Joe Calzaghe, our man.
Discussion
Mattt said:
He won, so he's British and people are proud.
If he lost last night, he would have been Welsh.
If he lost last night, he would have been Welsh.
It's funny because as a boxing fan I have never preferred a boxer due to his nationality but instead for his ability.
I've been a calazghe fan long before he beat Eubank all those years ago so I was still awake at a stupid hour this morning to cheer him on.
Anyway, Joe Calzaghe should finally have earnt the respect he rightly deserves from anyone who is interested in boxing from the world over.
Bandit said:
To be fair it was a poor fight, he looked very unconvincing, almost amature at times.
Would have been great to show the yanks what he could really do.
It was obvious (to me anyway) that hopkins was runing out of steam in the later rounds. No sour grapes, because JC won, but I have to say the "low" blow was at a fortuitous time and it was amazing for someone so supposededly so debilitated by that blow to come back after a 2 minute "breather" and nearly steal the round...But I suppose you don't get to be multiple world champion without learning a few tricks Would have been great to show the yanks what he could really do.
I was watching it on HBO (US channel) and the commentators were adamant that Calzaghe won and did more than enough to secure victory. I thin he's come out of the fight with a lot more respect in the US now.
Bandit said:
To be fair it was a poor fight, he looked very unconvincing, almost amature at times.
Would have been great to show the yanks what he could really do.
The same could be said for any of the top fighters who have fought Hopkins. That is Bernards game, he rough houses people by way of illegal moves and constant clinching whilst backing up for most of the fight and attempting to counter.Would have been great to show the yanks what he could really do.
Calzaghe is the only guy to have ever hit Hopkins that many times in any fight and even though they weren't hard hits they still counted and helped him win.
He will be able to show the 'yanks' exactly what he is made of when he fights someone who isn't scared of throwing some leather along with some power shots, i.e. Roy Jones or Kelly Pavlik if he comes up to 168 and Joe drops down to 168 to fight him.
I think alot of people seem to miss the fact that Hopkins, even at the age of 43, is still a living legend and hardly any of the top guys over in the states want to fight him.
Well done Joe!
The thing is these days, fights at the top level are becoming more and more scrappy as people try to hang onto titles.
At the end of the day it is results that count.
The days of fights like Hagler, Hearns, Eubanks, McGuigan, McKenzie etc are few and far between these days. There is so much ducking and diving these days. When guys have to wait for so long for a fight that earns them their first million, all they are bothered about is standing up at the end (if they dont get knocked out in the first round) to claim their takings.
Whether or not JC fought his best fight doesnt matter, he took some so called hard punches to the head from Hopkins, as well as dragging his arse off the floor in the first round, and still won. You gotta be proud of the man Welsh or British. Just imagine if he had turned round and said "I aint gonna be beaten by a black man". He should have punched his nuts up into his throat for that comment.
At the end of the day it is results that count.
The days of fights like Hagler, Hearns, Eubanks, McGuigan, McKenzie etc are few and far between these days. There is so much ducking and diving these days. When guys have to wait for so long for a fight that earns them their first million, all they are bothered about is standing up at the end (if they dont get knocked out in the first round) to claim their takings.
Whether or not JC fought his best fight doesnt matter, he took some so called hard punches to the head from Hopkins, as well as dragging his arse off the floor in the first round, and still won. You gotta be proud of the man Welsh or British. Just imagine if he had turned round and said "I aint gonna be beaten by a black man". He should have punched his nuts up into his throat for that comment.
juice said:
Bandit said:
To be fair it was a poor fight, he looked very unconvincing, almost amature at times.
Would have been great to show the yanks what he could really do.
It was obvious (to me anyway) that hopkins was runing out of steam in the later rounds. No sour grapes, because JC won, but I have to say the "low" blow was at a fortuitous time and it was amazing for someone so supposededly so debilitated by that blow to come back after a 2 minute "breather" and nearly steal the round...But I suppose you don't get to be multiple world champion without learning a few tricks Would have been great to show the yanks what he could really do.
I was watching it on HBO (US channel) and the commentators were adamant that Calzaghe won and did more than enough to secure victory. I thin he's come out of the fight with a lot more respect in the US now.
h slapping during mid to late rounds, what was all that about? 6/10 from me, could have done better !vonhosen said:
dr.sickman said:
What is the consensus on this man's status in UK and world boxing histories?
If he beats Jones it will result in legend status.dr.sickman said:
vonhosen said:
dr.sickman said:
What is the consensus on this man's status in UK and world boxing histories?
If he beats Jones it will result in legend status.Alex said:
scorp said:
There's nothing to be gained by beating an faded glass-chinned Jones. Joe is an awesome fighter but I can't help but feel he had been protected most his career.
He's not so much been protected, as avoided.Joe is already a legend, there is a difference between protected and avoided. He has some big names on his list, and destroyed alot of them, this was not vintage Joe, but he had to adapt and overcome wich he did. Hopkins sat bank and clinched whenever he could, was good in close as well, which is funny as the Ref allowed it but not when Hatton did it....strange, also some shocking un punished head action from Hopkins.
The fact remains, Joe was the agressor for 90% of the fight, away from home and against someone of Hopkins Calibre, that is quite impressive. By no means was not his best display but he did what he needed to.
The fact remains, Joe was the agressor for 90% of the fight, away from home and against someone of Hopkins Calibre, that is quite impressive. By no means was not his best display but he did what he needed to.
scorp said:
Alex said:
scorp said:
There's nothing to be gained by beating an faded glass-chinned Jones. Joe is an awesome fighter but I can't help but feel he had been protected most his career.
He's not so much been protected, as avoided.I still maintain that Mikkel Kessler could take a trip over to the states and give a good few of the top guys a royal roughing up.
At the moment I don't see Dawson, Tarver or Jones beating Calzaghe, although Jones won't be easy as he is also lightning quick, packs a punch and has the reactions of a Cat!
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