V8 Oil Questions
Discussion
I used the Griot's Garage Oil Extractor on my last oil change and worked
great....just like with my 89SE. I was told that it would be a good idea to
allow the oil to drain for my next change and check the magnet for any compiled
metals. This same person also mentioned me sending my oil in for analyzing for
a better understanding of my engine wear, etc..
So... Is there a Magnet Plug of some sort on the V8? If I do extract from
below, would the oil drain better with the rear up a bit or the front? Oil
analysis....Good idea??
Thanks!
Ed-
great....just like with my 89SE. I was told that it would be a good idea to
allow the oil to drain for my next change and check the magnet for any compiled
metals. This same person also mentioned me sending my oil in for analyzing for
a better understanding of my engine wear, etc..
So... Is there a Magnet Plug of some sort on the V8? If I do extract from
below, would the oil drain better with the rear up a bit or the front? Oil
analysis....Good idea??
Thanks!
Ed-
Do I hear the sound of cricket's on this post?
Hey Ed, I have to post on my own time now. It is so busy at work now. Laid off 4 people this month. So everyone is picking up the extra work. I think the unemployment rate got up to maybe 5% in Minnesota. Hard to believe a few years ago when the rate was below 2% we were hiring people that just had to breathe.
Calvin 90 SE
Hey Ed, I have to post on my own time now. It is so busy at work now. Laid off 4 people this month. So everyone is picking up the extra work. I think the unemployment rate got up to maybe 5% in Minnesota. Hard to believe a few years ago when the rate was below 2% we were hiring people that just had to breathe.
Calvin 90 SE
Good to hear from you again Calvin. Yes!
it's crickets once again for me.... I'm getting several "serious" replies among many jokes and "I don't knows" from the TE list. It's oil changing time and local mechanic recommended I do several things different this time when changing my oil. My rough ideling is still there even after going through several tanks of gas. I'm not sure where to go with this one. I pulled back out all of the plugs I installed last month and checked them. Everything looks great....not sure where to go from here. The car is still very drivable but after long runs it shuts down when in traffic. I'll have to take it to an authorized mechanic that's about 150miles away.... This is where frustration sets in. I'm thinking it's probably a bad injector??
Ed-
it's crickets once again for me.... I'm getting several "serious" replies among many jokes and "I don't knows" from the TE list. It's oil changing time and local mechanic recommended I do several things different this time when changing my oil. My rough ideling is still there even after going through several tanks of gas. I'm not sure where to go with this one. I pulled back out all of the plugs I installed last month and checked them. Everything looks great....not sure where to go from here. The car is still very drivable but after long runs it shuts down when in traffic. I'll have to take it to an authorized mechanic that's about 150miles away.... This is where frustration sets in. I'm thinking it's probably a bad injector?? Ed-
Ed,
Didn't realize you were having so many troubles with your V8. How many miles are on the car? There's quite a few things you should be able to do to help isolate the problem. My V8 has about 12K miles and runs great... so far. Have you driven around with a scan-tool plugged in? Most can capture data to help isolate problem areas. Has a cambelt service been done lately? Did you try resetting the ECM?
Regards, KM
2000 V8
Didn't realize you were having so many troubles with your V8. How many miles are on the car? There's quite a few things you should be able to do to help isolate the problem. My V8 has about 12K miles and runs great... so far. Have you driven around with a scan-tool plugged in? Most can capture data to help isolate problem areas. Has a cambelt service been done lately? Did you try resetting the ECM?
Regards, KM
2000 V8
Ed, Calvin, Ernest, Kylie, SuperDave et al,
Here is a good device I'm using which doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I've used it for a couple of years and when I first did, as an experiment, I cut open the oil filter and saw enough metal particles to convince me that this thing really works. Fortunately I didn't find enough of them for a nervous breakdown to occur, but I admit to being surprised to see as much ferrous material as I did. Anyway, check it out. Happy Motoring! Jim'85TE
[url]www.thebeartrap.com/index.html[/url]
Here is a good device I'm using which doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I've used it for a couple of years and when I first did, as an experiment, I cut open the oil filter and saw enough metal particles to convince me that this thing really works. Fortunately I didn't find enough of them for a nervous breakdown to occur, but I admit to being surprised to see as much ferrous material as I did. Anyway, check it out. Happy Motoring! Jim'85TE
[url]www.thebeartrap.com/index.html[/url]
Calvin-
I don't know how to test them. I've heard blurbs on testing them but not sure if this is too big of a job for me. If you could walk me through it, I'd appreciate it.
