Super Six Boxing
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Anyone else looking forward to this?
http://sports.sho.com/world-boxing-classic.html
Great line up, nice to see two champs putting their belts on the line too.
http://sports.sho.com/world-boxing-classic.html
Great line up, nice to see two champs putting their belts on the line too.
kessler surely is the man here but it will get interesting when we see what abraham can bring up from middle.i like froch but i can`t see his wildness beating a measured kessler.i don`t think taylor can do much here and i don`t know enough about the other 2 lads to comment with conviction.obviously good pedigree though.boxing needs more of this
I always feel as though Taylor is wasted talent. He should never of lost to Pavlik the first time around as he should of pressed the fight when he put Pavlik on the canvas and had him hurt and the same goes for the Froch fight. For the first 6 rounds he was in complete control but he has severe stamina issues. Anyone who pressures him or throws alot of punches will always cause him trouble as far as I'm concerned.
If I had to put money on someone to win I would bet on Kessler without a shadow of a doubt.
If I had to put money on someone to win I would bet on Kessler without a shadow of a doubt.
Yet again anyone without Murdoch TV has been shafted. I am ready to pay to watch a legit stream but there isn't one! Will be battling it out with the wasters on the unofficial streams 
I want Froch to win this tournament - I truly believe if he does he will have elevated himself above Calzaghe. The only person who is not here is Bute but he's kind of been left behind and made himself irrelevant by not being involved even if he can mix it with these guys. Regarding Froch I know it looks a tall order but most of the pundits in his previous couple of fights have swayed to the side of 'well I think this could be the night he doesn't quite match up' and then he wins again.
Dirrell looks the better boxer on paper - younger, faster etc. and I think he will wow the judges in rounds 1-3 with his zip. Froch will then drag him down into the trenches by his ankles and bludgeon him in his usual fashion. The problem is the 'take 2 to give 1' approach is going to fail at some point; let's hope it's far beyond this tournament when that happens.
I want Froch to win this tournament - I truly believe if he does he will have elevated himself above Calzaghe. The only person who is not here is Bute but he's kind of been left behind and made himself irrelevant by not being involved even if he can mix it with these guys. Regarding Froch I know it looks a tall order but most of the pundits in his previous couple of fights have swayed to the side of 'well I think this could be the night he doesn't quite match up' and then he wins again.
Dirrell looks the better boxer on paper - younger, faster etc. and I think he will wow the judges in rounds 1-3 with his zip. Froch will then drag him down into the trenches by his ankles and bludgeon him in his usual fashion. The problem is the 'take 2 to give 1' approach is going to fail at some point; let's hope it's far beyond this tournament when that happens.
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I want Froch to win this tournament - I truly believe if he does he will have elevated himself above Calzaghe. The only person who is not here is Bute but he's kind of been left behind and made himself irrelevant by not being involved even if he can mix it with these guys. Regarding Froch I know it looks a tall order but most of the pundits in his previous couple of fights have swayed to the side of 'well I think this could be the night he doesn't quite match up' and then he wins again.
I don't doubt that this would boost his stock if he wins but I don't think he's anywhere near the level of Calzaghe at the moment and if they had ever of though I reckon Calzaghe would of gave him a boxing lesson.
I'd like to see Froch do fairly well but I just don't see him getting past the likes of Kessler.
I want Froch to win this tournament - I truly believe if he does he will have elevated himself above Calzaghe. The only person who is not here is Bute but he's kind of been left behind and made himself irrelevant by not being involved even if he can mix it with these guys. Regarding Froch I know it looks a tall order but most of the pundits in his previous couple of fights have swayed to the side of 'well I think this could be the night he doesn't quite match up' and then he wins again.
I don't doubt that this would boost his stock if he wins but I don't think he's anywhere near the level of Calzaghe at the moment and if they had ever of though I reckon Calzaghe would of gave him a boxing lesson.
I'd like to see Froch do fairly well but I just don't see him getting past the likes of Kessler.
watching froch reminds me of those guys from the 50`s like graziano and zale and la motta.superb to watch but ultimately the guile of a calzaghe or a prime jones wins those sorts of affairs.while this dirrel kid is largely untested his amateur creds are definately eyebrow raising.unbeaten as a pro....remember when everyone said froch was untested?every boxer is untested at some point in their career.hope froch comes through it and my gut feel is a kessler/froch or kessler/abraham final
So, Froch v Dirrell this weekend and once again the poor bloke can't get a slot on ITV or Sky. Is there a more exciting British boxer around at the moment? I don't think so, his last fights against Taylor and Pascal were simply sensational.
I haven't seen anything of Dirrell though - thoughts on how this will go?
I haven't seen anything of Dirrell though - thoughts on how this will go?
Who knows! Dirrell is a young and up-coming fighter who likes to switch his stance from Southpaw to Orthodox very quickly and effectively when he goes on the attack. Something to think about though, Froch's fight with Taylor proves that he can be outboxed by a slick fighter but Froch will keep walking forwards whilst throwing punches with conviction.
It's not a fight I'd like to call as I don't really know enough about either of them. Froch has the potential to knock Dirrell out and Dirrell has the potential to outbox Froch.
I'd also watch the Abraham vs Taylor fight this weekend too. Abraham is a warrior with good power and a solid chin and Taylor is a slick boxer with great skill who is often let down by his stamina issues. The only saving grace in this fight for Taylor is that Abraham isn't a volume puncher and Taylor has apparently been working on his stamina. Doesn't mean he'll show up any different to his last few outings though!
The great thing about the Super Six tournament is that they have got a fantastic selection of fighters so it's almost impossible to call each fight.
My money is still on Kessler to win the competition though as he's fought the better competition and aside from the Calzaghe fight, he's hardly lost a round to anyone which is pretty impressive when you consider his opposition.
