UEFA charge Eduardo for Diving!
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Well its about damned time!!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_55197...
This is part of the game that really needs to be addressed! Goodto see UEFA doing something right for a change!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_55197...
This is part of the game that really needs to be addressed! Goodto see UEFA doing something right for a change!
Edited by Spiritual_Beggar on Friday 28th August 13:00
He is such in insufferable 
!!!
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger called the decision a "complete disgrace".
"It singles out a player to be a cheat and that is not acceptable. We will not accept the way Uefa have treated this."
If Eduardo is suspended he would miss Standard Liege away on 16 September and the home match with Olympiacos on 29 September.
And Wenger added: "I believe you can debate whether it is a penalty or not. But this charge implies that with intent and with a desire to cheat the referee, Eduardo did act.
The complete disgrace is you and your cheating team!
Great manager but a complete and utter st of a man.
!!!Gunners boss Arsene Wenger called the decision a "complete disgrace".
"It singles out a player to be a cheat and that is not acceptable. We will not accept the way Uefa have treated this."
If Eduardo is suspended he would miss Standard Liege away on 16 September and the home match with Olympiacos on 29 September.
And Wenger added: "I believe you can debate whether it is a penalty or not. But this charge implies that with intent and with a desire to cheat the referee, Eduardo did act.
The complete disgrace is you and your cheating team!
Great manager but a complete and utter s
t of a man.mickk said:
Lets hope the rest of the Premiership sits up and takes notice.
It’s very simple and I’ve been saying this for years now: after every game, it is analysed on video buy a panel of FA/UEFA officials. Any diving is then awarded with a retrospective red card, the same as when an off the ball elbow/punch is spotted. Simples. That was a dive by Drogba, yes they got a penalty and scored and won the game, we can’t change that but he’s now suspended for 3 games. Will stop diving/cheating straight away.The technology is there - every game is analysed in detail by SKY after the event. I really can't see what the issue is with introducing this. It just seems so obvious. Clearly there is something very serious that I'm not aware of for this to not already occur.
BrabusMog said:
Soovy said:
Anyone caught diving should be banned for a season and not be paid.
There's no place for gayboy acting on a football pitch.
What about the chap that broke Eduardo's leg and put him out for a season? He got a four game ban, hardly a punishment that fits the crime.There's no place for gayboy acting on a football pitch.
k up! 
You have to award the punishment on the challenge, not on the result. Had Eduardo just got up and been fine, would it have been appropriate to award no punishment at all?
TEKNOPUG said:
It’s very simple and I’ve been saying this for years now: after every game, it is analysed on video buy a panel of FA/UEFA officials. Any diving is then awarded with a retrospective red card, the same as when an off the ball elbow/punch is spotted. Simples. That was a dive by Drogba, yes they got a penalty and scored and won the game, we can’t change that but he’s now suspended for 3 games. Will stop diving/cheating straight away.
In principle it is a good idea. But I don't think this would work.I will happily take a yellow card to prevent the build up to a move that could be dangerous. I have also cleaned someone out when they were on their way through to a one-on-one with our keeper. I knew I was going to be sent off for it, but I did it for my team. I know it is cheating, but it is something I felt I had to do at the time as we needed to win the game to win the league. It is the same principle in diving, get the penalty, win the game, get promoted/win the league/cup etc etc.
I think it would be a deterrent, but it would not end diving. Look at the idiots that still elbow off the ball. When the testosterone is pumping in some players they just don't think logically.
TEKNOPUG said:
mickk said:
Lets hope the rest of the Premiership sits up and takes notice.
It’s very simple and I’ve been saying this for years now: after every game, it is analysed on video buy a panel of FA/UEFA officials. Any diving is then awarded with a retrospective red card, the same as when an off the ball elbow/punch is spotted. Simples. That was a dive by Drogba, yes they got a penalty and scored and won the game, we can’t change that but he’s now suspended for 3 games. Will stop diving/cheating straight away.The technology is there - every game is analysed in detail by SKY after the event. I really can't see what the issue is with introducing this. It just seems so obvious. Clearly there is something very serious that I'm not aware of for this to not already occur.
Players from lower clubs and pub teams need to see action being taken against these players and then maybe will see a change.
Obviously i dont include Gerrard in this because he doesnt do that sort of thing.
