6 Natons Stats do far !

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(buggered up the title due to typing fast)

Didn't want to put this in the other thread as its quite long. But makes for interesting reading.

Rank Players Country Matches Defenders beaten

1 Vincent Clerc FRA 2 6
2 Shane Williams WAL 2 5
2 James Hook WAL 2 5
2 Cedric Heymans FRA 2 5
2 James Haskell ENG 2 5
6 Iain Balshaw ENG 2 4
6 Nic De Luca SCO 2 4
6 Eoin Reddan IRE 2 4
6 Toby Flood ENG 2 4
6 Andrew Henderson SCO 2 4


Rank Players Country Matches Metres Gained

1 Cedric Heymans FRA 2 246
2 Vincent Clerc FRA 2 183
3 Shane Williams WAL 2 151
4 Lee Byrne WAL 2 146
5 Aurelien Rougerie FRA 2 113
6 Eoin Reddan IRE 2 100
7 Geordan Murphy IRE 2 99
8 Andrew Henderson SCO 2 95
9 Rory Lamont SCO 1 93
10 Iain Balshaw ENG 2 92


Rank Players Country Matches Carries

1 Cedric Heymans FRA 2 26
2 Denis Leamy IRE 2 25
3 Thierry Dusautoir FRA 2 24
4 Ryan Jones WAL 2 23
5 Sergio Parisse ITA 2 18
6 Vincent Clerc FRA 2 17
6 Shane Williams WAL 2 17
6 Mirco Bergamasco ITA 2 17
6 James Haskell ENG 2 17
10 Lee Byrne WAL 2 16
10 Donncha O'Callaghan IRE 2 16
10 Brian O'Driscoll IRE 2 16


Rank Players Country Matches Clean breaks

1 Eoin Reddan IRE 2 5
2 Lee Byrne WAL 2 4
3 Vincent Clerc FRA 2 3
3 Cedric Heymans FRA 2 3
3 David Skrela FRA 2 3
6 Shane Williams WAL 2 2
6 Geordan Murphy IRE 2 2
6 David Marty FRA 2 2
6 Gavin Henson WAL 2 2
6 Paul Sackey ENG 2 2
6 Toby Flood ENG 2 2
6 Andrew Henderson SCO 2 2
6 Mike Phillips WAL 2 2
6 Robert Kearney IRE 2 2
6 James Haskell ENG 2 2
6 Andrew Trimble IRE 2 2

Rank Players Country Matches Try assist

1 Cedric Heymans FRA 2 2
1 Jonny Wilkinson ENG 2 2
3 Lee Byrne WAL 2 1
3 Martyn Williams WAL 2 1
3 David Skrela FRA 2 1
3 James Hook WAL 2 1
3 Lesley Vainikolo ENG 2 1
3 Andrew Trimble IRE 2 1

(arguably Wilkinson could be top with 3 considering his pinpoint kick which led to Flood's try v Wales)


Rank Players Country Matches Points

1 James Hook WAL 2 28
2 Jonny Wilkinson ENG 2 27
3 Vincent Clerc FRA 2 25
4 Ronan O'Gara IRE 2 22
5 David Bortolussi ITA 2 20
6 Chris Paterson SCO 2 15
7 Toby Flood ENG 2 10
7 Shane Williams WAL 2 10
7 Jean-Baptiste Elissalde FRA 2 10
10 Stephen Jones WAL 1 8

Rank Players Country Matches Tackles

1 John Barclay SCO 2 31
2 Fulgence Ouedraogo FRA 2 29
3 Martyn Williams WAL 2 25
3 James Haskell ENG 2 25
5 Andrew Henderson SCO 2 22
5 Nathan Hines SCO 2 22
7 Thierry Dusautoir FRA 2 21
8 James Hamilton SCO 2 20
8 Simon Shaw ENG 2 20
8 Mauro Bergamasco ITA 2 20

Rank Players Country Matches Missed tackles

1 Francois Trinh-Duc FRA 2 4
1 Chris Paterson SCO 2 4
1 Huw Bennett WAL 2 4
4 Alun Wyn Jones WAL 1 3
4 Martin Castrogiovanni ITA 2 3
4 Ryan Jones WAL 2 3
4 Nic De Luca SCO 2 3
4 Lionel Nallet FRA 2 3
4 Santiago Dellape ITA 2 3
4 Geordan Murphy IRE 2 3
4 Gavin Henson WAL 2 3
4 Allan Jacobsen SCO 2 3

Edited by stimmers on Wednesday 20th February 10:49

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stimmers said:

arguably Wilkinson could be top with 3 considering his pinpoint kick which led to Flood's try v Wales

I suggest you look up the definition of "assist"

By your reasoning you would then have to look at every key pass in a move leading up to a try.

