Paul Parry retires from international football - pathetic?

[TheGreatSoprendo]

You tend to get used to tiresome displays of histrionics and toy throwing from today's pampered pro's, but surely this is in a class of it's own:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internati...

So poor little Paulie gets left on the bench for Saturday's game, doesn't like it, so decides to throw all his toys out of the pram in one go and retire from international football. This, despite the fact that Toshack had already told him he'd be starting the game against Russia on Wednesday!

Although I'd be the first to question Toshack's tactics (playing a lone striker against Azerbaijan at home? That lone striker being the tiny Rob Earnshaw?), this just seems utterly pathetic and is a prime example of why I have less and less time for professional football these days...

[mickk]

He aint the first one Paul Scholes, Jamie Carragher spring to mind. Its there choice i suppose

[TheGreatSoprendo]

Oh, it's entirely their choice, but that doesn't stop it being pathetic. Don't know the background to the Carragher or Scholes retirements, but surely they didn't retire on the strength of being left on the bench for one game?

[mickk]

If that is the only reason then yes it is pathetic, but would Toshack want a player that throws his dummy out of the window when his told to do something?

[anonymous-user]

mickk said:

He aint the first one Paul Scholes, Jamie Carragher spring to mind. Its there choice i suppose

to be fair Paul Scholes has said that he was frustrated by the england management and wanted to extend his manchester united playing career by dropping out of the England set up. three sucessive england managers have tried to talk him out of it but to no avail. I think Scholes realised that his injuries over the last few years have limited his opportunities to play for Man Utd, never mind to play for England, I think he made the right choice.

I dont blame Carragher at all, he has consistently been one of the best English defenders over the last five years but people like Lescott, Glen Johnson and Phil Neville get picked ahead of him. If you were passed for promotion despite getting high sales or whatever, then you too would be pissed off...

Parry is being quite petty though, Tosh was keeping him for the Russia game and didnt want to risk him getting injured against Azerbiajan... he was one of the more experienced, better players in the Welsh squad so his "retirement" is sad for the younger players coming through who need the experienced players for advice. I think he will regret the decision much like Gobby Savage and make a U-Turn soon....

[vivaronaldo]

TheGreatSoprendo said:

Oh, it's entirely their choice, but that doesn't stop it being pathetic. Don't know the background to the Carragher or Scholes retirements, but surely they didn't retire on the strength of being left on the bench for one game?

Scholes retired for several reasons, firstly he wanted to spend more time with his wife and kids, secondly he wanted to prolong his united career and thirdly he was annoyed at being played on the left wing, while fat frank lumpard took his position.

Carragher retired as he had a slapped arse for a face as he didnt get picked as ultimately he isnt good enough for international football.

[Vee]

vivaronaldo said:

TheGreatSoprendo said:

Oh, it's entirely their choice, but that doesn't stop it being pathetic. Don't know the background to the Carragher or Scholes retirements, but surely they didn't retire on the strength of being left on the bench for one game?

Scholes retired for several reasons, firstly he wanted to spend more time with his wife and kids, secondly he wanted to prolong his united career and thirdly he was annoyed at being played on the left wing, while fat frank lumpard took his position.

Carragher retired as he had a slapped arse for a face as he didnt get picked as ultimately he isnt good enough for international football.

Surprise, surprise. Yet another thread with no contribution of value from VR.

[Fiddlemesticks]

vivaronaldo said:

TheGreatSoprendo said:

Oh, it's entirely their choice, but that doesn't stop it being pathetic. Don't know the background to the Carragher or Scholes retirements, but surely they didn't retire on the strength of being left on the bench for one game?

Scholes retired for several reasons, firstly he wanted to spend more time with his wife and kids, secondly he wanted to prolong his united career and thirdly he was annoyed at being played on the left wing, while fat frank lumpard took his position.

Carragher retired as he had a slapped arse for a face as he didnt get picked as ultimately he isnt good enough for international football.

You're a tit arent you. You really are. I agree with both players decisions and to give your 'insight' based on Carra's looks rather than ability (you think you did but frankly your opinion is stupid) just shows what a muppet you are.

Let me guess, Reina, Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano etc are all not good enough to play for their country as they are Liverpool players.

If you're going to post on here at least have the decency to add some value rather than coming over like a dick.

And yes i can take the banter, but you're not a banter boy. You're a fkwit with zero to add.

Edited by Fiddlemesticks on Tuesday 9th September 10:16

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[PR350]

vivaronaldo said:

TheGreatSoprendo said:

Oh, it's entirely their choice, but that doesn't stop it being pathetic. Don't know the background to the Carragher or Scholes retirements, but surely they didn't retire on the strength of being left on the bench for one game?

Scholes retired for several reasons, firstly he wanted to spend more time with his wife and kids, secondly he wanted to prolong his united career and thirdly he was annoyed at being played on the left wing, while fat frank lumpard took his position.

Carragher retired as he had a slapped arse for a face as he didnt get picked as ultimately he isnt good enough for international football.

I can only assume you are here to enter a 'Who's The Biggest In The World' contest.

