Scolari sacked from Chelsea!

[Goughie]

My mate will be sad!

[Zod]

I suspect that Abramovich is getting bored of his toy and that Chelsea are going to have a hard time over the next few years.

[10 Pence Short]

Zod said:

I suspect that Abramovich is getting bored of his toy and that Chelsea are going to have a hard time over the next few years.

That's my opinion, too. Very silly to sack your manager at this point in the season unless you have serious issues beneath the surface. I would imagine the senior players have done for Scolari.

[Jasandjules]

Gosh, I can't believe how little I care.

Ah well.

[ukwill]

10 Pence Short said:

Zod said:

I suspect that Abramovich is getting bored of his toy and that Chelsea are going to have a hard time over the next few years.

That's my opinion, too. Very silly to sack your manager at this point in the season unless you have serious issues beneath the surface. I would imagine the senior players have done for Scolari.

Not really - it's not as if we have any chance of winning the league anymore after our pitiful run and home record this season. Our "fortress" is now anything but. Scolari didn't seem to have a Plan B. In fact, his Plan A seemed to be severely lacking.

There is a lot of dead wood that Chelsea need to offload in the summer. Drogba/Malouda/Kalou/Mikel would be the first to be offloaded on my list.

[Rags]

Not bad for 6 months work, sure he will receive a handsome payout as well.

Football is getting ridiculous.

No one will want that job however even if you fail (in the eyes of the chairman) you won't ever go hungry.

My view on this is, unless a manager dies, you should never be allowed to sack 'mid season'..

Comedy at Stamford Bridge.

At least the potential candidates are there, Keegan, Adams, Jonathan Ross.....

[10 Pence Short]

ukwill said:

10 Pence Short said:

Zod said:

I suspect that Abramovich is getting bored of his toy and that Chelsea are going to have a hard time over the next few years.

That's my opinion, too. Very silly to sack your manager at this point in the season unless you have serious issues beneath the surface. I would imagine the senior players have done for Scolari.

Not really - it's not as if we have any chance of winning the league anymore after our pitiful run and home record this season. Our "fortress" is now anything but. Scolari didn't seem to have a Plan B. In fact, his Plan A seemed to be severely lacking.

There is a lot of dead wood that Chelsea need to offload in the summer. Drogba/Malouda/Kalou/Mikel would be the first to be offloaded on my list.

Looking at Scolari's record, I'm not so quick to jump down the road of blaming the manager. Chelsea's squad has shrunk and little of any quality has been brought in or home grown to develop it. I don't think that's down to the manager.

What I would think, were I a top coach aspiring to win the Champions League, is what on earth are Chelsea doing? 3 Managers getting great results all sacked within a couple of months of problems emerging. Who's in control at Chelsea?

[bromers2]

Rags said:

Not bad for 6 months work, sure he will receive a handsome payout as well.

Football is getting ridiculous.

No one will want that job however even if you fail (in the eyes of the chairman) you won't ever go hungry.

My view on this is, unless a manager dies, you should never be allowed to sack 'mid season'..

Comedy at Stamford Bridge.

At least the potential candidates are there, Keegan, Adams, Jonathan Ross.....

Clarkson for manager

[ukwill]

Rags said:

Not bad for 6 months work, sure he will receive a handsome payout as well.

Football is getting ridiculous.

No one will want that job however even if you fail (in the eyes of the chairman) you won't ever go hungry.

My view on this is, unless a manager dies, you should never be allowed to sack 'mid season'..

Comedy at Stamford Bridge.

At least the potential candidates are there, Keegan, Adams, Jonathan Ross.....

Footballs been ridiculous ever since the vast amounts of money have been involved, completely skewing the chances for 85% of the league to compete.

[fathomfive]

Rags said:

Not bad for 6 months work, sure he will receive a handsome payout as well.

Football is getting ridiculous.

No one will want that job however even if you fail (in the eyes of the chairman) you won't ever go hungry.

My view on this is, unless a manager dies, you should never be allowed to sack 'mid season'..

Comedy at Stamford Bridge.

At least the potential candidates are there, Keegan, Adams, Jonathan Ross.....

You forgot Venables.

[ukwill]

10 Pence Short said:

ukwill said:

10 Pence Short said:

Zod said:

I suspect that Abramovich is getting bored of his toy and that Chelsea are going to have a hard time over the next few years.

That's my opinion, too. Very silly to sack your manager at this point in the season unless you have serious issues beneath the surface. I would imagine the senior players have done for Scolari.

Not really - it's not as if we have any chance of winning the league anymore after our pitiful run and home record this season. Our "fortress" is now anything but. Scolari didn't seem to have a Plan B. In fact, his Plan A seemed to be severely lacking.

There is a lot of dead wood that Chelsea need to offload in the summer. Drogba/Malouda/Kalou/Mikel would be the first to be offloaded on my list.