KM-
I've reset the ECM, changed plugs, checked wire connections and all other connections. All seems okay except for the rough idling is still there. I also feel like there's a loss of power at the higher revs... that could just be my perception. I can only think of the injectors as the problem...
Jim-
That Re-usable magnetic pad just fits right in without a problem?? Do you still use it on your Esprit or is there no need for it?
Thanks,
ED-
I don't know how to test them. I've heard blurbs on testing them but not sure if this is too big of a job for me. If you could walk me through it, I'd appreciate it.
KM-
I've reset the ECM, changed plugs, checked wire connections and all other connections. All seems okay except for the rough idling is still there. I also feel like there's a loss of power at the higher revs... that could just be my perception. I can only think of the injectors as the problem...
Jim-
That Re-usable magnetic pad just fits right in without a problem?? Do you still use it on your Esprit or is there no need for it?
Thanks,
ED-
egomes said: Jim-
That Re-usable magnetic pad just fits right in without a problem?? Do you still use it on your Esprit or is there no need for it?
Thanks,
ED-
Ed,
The pad fits around the filter externally and traps any ferrous particles in the filter. When you change the filter, you remove it from the old one and wrap it around the new one, so it essentially lasts forever.. Yes, I use it on my Esprit exclusively. Happy Motoring! Jim '85TE
The only problem is you have to remove them from the car. Once removed attach a pump that can propel liquid throgh the injectors. You should get a fine mist or spray. Sometimes when they are shot they will start to dribble drops or fan from just one side. Did you check or replace fuel filters? I hope the pick up screen in the tanks are not all gunked up.
Calvin
Calvin
Don't expect the V8 to idle like a normal V8... they don't. If you can confirm a rough idle compared to other V8s, I'd suggest having a cambelt service done (or check that one was done recently) and also check for vacuum leaks. The scan tool should let you "see" all the variables but if you are not getting a check engine light nothing is really badly off. You could try a can of Techroline in the tank and possibly see if changing gasoline brands makes a difference.
I have found that I get intermittant check engine lights if I use Shell Super Unleaded gasoline. If I use Chevron Supreme, I don't get the check engine light. That was fun to figure out....
Hope you area able to sort this out soon.
Regards, KM
2000 V8
I have found that I get intermittant check engine lights if I use Shell Super Unleaded gasoline. If I use Chevron Supreme, I don't get the check engine light. That was fun to figure out....
Hope you area able to sort this out soon.
Regards, KM
2000 V8
Ed,
One way to test injectors is to pull them from the manifold and hold them in a graduated cylinder (hold a rag over the top to prevent gas spraying all over, turning the key to 'on' and the injector will spray gas. You can loosely measure flow with this method.
Another way is to connect an Ohm meter to the two contacts of the injector. A relatively low resistance, say under 100 Ohms and they are probably OK. Any reading higher than say 200-300 Ohms and you probably have a bad injector. Hope this helps. Happy Motoring! Jim '85TE
>> Edited by lotusguy on Wednesday 29th January 05:12
One way to test injectors is to pull them from the manifold and hold them in a graduated cylinder (hold a rag over the top to prevent gas spraying all over, turning the key to 'on' and the injector will spray gas. You can loosely measure flow with this method.
Another way is to connect an Ohm meter to the two contacts of the injector. A relatively low resistance, say under 100 Ohms and they are probably OK. Any reading higher than say 200-300 Ohms and you probably have a bad injector. Hope this helps. Happy Motoring! Jim '85TE
>> Edited by lotusguy on Wednesday 29th January 05:12
egomes said: Jim-
Would a OBDII scan also detect a bad injector??
Ed-
Ed,
Yes, OBDII should detect a bad injector, in fact in several ways. It should detect the injector not firing and also detect excess fuel rail pressure. That is not to say it will detect a malfunctioning injector, just a non-functioning one. It may try to change operating parameters to make up for a malfunctioning (clogged, but still spraying, etc.) injector. Happy Motoring! Jim'85TE
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