Paul Scholes - Time to step aside?

Paul Scholes - Time to step aside?

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oxford drinker

1,879 posts

235 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Isn't Fergie hoping to play him in the Champions League Final (should Utd get there) out of sentiment because he missed out last time? Perhaps this will be his swansong, followed by a move to Newcastle or Everton or a similar non-top 4 club.

lazyitus

19,926 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Scholes still has alot to offer United.

His performance against Arsenal the other day was literally the worst I've ever seen him play but in other games this season, he's been outstanding.

He has at least one more good season in him yet.

Trust Fergie.

MikeyT

16,847 posts

277 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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If you watch Scholes when United come out of defence he is an absolute master - he knows exactly how much time he can have on the ball and where other players are as you see him looking whenever he hasn't got the ball but could do soon ...

He creates space for himself like few others do ...

But ...

He ain't getting any younger and the speed of the games is such nowadays that he hasn't got the turn of pace (did he ever) to keep up and he can get bypassed, so defencesively he is lacking but when United come out of defence he is one of the best.

Edited by MikeyT on Thursday 17th April 10:42

BJG1

5,966 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Scholes has been pretty excellent this season, he just can't play as many games. His creativity and long passing is still the best in the country along with Cesc, he also has a lot of valuable experience to pass onto Carrick with regard to picking out passes, and can teach Anderson to develop the attacking side of his game. Such is Scvhole's massive contribution to United, it takes 2 players (Anderson and Carrick) do do the job Scholes has done.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

223 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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When the pace of the game's been fast, as have a couple recently, he is beginning to look a bit past his best. He did have a poor game against Arsenal.

Having said that, when the game gives him enough space on the ball, his distribution is simply awesome. He stands there, middle of the pitch, and spots passes other players just don't see.

There's still a very valuable place for him in the team, and I think the manager is generally doing a good job of choosing which games to use him in.

BJG1

5,966 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Can't wait to see him go to Oldham biggrin

paultither

1,320 posts

206 months

Thursday 17th April 2008
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Think about good old Teddy. Still a great footballing mind, along the same lines as Scholes. Never been the quickest but his passing ability and use of the ball still make him a cut above, I'd expect Fergie to use Anderson more and more next season who I think will develop into an amazing talent.

dickymint

25,603 posts

264 months

Saturday 19th April 2008
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Scholes has another 12 months to run on his contract. He may decide to run it out and go on a freebie. Mark Hughes wants him and Giggs at Blackburn this summer! There is no way he will get Giggsy until he has smashed all records at United.

Royton Blue

366 posts

230 months

Saturday 19th April 2008
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As much as I'd love to see Scholes here at Oldham I just can't see it happening, he'll remain an United where he has a good couple of years left IMO. Fantastic player though, one of the very best of his generation. yes

lazyitus

19,926 posts

272 months

Thursday 24th April 2008
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satch said:
risible performance from scholes in a fairly inert performance from united last night.

poor game I thought.
Yes - it was a poor game.

However, United are displaying a promising style in my opinion. Where we might have gone gung-ho in previous years, maybe winning 1-0 or losing 1-0, we are now capable of playing a brilliant defensive game in a 'European' style, if you know what I mean.

Coming away from there with a 0-0 scoreline means that we obviously have to go out and win next Tuesday but also it suggests that with our home record and the home crowd, we surely must win the 2nd leg ?

Although not a good performance for the eye, I thought it was a magnificent performance from a purely strategic and professional point of view.

lazyitus

19,926 posts

272 months

Thursday 24th April 2008
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satch said:
however, the ball retention was appaling from united. with (sorry) scholes being a major culprit.
Couldn't disagree. Wayward passing was woeful, worse than normal.

My main point is that although we played quite poorly in that department, the overall stamina and organisation was spot on which enabled us to keep a clean sheet even though we were not keeping posession at all well.

If we can perform this well collectively / defensively (whilst giving the ball away too readily) against a team like Barcelona without conceding, then things don't look too bad. Just need to couple that with the way we CAN play going forward.

But it needs to be quick. The next 2 games in particular will define the whole season.

Exciting times.

HFLagos

435 posts

218 months

Thursday 24th April 2008
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Scholes may not be in the best form, but I wouldnt write him off yet.

Time instead for Gary Neville to step aside.

paultither

1,320 posts

206 months

Friday 25th April 2008
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Agreed, I can't imagine G Neville being as good as he was before the injury, especially at his age. Its a shame I don't have too much trust in Wes Brown, although he has been good this season, we need another Evra but at right back.

Lord Vladimir

303 posts

199 months

Tuesday 29th April 2008
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oh dear!!

T5SOR

1,999 posts

231 months

Tuesday 29th April 2008
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Reminds me of the time my brother said Owen was rubbish. The next day Owen scored a hat-rick for Liverpool hehe

lazyitus

19,926 posts

272 months

Wednesday 30th April 2008
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What a goal, what a player !!! biggrin

That was in my top 3 atmospheres I've ever experienced last night. Amazing night.



And they say Anfield is great on European nights.

thumbup BRING IT ON !

Edited by lazyitus on Wednesday 30th April 10:05

PaulPT7

1,320 posts

206 months

Wednesday 30th April 2008
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I was wondering last night if they do go on to win the double, whether Sir Alex, Scholesy and Giggsy may decide they have reached the peak and decide to retire.

lazyitus

19,926 posts

272 months

Wednesday 30th April 2008
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PaulPT7 said:
I was wondering last night if they do go on to win the double, whether Sir Alex, Scholesy and Giggsy may decide they have reached the peak and decide to retire.
Fergy might well consider it the swansong and pack it in after. I hope he doesn't. Even if he won nothing else the year after, he needn't feel any sense of under achievement. Quite the opposite.

Though I think Scholes and Giggs will play on for as long as physically possible.

lazyitus

19,926 posts

272 months

Wednesday 30th April 2008
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satch said:
fergie won't retire on a year they don't win the champs league imho.

this year may well be that year. lets hope so
confused I thought you were a United fan, Satch. Either I've got that wrong or your words are a bit muddled up ?

minisloth

365 posts

201 months

Wednesday 30th April 2008
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I've got a feeling that Giggs and Scholes will retire if United were to win the Champions League. They're coming towards the end of their playing careers and at a domestic level will have achieved all they can. Might as well go out on a high.