Snowboard Bindings
Discussion
I have been boarding for almost 10 years now and i am at best a below average boarder. However living so close to the alps has helped me improve a great deal over the last year.
I currently have Flow bindings on a very old Burton board. I need to change the bindings before the season starts in a months time.
A friend as recommended Burton Cartels but looking online they seem to have weakish straps and ratchets. This could just be that people only go online to complain about stuff and not praise it. Do you lot have any recommendations for a average boarder who is wanting to improve his game?
I dont mind last years stock and dont really want to spend more than 150 GBP.
Cheers
LP
I currently have Flow bindings on a very old Burton board. I need to change the bindings before the season starts in a months time.
A friend as recommended Burton Cartels but looking online they seem to have weakish straps and ratchets. This could just be that people only go online to complain about stuff and not praise it. Do you lot have any recommendations for a average boarder who is wanting to improve his game?
I dont mind last years stock and dont really want to spend more than 150 GBP.
Cheers
LP
I had cartels on one of my 4 boards last year. Never broke a strap and I'm a heavy oaf who is pretty hard going on bindings 
They're not bad at all and I've have no problems using them. I'm using Burton Customs on my other board which are similar but cheaper and again no complaints. I've yet to bust a strap on either, and I normally spend quite a bit of time in the air / on rails / in the parks
Ride SPi are also worth mentioning, as you can get them for <150 quid and they're a really good binding.
They're not bad at all and I've have no problems using them. I'm using Burton Customs on my other board which are similar but cheaper and again no complaints. I've yet to bust a strap on either, and I normally spend quite a bit of time in the air / on rails / in the parks
Ride SPi are also worth mentioning, as you can get them for <150 quid and they're a really good binding. Burton Custom bindings every time.
Do not like flow.. used to bend quite easy - especially in the park.
I have pretty much exclusively riding Burtom Custom boards and bindings - rock solid, quick to get into, and infinitely customisable.
If its good enough for Terje, its good enough for me.... mind you shows my age!
Do not like flow.. used to bend quite easy - especially in the park.
I have pretty much exclusively riding Burtom Custom boards and bindings - rock solid, quick to get into, and infinitely customisable.
If its good enough for Terje, its good enough for me.... mind you shows my age!
http://www.boardshop.co.uk/product/836120wh.asp
£70, should be just fine for a season or three.
Burton stuff is typically quite expensive for what you get, not that it's bad kit, just a tad overpriced IMO.
I wouldnt agonise too much over bindings, so long as they hold your boot in place and are comfy that's all you need. Unless you're a bit of a tart and want all the logos and whizzy designs.
I've got a pair of middle-of-the-road burton bindings that I bought from some overpriced shop because its what they had in stock. Cost about £150-ish and have lasted fine for 10-12 weeks on the snow over the last 3 or 4 years. They are probably going to outlast my current board.
£70, should be just fine for a season or three.
Burton stuff is typically quite expensive for what you get, not that it's bad kit, just a tad overpriced IMO.
I wouldnt agonise too much over bindings, so long as they hold your boot in place and are comfy that's all you need. Unless you're a bit of a tart and want all the logos and whizzy designs.
I've got a pair of middle-of-the-road burton bindings that I bought from some overpriced shop because its what they had in stock. Cost about £150-ish and have lasted fine for 10-12 weeks on the snow over the last 3 or 4 years. They are probably going to outlast my current board.
I've been riding Cartels my last 2 seasons, I've landed pretty heavy on them, managed to snap my board on a 60 footer but the bindings held firm. Recommended, the base plates come with lifetime guarantee and all Burton binding are easy to get spares for.
I'd recommended going on the snowboardclub.co.uk website, in the for sale section there's always some bargain bindings to be had for good prices.
Edited...
As another Internationally qualified Instructor I thoroughly recommend Burton
I'd recommended going on the snowboardclub.co.uk website, in the for sale section there's always some bargain bindings to be had for good prices.
Edited...
As another Internationally qualified Instructor I thoroughly recommend Burton
Edited by Jackpot on Friday 9th October 09:36
Just out of interest, why is everyone suggesting expensive and high-end kit to someone who by his own admission is "at best, below average" in ability and by the sounds of it would like to save a couple of quid.
I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
I bought a pair of Flows similiar to this last year.
http://www.bargainboards.co.uk/P/Flow-M9-Snowboard...
I know plently of people don't like flows but there is somethings wonderful about not having to sit down to put on your bindings. Especially for those of us who are slightly old, fat and rubbish. I loved them.
http://www.bargainboards.co.uk/P/Flow-M9-Snowboard...
I know plently of people don't like flows but there is somethings wonderful about not having to sit down to put on your bindings. Especially for those of us who are slightly old, fat and rubbish. I loved them.
davido140 said:
Just out of interest, why is everyone suggesting expensive and high-end kit to someone who by his own admission is "at best, below average" in ability and by the sounds of it would like to save a couple of quid.
I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
He asked about straps breaking, surely a quick story of hard use with no problems afterwards can confirm that the bindings he is asking about are of a good quality, no?I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
I also pointed him in the way of a site that through my experience usually seems to have some bargains on offer.
No ridiculing needed!
davido140 said:
Just out of interest, why is everyone suggesting expensive and high-end kit to someone who by his own admission is "at best, below average" in ability and by the sounds of it would like to save a couple of quid.
I broke more equipment when I was at average-at-best skill levels and trying to progress than I do now considerable years on. It also gives some idea of how flimsy they are / are not. Price, as we all know - does not equate to quality.davido140 said:
Just out of interest, why is everyone suggesting expensive and high-end kit to someone who by his own admission is "at best, below average" in ability and by the sounds of it would like to save a couple of quid.
