Lotus Esprit as daily driver?

Lotus Esprit as daily driver?

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yellowtang

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1,779 posts

146 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Having today sold my XKR I've decided to try and buy my childhood dream car, namely a Lotus Esprit (preferably turbo). I had settled on a nearly new Elise S - great little car but I now want an Esprit even more....

I work from home and simply wasn't using the XKR enough to justify the £1000 a month depreciation any longer!

Am I mad to consider an Esprit as my only car? (wife also has a car). Which model to go for? Ideally I'd like to spend around £15k - is this realistic?

Finally, anyone have a car they'd like to sell me?!

(I've posted in GG because the Lotus forums here are pretty quiet.....)

CS Garth

2,870 posts

113 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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yellowtang said:
Having today sold my XKR I've decided to try and buy my childhood dream car, namely a Lotus Esprit (preferably turbo). I had settled on a nearly new Elise S - great little car but I now want an Esprit even more....

I work from home and simply wasn't using the XKR enough to justify the £1000 a month depreciation any longer!

Am I mad to consider an Esprit as my only car? (wife also has a car). Which model to go for? Ideally I'd like to spend around £15k - is this realistic?

Finally, anyone have a car they'd like to sell me?!

(I've posted in GG because the Lotus forums here are pretty quiet.....)
You're mental. But do it anyway otherwise you'll regret it

yellowtang

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1,779 posts

146 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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CS Garth said:
You're mental. But do it anyway otherwise you'll regret it
Yes, I am probably (definitely) mental! But there are so many great 80's/90's cars that I love and yet have never owned, just because of being sensible and worrying about reliability etc.

I'm now a father and need to set a good example for my son - life is for living and yes, I probably would regret it if I didn't do it smile

John D.

18,520 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Buying guide in this months Evo mag as it happens. Probably a sign prices are on the rise! The article says as much.


TR4man

5,321 posts

182 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Brilliant - just do it and keep us updated.

I know of two people who use their Stags as daily drivers and I can't imagine an Esprit would be any more insane.

In fact the Stags are very reliable albeit a bit thirsty.

Impasse

15,099 posts

249 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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There are so many models of Esprit available that it's almost impossible to give a definitive answer. Some will no doubt chip in soon with their own tales of woe, but they can only comment on the cars they've owned and driven. I've owned many and none have been unreliable, in fact they all benefit from regular use. I did the school run in one of mine for about two years.

Rule of thumb, the Esprit got better and more reliable with model and each year.
The later the car the easier it will be to live with and the 98my refresh onwards produced the most usable of the lot. However I'm not sure your budget will stretch that far. It's worth remembering that these are now classic cars and not a modern hatchback.

ziggy328

1,080 posts

222 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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I had a 1986 original shape 25th Anniversary Edition in immaculate condition. There is still no way you could use that as a daily - not in a million years. Had a life of it's own, too hard to change gear (as a daily) and you can't see sod all.

As stated newer the better. As also stated, you're mental to consider it.

yellowtang

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1,779 posts

146 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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John D. said:
Buying guide in this months Evo mag as it happens. Probably a sign prices are on the rise! The article says as much.

Great, I'll take a look. Cheers smile

Impasse

15,099 posts

249 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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yellowtang said:

Great, I'll take a look. Cheers smile
Take note of the website they used to gather their information for that piece, then log on and join up.

yellowtang

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146 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Impasse said:
Take note of the website they used to gather their information for that piece, then log on and join up.
Will do, cheers.

Thanks for your previous post too - there are very few cars for sale at present but I certainly don't imagine my budget will get anywhere near a 98' onwards car. Are the Stevens models particularly unreliable? They seem about the best value?

Jasandjules

70,532 posts

237 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Well, it is probably a very stupid idea. But hey, life is for living so go for it.

It may even be a happier car if driven more frequently...

Deendog

168 posts

128 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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You probably could but.... Pre 93 will have no PAS. Gearbox can be very awkward at low speed making traffic a stressful event. Visibility is pretty terrible which makes parking exciting.

On the plus side, mpg is surprisingly good. From experience over the last year, parts on 4 cylinder cars tend to be in plentiful supply and reasonably priced. V8 cars seem to use a number of bespoke (and very expensive) items.

S4S seems to be best compromise between running costs and performance/reliability

If you are capable of a bit of diy / re-attaching errant trim then could just about Run one as a daily.

I have run 2x Elise as daily in the past. The esprit would be a whole new level of stress on a daily basis.

That said it would be quite an 'event' every day

Good luck!

DonkeyApple

59,338 posts

177 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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John D. said:
Buying guide in this months Evo mag as it happens. Probably a sign prices are on the rise! The article says as much.
I was about to say that the mega boom has so far passed these cars by and that in the current market they represent fantastic value for the smaller gent.

Benbay001

5,812 posts

165 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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I ran an Excel daily for a year.
It was fine.
Cant see why an esprit would be different?
Will it be garaged? My Excel leaked a little.

Maybe a £500 snotter for the months of the year that they grit?

so called

9,130 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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I bought a TVR Tasmin as a daily a few years back.
I think the original Esprit and the Tasmin were both designed by Oliver Winterbottom.

Tasmin was great fun and never broke down. Lots of continental runs in it.
Do it or regret it.

yellowtang

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1,779 posts

146 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Interesting responses!

I live in a Somerset village and rarely go into the city, in fact, Bath is my local city and I rarely took the XKR there due to parking it - that's what the wife's car is for wink

If I want to stay anywhere near the budget I may have to downgrade my expectations to a non turbo, unless an S4 can be found. There is a V8 in Holland for £20k...........

so called

9,130 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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yellowtang said:
Interesting responses!

I live in a Somerset village and rarely go into the city, in fact, Bath is my local city and I rarely took the XKR there due to parking it - that's what the wife's car is for wink

If I want to stay anywhere near the budget I may have to downgrade my expectations to a non turbo, unless an S4 can be found. There is a V8 in Holland for £20k...........
Is that at Target cars ?
They quite often have Insurance Cat damaged cars, so call before you go.

yellowtang

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1,779 posts

146 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Hi Ben

I remember your Excel - what do you have now?

I would need to clear the garage but in theory, yes it can be garaged.

e21Mark

16,360 posts

181 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Do it. Always better to regret stuff we do, as opposed to stuff we don't. I used my E30 M3 track car as a daily for a year so see no reason why an Esprit wouldn't be up to the task.

I drove a white 1988 Esprit many years ago and it was a wonderful experience. When my lotto win comes I aim to build a V8 S1 car, tongue out

yellowtang

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146 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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so called said:
Is that at Target cars ?
They quite often have Insurance Cat damaged cars, so call before you go.
Yes, it's a cat D but I can't see a lot wrong with it? I wonder if being a Cat D really matters on this type of car - it's a modern classic now anyway. Mind you, I can't really imagine getting an inspection carried out is going to be easy to arrange and whichever car I buy, I'll need an inspection carried out because I know bugger all!

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