It's not a fight I'd like to call as I don't really know enough about either of them. Froch has the potential to knock Dirrell out and Dirrell has the potential to outbox Froch.
I'd also watch the Abraham vs Taylor fight this weekend too. Abraham is a warrior with good power and a solid chin and Taylor is a slick boxer with great skill who is often let down by his stamina issues. The only saving grace in this fight for Taylor is that Abraham isn't a volume puncher and Taylor has apparently been working on his stamina. Doesn't mean he'll show up any different to his last few outings though!
The great thing about the Super Six tournament is that they have got a fantastic selection of fighters so it's almost impossible to call each fight.
My money is still on Kessler to win the competition though as he's fought the better competition and aside from the Calzaghe fight, he's hardly lost a round to anyone which is pretty impressive when you consider his opposition.
Slightly off topic I know. But nottingham city centre is already covered in police.. Must be expecting a lively day. What with forests biggest game of the year and then Froch..
ETA that the fight is on tele.. Sky channel 480. A few pubs in nottignham will be showing it.
ETA that the fight is on tele.. Sky channel 480. A few pubs in nottignham will be showing it.
Edited by Devilstreak on Saturday 17th October 08:15
Dirrell hasn't fought at even close to this level before and for that reason I predict Froch is going to stop him. I don't think Froch is particularly good but he does have excellent stamina, an iron chin and decent power. Dirrell will try to outbox him and win by UD.
For the winner of the whole thing I'm going for Jermain Taylor, he's the best boxer in it plus I think he will have learnt his lesson from the last Froch fight and won't fade so badly again.
For the winner of the whole thing I'm going for Jermain Taylor, he's the best boxer in it plus I think he will have learnt his lesson from the last Froch fight and won't fade so badly again.
Well I reckon Froch was lucky to walk away with the win. He didn't land cleanly all night and was trying to rough house Dirrell all night long but Dirrell got deducted a point for holding? Having said that, Dirrell didn't engage too well either but he did start landing abit cleaner in the 10,11 and 12th rounds.
It's a fight that could be scored either way and I wouldn't have complained if Dirrell had got the nod instead.
Abraham was very calm and methodical against Taylor who boxed well early on but heading into the 12th, I had Abraham well up on the cards. Abraham finished the show with a huge straight right that had taylor out cold before he hit the canvas.
Abraham is looking good in this competition!
Now for some sleep..
It's a fight that could be scored either way and I wouldn't have complained if Dirrell had got the nod instead.
Abraham was very calm and methodical against Taylor who boxed well early on but heading into the 12th, I had Abraham well up on the cards. Abraham finished the show with a huge straight right that had taylor out cold before he hit the canvas.
Abraham is looking good in this competition!
Now for some sleep..
Lucky Froch - could have gone either way. Not sure if the judges were swayed by the home crowd and Froch's desire to at least be the aggressor. Dirrel was on his bike and spoiling for 9 out of the 12 rounds and only really opened up for the last 3 - even then it was only in bursts. Can't really recall anything of note from Froch for the whole 12 rounds. Bit of an anti-climax to be honest after some very entertaining Froch fights over the last couple of years ( and the hype around this ).
Dirrel very slick and fast but really needs to be more on the front foot and aggressive if he's going to do anything in this series. When he did engage he looked dangerous.
Froch will hopefully be better against a come forward opponent.
Abraham looked solid defensively and powerful coming forward - a real tank of a fighter......
Dirrel very slick and fast but really needs to be more on the front foot and aggressive if he's going to do anything in this series. When he did engage he looked dangerous.
Froch will hopefully be better against a come forward opponent.
Abraham looked solid defensively and powerful coming forward - a real tank of a fighter......
130R said:
For the winner of the whole thing I'm going for Jermain Taylor, he's the best boxer in it plus I think he will have learnt his lesson from the last Froch fight and won't fade so badly again.
And sure enough I am completely wrong and exactly the same thing happens again 
Abraham does look good though
i wouldn`t say froch was lucky.close fight but you don`t nick world titles.i can see the similarities with the jones comparison apart from one thing.rjj used to be an offensive master,throwing loads of well placed spiteful shots.dirrell didn`t.i got the feeling he doesn`t trust his own chin.i kept hearing the wil o the wisp comments but again,go and watch some footage of wil o the wisp himself willie pep.elusive to the point of frustration but always scoring points.you cannot win a world title on the back foot all night.the mention of herol graham made me smile.i remember talking to chris eubank a few years ago and cheekily asking him why he never fought the bomber.his response-"why didn`t i fight herol graham?let me tell you about that man,you could take a handful of rice and throw it at him and he wouldn`t get hit by a single grain.that is why i never fought herol graham" refreshingly honest and very funny.
arthur abraham doesn`t look too spectacular but is ruthlessly efficient.starting to make the pre tournament odds of 7-1 against to win look a bit too long.
arthur abraham doesn`t look too spectacular but is ruthlessly efficient.starting to make the pre tournament odds of 7-1 against to win look a bit too long.
I see the yanks were screaming 'hometown decision' - although the referee was Panamanian & 1 judge was Mexican with the other 2 judges being latin european 
Still, if anyone knows how to do a 'hometowner' its the sceptics.
The 1st Holyfield v Lewis fight dances before my eyes...
Still, if anyone knows how to do a 'hometowner' its the sceptics.
The 1st Holyfield v Lewis fight dances before my eyes...
Edited by im on Monday 19th October 09:18
im said:
The 1st Holyfield v Lewis fight dances before my eyes...
A classic draw! The female American judge claims she couldn't see what was happening so gave the fight to Holyfield, and then Brit Larry gives the final round to Holyfield which draws the fight.I remember being sat dumbfounded at the back of the Garden for what seemed like hours!
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