I wouldn't advocate the use of replays during games. I believe in breaking up the flow of the game. The ref should still make the decisions in real-time, as he sees them. Yes people will still cheat and dive, professional fouls still happen, games will be won & lost because of it. However, if every player knows that he WILL get caught and he WILL get suspended for 3 games, there will be a lot less of it happening. Managers are certainly going to start having words with players if they start missing key games because of their cheating stupidity.
Every Prem game is fully televised, in fact, every professional game must have cameras as they always show all the goals. I don’t see what the issue is with this procedure? If player A punches player B and the ref doesn’t see it, he’ll still get punished after the game by the FA once they’ve looked at the video. I don’t see how diving (blatant cheating, corrupting the game and bringing it into disrepute) is any different?
Every Prem game is fully televised, in fact, every professional game must have cameras as they always show all the goals. I don’t see what the issue is with this procedure? If player A punches player B and the ref doesn’t see it, he’ll still get punished after the game by the FA once they’ve looked at the video. I don’t see how diving (blatant cheating, corrupting the game and bringing it into disrepute) is any different?
I think regardless of who you support, cheating just to win is unacceptable, there will be some on here who say that it's the winning that counts, nothing else matters. I say if that's the case it ain't football anymore. It's not the game I love so if we need to look retrospectively at incidents then so be it and I expect everyone in the game to support the stamping out of this cancer in the game. Including you Messrs Wenger, Ferguson, Benitez etc etc.... cos if you don't then how can we expect the players to?
pkitchen said:
I think regardless of who you support, cheating just to win is unacceptable, there will be some on here who say that it's the winning that counts, nothing else matters. I say if that's the case it ain't football anymore. It's not the game I love so if we need to look retrospectively at incidents then so be it and I expect everyone in the game to support the stamping out of this cancer in the game. Including you Messrs Wenger, Ferguson, Benitez etc etc.... cos if you don't then how can we expect the players to?
I'll buy that.Would be fairer if they'd said "we will retrospectively ban you" in July though, rather than after Eduardos horse had bolted
I believe the argument against using video replays is that it could not be brought in at every level of the game. It would be easy to do it for a Champions League match with half the world's TV cameras watching every move. Not so easy for a sunday afternoon game in the Isthmian League being watched by one man and his dog.
I agree that something needs to be brought in though, what is mopst important is that the right decision is made for what actually happened, rather than just relying on a split second decision from the referee, who is human and can get things wrong.
I agree that something needs to be brought in though, what is mopst important is that the right decision is made for what actually happened, rather than just relying on a split second decision from the referee, who is human and can get things wrong.
Top flight rugby has video replays without the need to have it in lower levels.
It's the CL and Prem/Championship games which get all the TV exposure, so that's what the kids watch.
Get the cheats banned for a few games and it will be sorted out eventually.
They need to get far more strict on penalising cheating. I am not just talking about diving but any deliberate foul play.
For example, you can't 'accidentally' pull someone's shirt - automatic red card every time - yes, red.
You don't 'accidentally' have your arms all round an opponent at dead ball situations - automatic yellow
Screaming in the ref's face - automatic yellow
My lads (U14s) talk about all this stuff at training. They see the pros getting away with it and don't understand why they aren't allowed to try it on.
It's the CL and Prem/Championship games which get all the TV exposure, so that's what the kids watch.
Get the cheats banned for a few games and it will be sorted out eventually.
They need to get far more strict on penalising cheating. I am not just talking about diving but any deliberate foul play.
For example, you can't 'accidentally' pull someone's shirt - automatic red card every time - yes, red.
You don't 'accidentally' have your arms all round an opponent at dead ball situations - automatic yellow
Screaming in the ref's face - automatic yellow
My lads (U14s) talk about all this stuff at training. They see the pros getting away with it and don't understand why they aren't allowed to try it on.
DocJock said:
My lads (U14s) talk about all this stuff at training. They see the pros getting away with it and don't understand why they aren't allowed to try it on.
Exactly. But it also starts with the junior league coaches. Some of the behaviour I have seen from 10/11 year olds on cricket fields this summer beggars belief ("sledging" etc) - and they wouldn't do it if their own coaches didn't allow it.Edited by Iain328 on Saturday 29th August 15:04
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