Rest assured 'Vivaronaldo' you slouching, mumbling, groingrabbing cockwipe, your title is safe. You are A MASSIVE MASSIVE MASSIVE .

[vivaronaldo]

fking hell the bindippers have all bitten! and big style.

Mascherano and Torres are quality world class players who we would love to have at Old Trafford. However they are the only players who would get near our first team.

As for Carragher take off your red tinted specs, he simply wasnt good enough for England, an opinion held by all recent England managers who all know much more about the game than you.

He is an above average premiership footballer, but his game is based on effort and sly dirty play that simply doest hold sway at international football, he is slow and gets turned easily and is one of the reasons you havent won the title in years.

Ferdinand, Terry, Woodgate, Campbell, Brown and Lescott all have muchm more to their game.

[mgp1969]

vivaronaldo said:

Ferdinand, Terry, Woodgate, Campbell, Brown and Lescott all have muchm more to their game.

what complete bks

Ferdinand - agree with you on that one
Terry - one paced, increasingly injury prone, edges Carragher when fit
Woodgate - sicknote, can't rely on him in an England shirt
Campbell - good 5 years ago
Brown - it's those red shades again
Lescott - looked promising last season, has been st this

personally I have no truck with players who refuse to play for their countries, with the possible exception of scholes as he was getting slated for poor performances when he was constantly being played out of position, but to distort the facts as you have about the relative merits of players is just daft

that said, you do seem to be a bit of a fkwit, so you probably actually believe this crap

(edited for spelling)

Edited by mgp1969 on Thursday 25th September 20:46

[vivaronaldo]

mgp1969 said:

vivaronaldo said:

Ferdinand, Terry, Woodgate, Campbell, Brown and Lescott all have muchm more to their game.

what complete bks

Ferdinand - agree with you on that one
Terry - one paced, increasingly injury prone, edges Carragher when fit
Woodgate - sicknote, can't rely on him in an England shirt
Campbell - good 5 years ago
Brown - it's those red shades again
Lescott - looked promising last season, has been st this

personally I have no truck with players who refuse to play for their countries, with the possible exception of scholes as he was getting slated for poor performances when he was constantly being played out of position, but to distort the facts as you have about the relative merits of players is just daft

that said, you do seem to be a bit of a fkwit, so you probably actually believe this crap

(edited for spelling)

Edited by mgp1969 on Thursday 25th September 20:46

you keep telling yourself that Carragher is great, but you will NEVER win the premier league with that donkey in your defence

[largerandrock]

Carragher retired as he had a slapped arse for a face as he didnt get picked as ultimately he isnt good enough for international football.
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Are you fking MAD!!! one of the best english centre backs of all time in my opinion and many other people! its just that rio got his place! at the time rio was not as good as carragher, He is now dont get me wrong but he never used to be!

Edited by largerandrock on Friday 26th September 14:39

[vivaronaldo]

largerandrock said:

Carragher retired as he had a slapped arse for a face as he didnt get picked as ultimately he isnt good enough for international football.

Are you fking MAD!!! one of the best english centre backs of all time in my opinion and many other people! its just that rio got his place! at the time rio was not as good as carragher, He is now dont get me wrong but he never used to be!

Edited by largerandrock on Friday 26th September 14:39

Now Pistonheads has seen some funny posts in its time but that has to be the funniest of all time!

Carragher one of the best English Centre backs of all time?! : rofl:

Total plodder not fancied by any England manager, doesnt that tell you something, no league title since he has played for you, and thats just his generation.

Pallister, Adams, Moore, to name just 3 are all out of the fat plodders league.

[largerandrock]

I dont support Liverpool so no he hasnt won any titles with "us"

He has not won a title and thats all his own fault is it? its got nothing to do with all the other players that have played for Liverpool?

The three names you mentioned are all very good! and prob the best in there day! but with the pace of todays game being alot lot faster and skillfull than in theres! How could you tell!!!

[BJG1]

Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about Carragher, he doesn't get selected for Liverpool at centre back anymore, just a few months after he retired from international football, doesn't that tell you he isn't good enough for England?

He has quite rightly had Ferdinand and Terry ahead of him at centre back, and 2 or 33 years a go, Sol Campbell as well. Ferdnand and Terry are a lot better than Carragher, who himself is a good player, just unfortunate to have the best centre back in the word, and John Terry, another world-class centre back, ahead of him.

As for the full backs, well, when Nevile was fit, he wasn't as good as him, and he's nowhere near as good as Ashley Cole at left back, or for that matter probably Wayne Bridge and Nicky Shorey, so he isn't going to get a chance there.

This makes him a back-up player, at centre back, King and Woodgate are better players, and when fit, will be ahead of him in the England set-up, which in the last couple of yeares has been enough to see Carragher not playing a CB for England.

As for Johnson, Bridge, Lescott etc all being ahead of him, why not? They all have a chance of becoming a first XI player for England in the future, and the difference between them and jamie isn't so great that it isn't worth giving them a chance.

Also, he was fking terrible last season, and didn't deserve to be in the england squad on merit.