Looking at Scolari's record, I'm not so quick to jump down the road of blaming the manager. Chelsea's squad has shrunk and little of any quality has been brought in or home grown to develop it. I don't think that's down to the manager.

What I would think, were I a top coach aspiring to win the Champions League, is what on earth are Chelsea doing? 3 Managers getting great results all sacked within a couple of months of problems emerging. Who's in control at Chelsea?

Eh? Scolari has done far worse with the same squad that Jabba The Hut had last season. Chelsea have a squad that other managers could only dream of possessing. Yet apart from the 1st month or so of this season, they have looked largely toothless up front and have completely crumbled at the back. It's got to the point that if Lampard doesn't have a good game, Chelsea are effectively ste.

[fulham911club]

Jasandjules said:

Gosh, I can't believe how little I care.

Ah well.

Then why did you bother to type anything?

[Fittster]

Jasandjules said:

Gosh, I can't believe how little I care.

Ah well.

Just enough to post on the thread.

[10 Pence Short]

ukwill said:

10 Pence Short said:

ukwill said:

10 Pence Short said:

Zod said:

I suspect that Abramovich is getting bored of his toy and that Chelsea are going to have a hard time over the next few years.

That's my opinion, too. Very silly to sack your manager at this point in the season unless you have serious issues beneath the surface. I would imagine the senior players have done for Scolari.

Not really - it's not as if we have any chance of winning the league anymore after our pitiful run and home record this season. Our "fortress" is now anything but. Scolari didn't seem to have a Plan B. In fact, his Plan A seemed to be severely lacking.

There is a lot of dead wood that Chelsea need to offload in the summer. Drogba/Malouda/Kalou/Mikel would be the first to be offloaded on my list.

Looking at Scolari's record, I'm not so quick to jump down the road of blaming the manager. Chelsea's squad has shrunk and little of any quality has been brought in or home grown to develop it. I don't think that's down to the manager.

What I would think, were I a top coach aspiring to win the Champions League, is what on earth are Chelsea doing? 3 Managers getting great results all sacked within a couple of months of problems emerging. Who's in control at Chelsea?

Eh? Scolari has done far worse with the same squad that Jabba The Hut had last season. Chelsea have a squad that other managers could only dream of possessing. Yet apart from the 1st month or so of this season, they have looked largely toothless up front and have completely crumbled at the back. It's got to the point that if Lampard doesn't have a good game, Chelsea are effectively ste.

I sometimes think Chelsea fans forget the club existed before 2003.

Chelsea are 4th, 5 points clear of 5th, with the second best goal difference in the league, with one of your main defenders injured for most of the season, your main striker injured for most of the season and your main central midfielder still not back in action. You're still in the Champions League and only 7 points from the top spot (in 1998 Manchester United surrendered a much bigger lead to lose the title to Arsenal).

So what do you do? You sack your internationally applauded, incredibly successful World Cup winning manager mid season.

[largerandrock]

10 Pence Short said:

ukwill said:

10 Pence Short said:

ukwill said:

10 Pence Short said:

Zod said:

I suspect that Abramovich is getting bored of his toy and that Chelsea are going to have a hard time over the next few years.

That's my opinion, too. Very silly to sack your manager at this point in the season unless you have serious issues beneath the surface. I would imagine the senior players have done for Scolari.

Not really - it's not as if we have any chance of winning the league anymore after our pitiful run and home record this season. Our "fortress" is now anything but. Scolari didn't seem to have a Plan B. In fact, his Plan A seemed to be severely lacking.

There is a lot of dead wood that Chelsea need to offload in the summer. Drogba/Malouda/Kalou/Mikel would be the first to be offloaded on my list.

Looking at Scolari's record, I'm not so quick to jump down the road of blaming the manager. Chelsea's squad has shrunk and little of any quality has been brought in or home grown to develop it. I don't think that's down to the manager.

What I would think, were I a top coach aspiring to win the Champions League, is what on earth are Chelsea doing? 3 Managers getting great results all sacked within a couple of months of problems emerging. Who's in control at Chelsea?

Eh? Scolari has done far worse with the same squad that Jabba The Hut had last season. Chelsea have a squad that other managers could only dream of possessing. Yet apart from the 1st month or so of this season, they have looked largely toothless up front and have completely crumbled at the back. It's got to the point that if Lampard doesn't have a good game, Chelsea are effectively ste.

I sometimes think Chelsea fans forget the club existed before 2003.

Chelsea are 4th, 5 points clear of 5th, with the second best goal difference in the league, with one of your main defenders injured for most of the season, your main striker injured for most of the season and your main central midfielder still not back in action. You're still in the Champions League and only 7 points from the top spot (in 1998 Manchester United surrendered a much bigger lead to lose the title to Arsenal).

So what do you do? You sack your internationally applauded, incredibly successful World Cup winning manager mid season.

I know alot of chelsea fans but very few chelsea fans remember post 2003

85% Glory boys! and they wonder why no one likes them

[Parrot of Doom]

What a stupid time in a season to sack a manager. 4th place ffs.

Bye-bye Champion's League for Chelsea.

[anonymous-user]

At least he got free English lessons!

[ukwill]

10 Pence Short said:

ukwill said:

10 Pence Short said:

ukwill said:

10 Pence Short said:

Zod said:

I suspect that Abramovich is getting bored of his toy and that Chelsea are going to have a hard time over the next few years.

That's my opinion, too. Very silly to sack your manager at this point in the season unless you have serious issues beneath the surface. I would imagine the senior players have done for Scolari.

Not really - it's not as if we have any chance of winning the league anymore after our pitiful run and home record this season. Our "fortress" is now anything but. Scolari didn't seem to have a Plan B. In fact, his Plan A seemed to be severely lacking.

There is a lot of dead wood that Chelsea need to offload in the summer. Drogba/Malouda/Kalou/Mikel would be the first to be offloaded on my list.

Looking at Scolari's record, I'm not so quick to jump down the road of blaming the manager. Chelsea's squad has shrunk and little of any quality has been brought in or home grown to develop it. I don't think that's down to the manager.

What I would think, were I a top coach aspiring to win the Champions League, is what on earth are Chelsea doing? 3 Managers getting great results all sacked within a couple of months of problems emerging. Who's in control at Chelsea?

Eh? Scolari has done far worse with the same squad that Jabba The Hut had last season. Chelsea have a squad that other managers could only dream of possessing. Yet apart from the 1st month or so of this season, they have looked largely toothless up front and have completely crumbled at the back. It's got to the point that if Lampard doesn't have a good game, Chelsea are effectively ste.

I sometimes think Chelsea fans forget the club existed before 2003.

Chelsea are 4th, 5 points clear of 5th, with the second best goal difference in the league, with one of your main defenders injured for most of the season, your main striker injured for most of the season and your main central midfielder still not back in action. You're still in the Champions League and only 7 points from the top spot (in 1998 Manchester United surrendered a much bigger lead to lose the title to Arsenal).

So what do you do? You sack your internationally applauded, incredibly successful World Cup winning manager mid season.

This is true. I stopped my season ticket when Bates fired Vialli - Chelsea have a long and cherished history of shooting themselves in the foot. Nothing changes.

You should of course know by now that there are lies, damned lies and statistics. Just a cursory look at Chelsea's performance against the other title contenders this season would be enough to illustrate how far the team have gone backwards under Scolari's stewardship.

Let me say it again: Scolari has had the same squad that Grant had - Grant did better with the same players and got fired...

Chelsea's "problem" is that they had a quality manager but the Owner threw his toys. They haven't been the same side since.

To address your other points - Carvalho's been injured, but Alex and Ivanovic are both quality replacements - Alex has prooven himself on a number of occasions, Ivanovic wasn't Scolari's choice and doesn't seem to be as fancied. Essien has been a big loss, but to say Chelsea don't have quality in depth in midfield is ridiculous. Trouble is, Malouda is as useless as Faubert was for the Hammers (yet another ste French Player of The Year) and Ballack is more intent on strutting around as if he was on Strictly Come Dancing. We are only in the CL because we scraped through the qualifying stage - we play anything like we are in the league and we will be out asap. More worryingly we don't even look as if we have the ability to challenge for a CL spot next season.

Scolari hasn't proved himself in Europe at Club Level. That is still the case.

[10 Pence Short]

I agree/sympathise with your stance in part, though I am of the opinion Chelsea have, for the third time in 2 years, hastily sacked a manager. I wonder how much of this is down to the senior players refusing to work as requested with Mourinho/Grant/Scolari?

It's an oft cited example, but no less valid for it- Alex Ferguson was given 4 years at Manchester United without success, and we all know the rest. He has always been given complete control over footballing matters, too.

[ukwill]

10 Pence Short said:

I agree/sympathise with your stance in part, though I am of the opinion Chelsea have, for the third time in 2 years, hastily sacked a manager. I wonder how much of this is down to the senior players refusing to work as requested with Mourinho/Grant/Scolari?

It's an oft cited example, but no less valid for it- Alex Ferguson was given 4 years at Manchester United without success, and we all know the rest. He has always been given complete control over footballing matters, too.

Chelsea aren't alone in "hastily" firing managers. That is part and parcel of managing in the Premier League. There is far too much money involved to simply allow managers too long with poor results. That is the beast that has been allowed to grow. Blame Sky if you like, but Clubs have been happy to feed at the trough.

Your example of Alex Ferguson isn't really valid to the current day. I don't believe that ANY club in the Premiership would give a manager more than a season if results remained sub par, let alone 4 years.

Personally I think it has more to do with the Manager / Players relationship. I think it's likely that a number of key players lost their belief in the Manager. Rumours abound that this is the reason why Drogba has looked (and played) like a shadow of his former self.