of interesting history , back in the mid 1950s my father then in his 20s used to race at the "Reg harris" stadium in Fallowfield , He designed the frame himself and had it built using reynolds 531 tubing. Originally a fixed gear ,( as he couldnt afford a derailer ) I took the frame to an old bike shop in leeds , where they spent 4 months rebuilding the bike to period 50s style , the rear dropouts and stays had to be widened to accomodate a modern 20 gear cassette and the frame was chromed and repainted BRG with period 50s Reynolds 531 tubing stickers it was harder to find a period set of forks .
The bike was fitted up with Shimano 105 gears / brakes which looked fine , but I prefered the Campagnola record gears on another bike so these have now been swapped over.



On the Vintage theme

I am planning a trip with the bike to Mount Ventoux , later this year and wanted some retro clothing ,
As the Mountain is infamous for the tragic death of Tom Simpson , I thought it would be fitting to get a period cycle jersey.

link here
http://www.soigneur.co.nz/webapps/site/76887/22723...

For period shoes / Gloves these are excellent from Dromarti

http://www.dromarti.com/index.php?main_page=index&...



cheers



Baked_bean

Original Poster:

1,945 posts

221 months

Saturday 11th June 2011
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DBSV8 said:
It can be done ,

Heres my 1954 late fathers bike ( the only original bit is the frame ) that was all that could be salvaged after years of rust hanging up in the shed.
Its got a lot of interesting history , back in the mid 1950s my father then in his 20s used to race at the "Reg harris" stadium in Fallowfield , He designed the frame himself and had it built using reynolds 531 tubing. Originally a fixed gear ,( as he couldnt afford a derailer ) I took the frame to an old bike shop in leeds , where they spent 4 months rebuilding the bike to period 50s style , the rear dropouts and stays had to be widened to accomodate a modern 20 gear cassette and the frame was chromed and repainted BRG with period 50s Reynolds 531 tubing stickers it was harder to find a period set of forks .
The bike was fitted up with Shimano 105 gears / brakes which looked fine , but I prefered the Campagnola record gears on another bike so these have now been swapped over.

Nice bike! are they 700c wheels then? they do look abit smaller.... also modernish brakes?

DBSV8

5,958 posts

267 months

Saturday 11th June 2011
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Baked_bean said:
Nice bike! are they 700c wheels then? they do look abit smaller.... also modernish brakes?
Yes the whole bike was "modernised" to take 700c wheels and the Shimano 105 set up. while trying to maintain the 50s period look.

I have just upgraded the bike to a Campagnola record set up and have all the Shimano 105 parts you see on the bike in a box including the wheels.
Fairly certain the brakes were changed , can not be sure ? All the parts that came off are in Excellent condition. Fairly certain the 105 would fit your bike and would still be in keeping with the period.

PM me if your interested

cheers






yellowjack

18,414 posts

195 months

Saturday 11th June 2011
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What a fabulous bike, and a great job bringing it into the present day. I may now be inclined to change my mind about the rights and wrongs of changing the brakes over. On the vintage theme, you can date that photo pretty accurately by the Nokia in the top right corner. I have two of those sitting in a drawer, I wonder if any of those 'as seen on TV' mobile recycling companies would drop me some cash for them???

DBSV8

5,958 posts

267 months

Saturday 11th June 2011
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yellowjack said:
What a fabulous bike, and a great job bringing it into the present day. I may now be inclined to change my mind about the rights and wrongs of changing the brakes over. On the vintage theme, you can date that photo pretty accurately by the Nokia in the top right corner. I have two of those sitting in a drawer, I wonder if any of those 'as seen on TV' mobile recycling companies would drop me some cash for them???
well spotted , my old "French" pay as you go, guessing that photo was taken around 2005 ?

bike looks much better now with the hand built wheels