Newey/Brack GT40

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Trtj

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433 posts

138 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Does anyone know the history of this car? Who built it etc? Is it a licensed continuation or original? I wanted to know if the race was for continuations or purely originals.

James B

1,314 posts

251 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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I remember reading that the Goodwood entry is rather oversubscribed and therefore invitation only. As such they were able to invite only the finest examples and original cars. I believe that Newey has faced criticism in the past as to the originality of his cars but I understood this to be purely down to the fact their performance was significantly better than in period and this wasn't going unnoticed.

Out of interest, What made you single out the Newey car?

AMD87

2,004 posts

209 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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How on earth did he keep it on the track that's what I'd like to know
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1jF__B1xpJY

RichB

52,777 posts

291 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Funnily enough at the start of the GT40 race I remarked to my wife, if you want to pick a winner of this race go for car No 5. Why, she asked, because it's Mansell's number 5? No, I said because it's Adian Newey's - he started 4th on the grid but I was proven right at the end! biglaugh

squirejo

800 posts

250 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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[quote=AMD87]How on earth did he keep it on the track that's what I'd like to know
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1jF__B1xpJY

Bleeding 'ell and to keep that up for the whole race...."

richebets

268 posts

205 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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Some info on the car here http://gt40.net/gt40-chassis-numbers/gt40-p1010/

The car also had a large 'off' at the lemans classic back in 2006 .


jammyhl

9 posts

223 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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In the paddocks some of the GT40's where described diplomatically as being "GT40 type" ...

They were definitely not all original...

scutt11

221 posts

164 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Saw them at on of the practice days and on handheld stopwatch timed mr brack at 1.22!

Trtj

Original Poster:

433 posts

138 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I wasn't intentionally singling this one out, I just wondered how many were originals and continuations. Newey's car seemed to be extra rapid, does anyone know if it had the 289 or the 7l?

I have seen the video, and yes its mental. I just don't see why these ever had such vast rear tyre widths at only 900kg. The contact patch pressure on the tarmac must have been a lot lower than other sports cars of the time?

All this interest, well, my brother in law have found ourselves the new keepers of a part built gt40 rep. Planets aligned, divorces happened and mates rates were done. I hope to put the build diary up on here. We hope to change from mk3 shape back to mk 1.

Alex

Trtj

Original Poster:

433 posts

138 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I wasn't intentionally singling this one out, I just wondered how many were originals and continuations. Newey's car seemed to be extra rapid, does anyone know if it had the 289 or the 7l?

I have seen the video, and yes its mental. I just don't see why these ever had such vast rear tyre widths at only 900kg. The contact patch pressure on the tarmac must have been a lot lower than other sports cars of the time?

All this interest, well, my brother in law have found ourselves the new keepers of a part built gt40 rep. Planets aligned, divorces happened and mates rates were done. I hope to put the build diary up on here. We hope to change from mk3 shape back to mk 1.

Alex

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Trtj said:
I wasn't intentionally singling this one out, I just wondered how many were originals and continuations. Newey's car seemed to be extra rapid, does anyone know if it had the 289 or the 7l?

I have seen the video, and yes its mental. I just don't see why these ever had such vast rear tyre widths at only 900kg. The contact patch pressure on the tarmac must have been a lot lower than other sports cars of the time?

All this interest, well, my brother in law have found ourselves the new keepers of a part built gt40 rep. Planets aligned, divorces happened and mates rates were done. I hope to put the build diary up on here. We hope to change from mk3 shape back to mk 1.

Alex
Certain I heard on the commentary during qually that only 3 were continuation models. As has been said the Newey example has had major rebuilds both in period and under AN's ownership.
It's a 289 (as in historic homologated form.)



This pic shows the evidence of hard use, the cracks in the aluminum door skin. I was interested to see how it looked close up. Also very interested to see how it would do in the 'normal' Whitsun Trophy against the T70s and McLarens in the hands of Brack

Glloyd

13 posts

159 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Trophybloo said:
Certain I heard on the commentary during qually that only 3 were continuation models. As has been said the Newey example has had major rebuilds both in period and under AN's ownership.
It's a 289 (as in historic homologated form.)



This pic shows the evidence of hard use, the cracks in the aluminum door skin. I was interested to see how it looked close up. Also very interested to see how it would do in the 'normal' Whitsun Trophy against the T70s and McLarens in the hands of Brack
The chassis is steel and the body work is fibreglass (or should be; there was an awful lot of carbon fibre on the cars at Goodwood - including this one) but there is no aluminium body work on a GT40.

Trtj

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433 posts

138 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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richebets said:
Some info on the car here http://gt40.net/gt40-chassis-numbers/gt40-p1010/

The car also had a large 'off' at the lemans classic back in 2006 .
Great link ta. The chassis numbers dont go up to the later cars though? I.e 68, 69 Lm winners. Anywho that's answered my question, thanks.

Trtj

Original Poster:

433 posts

138 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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richebets said:
Some info on the car here http://gt40.net/gt40-chassis-numbers/gt40-p1010/

The car also had a large 'off' at the lemans classic back in 2006 .
Great link ta. The chassis numbers dont go up to the later cars though? I.e 68, 69 Lm winners. Anywho that's answered my question, thanks.

NDA

22,343 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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richebets said:
Some info on the car here http://gt40.net/gt40-chassis-numbers/gt40-p1010/

The car also had a large 'off' at the lemans classic back in 2006 .
I think I have a pic of the car I took at Le Mans post crash.... Not in good shape.

Glloyd

13 posts

159 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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RichB said:
Funnily enough at the start of the GT40 race I remarked to my wife, if you want to pick a winner of this race go for car No 5. Why, she asked, because it's Mansell's number 5? No, I said because it's Adian Newey's - he started 4th on the grid but I was proven right at the end! biglaugh
They were rather gifted the win though by the most appalling driver change by Lynn/Pirro who threw away a commanding lead with their hugely long pitstop.

johnnyreggae

3,001 posts

167 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Trtj said:
Who built it etc?
Red Bull @ Milton Keynes

heebeegeetee

28,969 posts

255 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Glloyd said:
They were rather gifted the win though by the most appalling driver change by Lynn/Pirro who threw away a commanding lead with their hugely long pitstop.
I do think those driver changes spoil the race somewhat.

Glloyd

13 posts

159 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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johnnyreggae said:
Trtj said:
Who built it etc?
Red Bull @ Milton Keynes
Exactly!

RS2freak

4 posts

134 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I was lucky enough to be in the pits for the GT40 race on Saturday, and better still I was right beside the Newey/Brack pit (pure chance) and I was like a little kid in sweet shop heaven!

Took this on my phone....

http://youtu.be/yLTFkeYqTGs

Love the guy on the pit lane wall doing the thumbs up or down for when its safe to exit the pit lane - very old school!