Shearer - Saviour or fall guy?

Shearer - Saviour or fall guy?

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The jiffle king

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7,031 posts

264 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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It looks like today the hero of St James Park will take over for their final 8 games....

Any views on how he might fare?

telecat

8,528 posts

247 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Personally I'd look at the date..........

The jiffle king

Original Poster:

7,031 posts

264 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Well If I've been caught, I hold my hands up, but so have Sky sports and the Dreary Mail...

And it seems all other media was in on the April Fool

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/04...

I still think it's real, maybe I'm a fool


JJCW

2,449 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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I took it as real - they were discussing it on radio 4 this morning, and its fairly big on the bbc site:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/n...

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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If its a hoax and everyones been sucked in the Newcastle fans will be burning effigies (spelling?) of Ashley by tea time hehe

staceyb

7,107 posts

230 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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I think this was announced late last night

sleep envy

62,260 posts

255 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Ashley's has lost the plot

hornetrider

63,161 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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sleep envy said:
Ashley's has lost the plot
A long time ago.

Republik

4,525 posts

196 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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I still think this is an April Fool's and will do until I see him sat on the bench in charge.

Edited by Republik on Wednesday 1st April 11:00

merseyboy

365 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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No its real !

I think its a great move by Ashley and Newcastle. With 9ish games to go, Newcastle need a guy not only passionate about football, but about Newcastle, who will do his all to keep the club in the prem because he loves the club, who can motivate the players, get the respect of the players and knows what he is doing.

If it will keep them up i don't know, but i think its a very good move although it could be interpreted as a bit of a pr stunt by Ashley if Newcastle go down.

Slagathore

5,935 posts

198 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Interesting - if it isn't an April Fool's Day joke!!

Luckyluciano

2,398 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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It looks like Iain Dowie will be joining him.

Ry_B

2,256 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Basically...he is in a win win situation and he knows it

If he can keep them up he will take all the glory, if they go down he will blame it on kinnear n co

f13ldy

1,432 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Ry_B said:
Basically...he is in a win win situation and he knows it

If he can keep them up he will take all the glory, if they go down he will blame it on kinnear n co
Yup he would have been more foolish to decline the offer.

He literally can't lose.

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Didn't Suart Pearce do a similar job at Forest once?

"He was appointed caretaker player-manager of Forest in December 1996 but, despite winning manager of the month in January 1997, the club were relegated from the Premier League. He opted to leave the club at the end of the 1996–97 season after twelve years at the City Ground."

Hmm, well it might work this time.



Edited by Fittster on Wednesday 1st April 15:42

im

34,302 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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f13ldy said:
Ry_B said:
Basically...he is in a win win situation and he knows it

If he can keep them up he will take all the glory, if they go down he will blame it on kinnear n co
Yup he would have been more foolish to decline the offer.

He literally can't lose.
Yes...yes he can lose, as you'll find out over the coming months.

He doesn't come across as all that astute on TV and when you add to this the fact that he hasn't managed in the big time before then you begin to wonder why ANYONE (even Geordies) think he'll do a good job for a club in SERIOUSLY deep do-do.

I'm baffled...wrong man at the wrong time. Somebody like Venables would have been a smarter move in the short-term.

He will of course get the 'Shearer bounce' effect - possibly for a game or 2 - but it wont last, he'll be found wanting very quickly by his betters who've all been there and know what is required.

All IMHO.

ray_von

2,920 posts

258 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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im said:
f13ldy said:
Ry_B said:
Basically...he is in a win win situation and he knows it

If he can keep them up he will take all the glory, if they go down he will blame it on kinnear n co
Yup he would have been more foolish to decline the offer.

He literally can't lose.
Yes...yes he can lose, as you'll find out over the coming months.

He doesn't come across as all that astute on TV and when you add to this the fact that he hasn't managed in the big time before then you begin to wonder why ANYONE (even Geordies) think he'll do a good job for a club in SERIOUSLY deep do-do.

I'm baffled...wrong man at the wrong time. Somebody like Venables would have been a smarter move in the short-term.

He will of course get the 'Shearer bounce' effect - possibly for a game or 2 - but it wont last, he'll be found wanting very quickly by his betters who've all been there and know what is required.

All IMHO.
Well IMHO the first two posters are quite correct. Poppins can't lose. Although I still can't believe ashley has picked another manager to try and win the fans over.
Didn't Shearer say not too long ago he wouldn't work for Newcastle whilst the present incumbents were in charge?

Republik

4,525 posts

196 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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I bet Ashley has offered him so much money he can't refuse.

merseyboy

365 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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im said:
f13ldy said:
Ry_B said:
Basically...he is in a win win situation and he knows it

If he can keep them up he will take all the glory, if they go down he will blame it on kinnear n co
Yup he would have been more foolish to decline the offer.

He literally can't lose.
Yes...yes he can lose, as you'll find out over the coming months.

He doesn't come across as all that astute on TV and when you add to this the fact that he hasn't managed in the big time before then you begin to wonder why ANYONE (even Geordies) think he'll do a good job for a club in SERIOUSLY deep do-do.

I'm baffled...wrong man at the wrong time. Somebody like Venables would have been a smarter move in the short-term.

He will of course get the 'Shearer bounce' effect - possibly for a game or 2 - but it wont last, he'll be found wanting very quickly by his betters who've all been there and know what is required.

All IMHO.
Terry Venables? You say Alan Shearer doesn't come across as astute on the tv (something i totally disgaree with) and then champion Terry Venables?

Why does everyone always think of Euro 96 when Terry Venables' name comes up and not the last 4 jobs he has had with Australia, Crystal Palace, Boro and Leeds where he has produced appalling managerial displays.

im

34,302 posts

223 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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merseyboy said:
Terry Venables? You say Alan Shearer doesn't come across as astute on the tv (something i totally disgaree with) and then champion Terry Venables?
Er...scratchchin...yep.


merseyboy said:
Why does everyone always think of Euro 96 when Terry Venables' name comes up and not the last 4 jobs he has had with Australia, Crystal Palace, Boro and Leeds where he has produced appalling managerial displays.
So your clubs waist high in effluent, who ya gonna call?

Venables Track Record

QPR: FA Cup final in 1982, and to the Second Division title the following season.

Barcelona: Spanish League title in 1985 and the League Cup the following season, when Barça lost in the European Cup final - beaten by Steaua Bucharest on penalties.

Tottenham Hotspur: FA Cup Winners

England: went all the way to the semi-finals of the Euro '96 tournament. Having beaten Holland 4-1 in the opening phase. - commonly regarded as one of the greatest England performances of modern times - and auld enemies Scotland, they went on to beat Spain on penalties before losing the same way to Germany, who went on to win the final.

Australia: Dsperately unlucky not to qualify for their first World Cup in 1998 under 'El Tel'.

Middlesbrough:His remit was to save the club from another quick return to Division One, and once more he was successful


Shearer's Track Record

Er...