Help Flushing Coolant: Brand/Ratio/Tips/Amount/ETC

Help Flushing Coolant: Brand/Ratio/Tips/Amount/ETC

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karmavore

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696 posts

260 months

Saturday 27th November 2004
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I noticed some wild temperature swings yesterday (on a very cold after a short but very spirited run) which incidentally don't match what Freescan says (i.e., the fans come on at about 92 when the gauge reads over 100. very odd), but anyway...

I noticed that my header and expansion tanks are almost empty. The tank is also filled with a lot of pink deposits on the walls. Is this typical?

Anyway, I think I'll flush it. I have the service notes, but I don't know what coolant product is best, how much to buy, and was hoping you all might have other tips.

I appreciate it!

Luke.

karmavore

Original Poster:

696 posts

260 months

Sunday 28th November 2004
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Anybody....??

How the hell do you get to the drian plug? I can't see how it is possible with out removing the bumper, shroud, coolant lines...

Luke.

Dr.Hess

837 posts

255 months

Sunday 28th November 2004
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I like Toyota Red fluid, 1/3 ratio and some water wetter.

karmavore

Original Poster:

696 posts

260 months

Sunday 28th November 2004
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Thanks doc, but how do you drian it?

Dr.Hess

837 posts

255 months

Sunday 28th November 2004
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There is a drain on the radiator. Just not real easy to see. You could also pull the bottom hose at the radiator.

Dr.Hess

karmavore

Original Poster:

696 posts

260 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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What a pain in the ass. I spent most of the day on this and only got about half way done. I also managed to splash antifreeze in my face and get it all over my garage floor. Fun.

What I ended up doing (because that drain plug is a sick joke) is:

1) Disconnecting the passenger's (right side) radiator hose and opening the header tank cap and draining as much as I could.

2) Turning the engine on and letting the water pump flush out even more.

3) Refitting the hose and opening the air bleed bolt on the top left side of the radiator and flushing the system with water until the fluid coming out of the radiator was clear.

3) Refitting the bolt and adding two bottles of Prestone Cooling System Flush.

4) Running the car for 15 minutes.

..this is where I am now. I have not removed the cleaning fluid and won't for two weeks until I return to my garage.

I plan on flushing a couple more times with water (distilled) and then adding a mixture of coolant/water and water wetter and hoping for the best.

Luke.

Dr.Hess

837 posts

255 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Someone once suggested hooking a wet & dry shop vac to the hose and sucking the coolant out that way. Seems like a good idea to me. Also, take a garden hose with a high pressure nozzle on the end and blast out the funk from the back side of the radiator. That made all the difference in the world for me.

Dr.Hess

kmaier

490 posts

275 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Yes, drain plug is a pain to get to... I drilled a small hole inline with the plug in the glass duct so I can slip a 1/4-inch socket extension thru then put a 10mm socket on it and remove it. Works fine but can be messy.

I use a mity-vac (7 liter capacity) and drain coolant from the header tank first, then via the rear bleed screw on the V8 engine downpipe and finally via the bleed plug on the radiator. This easily gets the bulk of the coolant out and limits the mess. Dropping the hoses is the last part and you just get wet in the process.

I finally switched over to Mercedes-Benz antifreeze mixed at 1:3 with distilled water. I was using Prestone green but in 3 years (and 4 coolants swaps) I have had far too many deposits and other crud... the coolant level sensor in the header tank literally clogged up with gunk recently and the light came on. Yet, my 1993 Benz has had 2-3 year coolant swaps since new and is still clean and deposit free and the car has an alloy radiator and head on a cast iron block. I'm hoping for better results on the Esprit with the swap.

Regards, KM
2000 V8

karmavore

Original Poster:

696 posts

260 months

Monday 29th November 2004
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Thanks fellas. I just realized that I left the car for two weeks with nothing but water and some system flush running through the cooling system ...and it's getting cold outside. Lets hope it doesn't freeze!

Luke.

Squelch

94 posts

281 months

Tuesday 30th November 2004
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I recommend the Toyota coolant as well. It is intended to be used in enviroments with a high amount of aluminum.

As for the temp swings, remember that the coolant temp sensor that feeds the ECM is not the same sensor that feeds the guage, they are in different places sampling different flows of coolant.

Dr.Hess

837 posts

255 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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I did this two days ago. Used 1 gal Toyota red, about 10 bucks, and 2 gal distilled water, about a dollar. With a charge cooler, I would budget an extra gallon of each. Not sure how much more coolant you need, but it will certainly be more than 1 gallon and less than 2 and they only sell it by the gallon.

http://karmavore.net/images/SH20040712/SH20040712002.jpg
Man, Luke, you paid $7.50 a quart for Mobil 1? And bought an extra quart as well? My car takes 6 quarts. I think I could drive down to Wally World, buy you 6 quarts, send it to you Fed Ex and still come out ahead at those prices. And $26.52 for an oil filter? WIX are like $6. Guess you have to pay to worship at Mecca.

Dr.Hess
'89 non-SE


>> Edited by Dr.Hess on Wednesday 15th December 22:26

karmavore

Original Poster:

696 posts

260 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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That's why that dealer sucks and I'm trying to do more of my own work now.

I've always done my own oil changes though, not sure why I let them do it that time.

The S4 service manual says 7.x quarts of coolent for a 25% ratio.

Luke.