I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
I feel this is a good time to put a bit more information out on what i do and how not good i am.I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
I did my first flat rail earlier this year in killington and loved it. After that i had a day in the Alpes in the best powder i have seen in 10 years of boarding. My confidence and speed as really picked up this year but my experiances are dented by two things
My two main problems are foot pain and lack of feel and control. I find i really have to overexagerate my turns and almost "kick" the board into turning rather than the natural extension of my body it should be
The foot pain is normally relieved with large amounts of pain killers but i am thinnking its the bindings that are causing it.
Im not sure if the foot pain and lack of control is boots or bindings, but i have a pair of 4 year old Burton boots that feel confortable enough to be honest so im not that keen on changing them just yet. but i do get a fair amount of heel lift.
The other things with flows is that if you sat on your arse you cant do them up or get out of them. Which is a real pain if you in powder and cannot move about much.
Hope this helps.
Ps, money isnt much of an issue for the "right" bindings that solve all my problems
Stu R said:
davido140 said:
Just out of interest, why is everyone suggesting expensive and high-end kit to someone who by his own admission is "at best, below average" in ability and by the sounds of it would like to save a couple of quid.
I broke more bones when I was at average-at-best skill levels and trying to progress than I do now considerable years on. .Greenie said:
I bought a pair of Flows similiar to this last year.
http://www.bargainboards.co.uk/P/Flow-M9-Snowboard...
I know plently of people don't like flows but there is somethings wonderful about not having to sit down to put on your bindings. Especially for those of us who are slightly old, fat and rubbish. I loved them.
Thats the exact reason i bought them in the first place! easier to put on if your a little tubby and after a while you just kick into them and pull the backs up as your moving. http://www.bargainboards.co.uk/P/Flow-M9-Snowboard...
I know plently of people don't like flows but there is somethings wonderful about not having to sit down to put on your bindings. Especially for those of us who are slightly old, fat and rubbish. I loved them.
Jackpot said:
davido140 said:
Just out of interest, why is everyone suggesting expensive and high-end kit to someone who by his own admission is "at best, below average" in ability and by the sounds of it would like to save a couple of quid.
I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
He asked about straps breaking, surely a quick story of hard use with no problems afterwards can confirm that the bindings he is asking about are of a good quality, no?I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
I also pointed him in the way of a site that through my experience usually seems to have some bargains on offer.
No ridiculing needed!
impressive! Lord Pikey said:
davido140 said:
Just out of interest, why is everyone suggesting expensive and high-end kit to someone who by his own admission is "at best, below average" in ability and by the sounds of it would like to save a couple of quid.
I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
I feel this is a good time to put a bit more information out on what i do and how not good i am.I dont think the ability to "land hard of a 60 footer" is very high on his list of requirements for these bindings.
Seems to me a half decent set of bindings in a sale that will last a couple of seasons whilst he learns a bit more would do just fine.
I did my first flat rail earlier this year in killington and loved it. After that i had a day in the Alpes in the best powder i have seen in 10 years of boarding. My confidence and speed as really picked up this year but my experiances are dented by two things
My two main problems are foot pain and lack of feel and control. I find i really have to overexagerate my turns and almost "kick" the board into turning rather than the natural extension of my body it should be
The foot pain is normally relieved with large amounts of pain killers but i am thinnking its the bindings that are causing it.
Im not sure if the foot pain and lack of control is boots or bindings, but i have a pair of 4 year old Burton boots that feel confortable enough to be honest so im not that keen on changing them just yet. but i do get a fair amount of heel lift.
The other things with flows is that if you sat on your arse you cant do them up or get out of them. Which is a real pain if you in powder and cannot move about much.
Hope this helps.
Ps, money isnt much of an issue for the "right" bindings that solve all my problems
In my experience achey feet is sometimes because boots or bindings are done up too tight, or stupid as this sounds you're wearing the wrong socks! When I got my current set of boots I had all kinds of achey feet issues, really quite agonising at times, I found getting some very good socks pretty much completely solved the issue.
If its blisters the boots are too loose or an incorrect fit.
It's possibly not the bindings that are the cause of the problem, could the heel lift you're experiencing be as a result of loosening the bindings to aleviate achey feet?
My two-penneth:
I've been riding for 11 years and did half a season in 2007. In that time I've tried Flows, Burtons and Ride.
Flows, IMHO are great for learning but not much else (Too heavy and hard to adjust). But, that was a long time ago and they've no doubt improved since 98/99.
Burton make great bindings, and I've been very happy with the weight, feel and adjustability (what you need to prevent foot pain). However I have encountered a broken strap (on a Cartel). Cable ties are your friend when this happens!
I recently bought Ride bindings for my girlfriend and was very pleased by the design. The stretchy toe cap strap is great, they're very durable, easy to adjust and very light.
Can you get to a shop to try a few out? I'd say that with Burton boots, you'll find a good match in either the Burton or Ride bindings. Toe Cap straps have made traditional bindings so much more comfortable. IMO, the time saved in strapping in with traditional and flows is negligible.
I've been riding for 11 years and did half a season in 2007. In that time I've tried Flows, Burtons and Ride.
Flows, IMHO are great for learning but not much else (Too heavy and hard to adjust). But, that was a long time ago and they've no doubt improved since 98/99.
Burton make great bindings, and I've been very happy with the weight, feel and adjustability (what you need to prevent foot pain). However I have encountered a broken strap (on a Cartel). Cable ties are your friend when this happens!
I recently bought Ride bindings for my girlfriend and was very pleased by the design. The stretchy toe cap strap is great, they're very durable, easy to adjust and very light.
Can you get to a shop to try a few out? I'd say that with Burton boots, you'll find a good match in either the Burton or Ride bindings. Toe Cap straps have made traditional bindings so much more comfortable. IMO, the time saved in strapping in with traditional and flows is negligible.
Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff