Mike Tyson vs Brock Lesnar

Mike Tyson vs Brock Lesnar

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Vagabond

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380 posts

202 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Following on from the boxer vs MMA fighter, who would take this with a Tyson in his prime vs Brock Lesnar in his current form. This would be a freestyle fight with general MMA type rules applied.

Tyson was incredibly good at controlling much bigger fighters. He was able to move inside their reach and land massive body shots and big hooks and uppercuts, and his aggression and speed, as well as his head movement, kept him largely out of trouble and allowed him to negate any size or reach differences.

Tyson also had a good gas tank, but of course zero ground skills, kicks, or knees.

Lesnar is incredibly quick and very good at shooting in and taking people down. Very strong and agile as well, with a surprisingly good punch on him with his 82 inch reach.

Lesnar is very good at throwing knees from the clinch, though Tyson is also a beast in the clinch, able to throw massive body shots, and as the breakaway happens he uses his hand speed to connect with the head and get a knockout.

Tyson would be expecting a takedown attempt so would use probably move inside quickly and try and land some big shots. He would also be ready to throw a massive punch to try and knock Lesnar out if he went for the takedown. He would look to keep moving and make an takedowns difficult.

Lesnar has a good solid chin. I think he'd accept he is going to eat a big punch if he went for the takedown, but knowing it is his best shot would go for it anyway. It really depends how it landed, as once on the ground, if Lesnar wasnt knocked out or very badly hurt, Tysons fight would be over and he'd be ground 'n pounded into oblivion.

Would be such a cool matchup, Tyson's aggression and ability to get inside vs Lesnars speed and ability to get takedowns. The only unknown would be whether Lesnar could stand with Tyson and utilise his reach advantage and big right, but I think if he tried that Tyson would move inside him and demolish him.

I think we need a new PS3 game, with all the boxing greats vs all the MMA greats.

rich1231

17,331 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Isnt this the same as the Good boxer vs Martial artist thread?

anonymous-user

60 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Vagabond said:
Following on from the boxer vs MMA fighter, who would take this with a Tyson in his prime vs Brock Lesnar in his current form. This would be a freestyle fight with general MMA type rules applied.

Tyson was incredibly good at controlling much bigger fighters. He was able to move inside their reach and land massive body shots and big hooks and uppercuts, and his aggression and speed, as well as his head movement, kept him largely out of trouble and allowed him to negate any size or reach differences.

Tyson also had a good gas tank, but of course zero ground skills, kicks, or knees.

Lesnar is incredibly quick and very good at shooting in and taking people down. Very strong and agile as well, with a surprisingly good punch on him with his 82 inch reach.

Lesnar is very good at throwing knees from the clinch, though Tyson is also a beast in the clinch, able to throw massive body shots, and as the breakaway happens he uses his hand speed to connect with the head and get a knockout.

Tyson would be expecting a takedown attempt so would use probably move inside quickly and try and land some big shots. He would also be ready to throw a massive punch to try and knock Lesnar out if he went for the takedown. He would look to keep moving and make an takedowns difficult.

Lesnar has a good solid chin. I think he'd accept he is going to eat a big punch if he went for the takedown, but knowing it is his best shot would go for it anyway. It really depends how it landed, as once on the ground, if Lesnar wasnt knocked out or very badly hurt, Tysons fight would be over and he'd be ground 'n pounded into oblivion.

Would be such a cool matchup, Tyson's aggression and ability to get inside vs Lesnars speed and ability to get takedowns. The only unknown would be whether Lesnar could stand with Tyson and utilise his reach advantage and big right, but I think if he tried that Tyson would move inside him and demolish him.

I think we need a new PS3 game, with all the boxing greats vs all the MMA greats.
I think somebody needs a lady friend!!

nick s

1,371 posts

223 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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i'd say Tyson, i'm still adamant that there'd be no-one capable of beating him in a no holds barred street fight. The mans an animal!

Stu R

21,410 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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nick s said:
i'd say Tyson, i'm still adamant that there'd be no-one capable of beating him in a no holds barred street fight. The mans an animal!
unfortunately MMA isn't no holds barred. Tyson would be flat on his arse before he could decide which ear to bite.

Dirty Boy

14,738 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Stu R said:
nick s said:
i'd say Tyson, i'm still adamant that there'd be no-one capable of beating him in a no holds barred street fight. The mans an animal!
unfortunately MMA isn't no holds barred. Tyson would be flat on his arse before he could decide which ear to bite.
He'd bite something though

gti-ted

1,025 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Nah Tyson would of knocked Lesnar into next week..

Edited by gti-ted on Wednesday 3rd December 10:05

BAHN-STORMA

2,715 posts

196 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Dirty Boy said:
Stu R said:
nick s said:
i'd say Tyson, i'm still adamant that there'd be no-one capable of beating him in a no holds barred street fight. The mans an animal!
unfortunately MMA isn't no holds barred. Tyson would be flat on his arse before he could decide which ear to bite.
He'd bite something though
Beat me to it!

nick s

1,371 posts

223 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Stu R said:
nick s said:
i'd say Tyson, i'm still adamant that there'd be no-one capable of beating him in a no holds barred street fight. The mans an animal!
unfortunately MMA isn't no holds barred. Tyson would be flat on his arse before he could decide which ear to bite.
yea i know. plus they are wearing some form of padding on their hands aren't they. i just think he'd be savage in a normal scrap outside of any ring.

MikeyT

16,850 posts

277 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Not even knowing who Brock Lesnar is, I would still say Tyson and easily.

And yes, you need a lady friend ... biggrin

davido140

9,614 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Bluequay said:
Vagabond said:
Following on from the boxer vs MMA fighter, who would take this with a Tyson in his prime vs Brock Lesnar in his current form. This would be a freestyle fight with general MMA type rules applied.

Tyson was incredibly good at controlling much bigger fighters. He was able to move inside their reach and land massive body shots and big hooks and uppercuts, and his aggression and speed, as well as his head movement, kept him largely out of trouble and allowed him to negate any size or reach differences.

Tyson also had a good gas tank, but of course zero ground skills, kicks, or knees.

Lesnar is incredibly quick and very good at shooting in and taking people down. Very strong and agile as well, with a surprisingly good punch on him with his 82 inch reach.

Lesnar is very good at throwing knees from the clinch, though Tyson is also a beast in the clinch, able to throw massive body shots, and as the breakaway happens he uses his hand speed to connect with the head and get a knockout.

Tyson would be expecting a takedown attempt so would use probably move inside quickly and try and land some big shots. He would also be ready to throw a massive punch to try and knock Lesnar out if he went for the takedown. He would look to keep moving and make an takedowns difficult.

Lesnar has a good solid chin. I think he'd accept he is going to eat a big punch if he went for the takedown, but knowing it is his best shot would go for it anyway. It really depends how it landed, as once on the ground, if Lesnar wasnt knocked out or very badly hurt, Tysons fight would be over and he'd be ground 'n pounded into oblivion.

Would be such a cool matchup, Tyson's aggression and ability to get inside vs Lesnars speed and ability to get takedowns. The only unknown would be whether Lesnar could stand with Tyson and utilise his reach advantage and big right, but I think if he tried that Tyson would move inside him and demolish him.

I think we need a new PS3 game, with all the boxing greats vs all the MMA greats.
I think somebody needs a lady friend!!
rofl or maybe with watching all these oiled up muscley men, a boyfriend?

okgo

39,147 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Lesnar is biblically strong. And would dispose of Tyson very easily. For a man of 20 stone moves like that of 14 odd. Not to mention his reach, the size of his hands xxxxxl or something stupid, on the receiving end of that your going for a kip I think.

pimpin gimp

3,295 posts

206 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Vagabond said:
with his 82 inch reach.
He can punch with hsi 2.08m arms? christ, what is he, 4m tall?

okgo

39,147 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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pimpin gimp said:
Vagabond said:
with his 82 inch reach.
He can punch with hsi 2.08m arms? christ, what is he, 4m tall?
"Lesnar's hands are the largest for any combat sports athlete in the history of the state of Nevada. He needed 4XL gloves, and even they were slightly on the small size. The only fighter ever to wear 4XL gloves was South Korean giant Choi Hong-man, who is 7-3 and 367 pounds. While we didn't get the exact number, people were also stunned by Lesnar's reach, as it was longer than Tim Sylvia's. However, that probably won't play much of a part because boxing at range probably isn't in his strategy."

And yes 81" reach for lesnar, who is 6.3 and 260-280 lbs

Vagabond

Original Poster:

380 posts

202 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Okay, lady friend aside, I still think this fight would be amazing. It'd be tough to call and someone would be going hom in an ambulance.

In the clinch would be interesting, here's Lesnar landing a reply knee from the clinch, compared to Tysons body shots and short uppercuts, not sure Tyson would be able to compete


Yoshiwaan

322 posts

196 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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I've never seen anyone land a solid punch when a good shoot fighter lands his takedown...

They go so low on the leg you can only punch down, not a great source of power. Elbows/Knees are best but not Tyson's speciality.

When it comes down to it the early Ultimate Fighter comps showed that 1v1 grappling is king, I don't know how well Tyson could handle that.

Republik

4,525 posts

196 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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I'd go for Lesnar, his punches look immense and he's a wrestler by trade.

Would you mess with this?



ETA: Did you see what Ricky Hatton said about Brock Lesnar?

"Brock's a big bloke, isn't he? If you found him in bed with your girlfriend, you'd tuck him in!" rofl

Edited by Republik on Wednesday 3rd December 10:35

Dirty Boy

14,738 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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I eat 6'3, 20 stone muscle bound althetic monsters for breakfast.

Bring it on.

BAHN-STORMA

2,715 posts

196 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Republik said:
ETA: Did you see what Ricky Hatton said about Brock Lesnar?

"Brock's a big bloke, isn't he? If you found him in bed with your girlfriend, you'd tuck him in!" rofl
Got to love Ricky! [Not in that way though... you know!]

Gun

13,432 posts

224 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Yeah, but Bruse Lee would've kicked his acensorede!

Edited by Gun on Wednesday 3rd December 12:18