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hornetrider said:

stimmers said:

arguably Wilkinson could be top with 3 considering his pinpoint kick which led to Flood's try v Wales

I suggest you look up the definition of "assist"

By your reasoning you would then have to look at every key pass in a move leading up to a try.

Its a copy and paste from a rugby website. I didn't compile the stats or the comment.

Nice one, yet again

Jog On Dear

(why did i know you'd have f all to say about the actual stats)

Edited by stimmers on Wednesday 20th February 11:58

[disco1]

Pretty interesting stuff. Love stats.

Basically says you wouldn't want to be facing a back 3 of Heyman, Clerc and Williams!

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stimmers said:

Its a copy and paste from a rugby website. I didn't compile the stats or the comment.

How is anyone supposed to know that, the post looks like your own. Perhaps you should stop plagiarising someone else's thoughts and passing them off as your own.

stimmers said:

(why did i know you'd have f all to say about the actual stats)

The implication here (again) being that I know bugger all about rugby and therefore can't comment. The last time you asked me to comment on the technicalities of the ELV's I did so, yet you didn't respond to my post - why bother now?

I did note however that you were of the same opinion as me, in that the 5m offside line at scrumtime is a fly in the ointment of the rush defence. Perhaps there is some common ground after all.

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hornetrider said:

stimmers said:

Its a copy and paste from a rugby website. I didn't compile the stats or the comment.

How is anyone supposed to know that, the post looks like your own. Perhaps you should stop plagiarising someone else's thoughts and passing them off as your own.

stimmers said:

(why did i know you'd have f all to say about the actual stats)

The implication here (again) being that I know bugger all about rugby and therefore can't comment. The last time you asked me to comment on the technicalities of the ELV's I did so, yet you didn't respond to my post - why bother now?

I did note however that you were of the same opinion as me, in that the 5m offside line at scrumtime is a fly in the ointment of the rush defence. Perhaps there is some common ground after all.

As usual you are so far off the mark its not funny, and your really boring.

1) How would i have come up with all the stats myself ?? Plagiarising someone else's thoughts and passing them off as my own. Don't think so at all, but nice try.
2) No the implication was that rather than comment on the thread subject you'd rather take a cheap shot at me. Yet again it comes back to bite in your high and almighty ass.
3) Where on this thread have i asked YOU to comment on technicalities? (you never knew that the 'new' maul law had been rejected by the Super 14)

Your really boring, i've posted some very interesting stats on the 6 Nations so far i though some could discuss. You have taken your ridiculous personal issues and insecurities and thrown them onto yet another thread.

Bore off

Edited by stimmers on Wednesday 20th February 15:04

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disco1 said:

Pretty interesting stuff. Love stats.

Basically says you wouldn't want to be facing a back 3 of Heyman, Clerc and Williams!

Your not wrong.

Also shows how well Haskell is doing.

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stimmers said:

disco1 said:

Pretty interesting stuff. Love stats.

Basically says you wouldn't want to be facing a back 3 of Heyman, Clerc and Williams!

Your not wrong.

Also shows how well Haskell is doing.

Against us Haskell was everywhere, probably the biggest threat in the white shirt. Probably a mixture of first big game on his part and lack of knoweldge about him on ours. Either way he had a stormer!

Interesting facts on Wilko, even though he looks like he's falling apart he does produce the goods (Still have Hook over him though!). Proves a team is more than just one man. I'm sure if he had a young Greenwood outside him he'd still look good but you'll never go far with the current English backs (dons flame proof suit)

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disco1 said:

stimmers said:

disco1 said:

Pretty interesting stuff. Love stats.

Basically says you wouldn't want to be facing a back 3 of Heyman, Clerc and Williams!

Your not wrong.

Also shows how well Haskell is doing.

Against us Haskell was everywhere, probably the biggest threat in the white shirt. Probably a mixture of first big game on his part and lack of knoweldge about him on ours. Either way he had a stormer!

Interesting facts on Wilko, even though he looks like he's falling apart he does produce the goods (Still have Hook over him though!). Proves a team is more than just one man. I'm sure if he had a young Greenwood outside him he'd still look good but you'll never go far with the current English backs (dons flame proof suit)

If the Lions were playing SA in a test tmrw, i'd pick Wilkinson at 10 without any thought of other players. Im sorry, they guy is by far the best 10 in the NH still to this day. His mental strength and experience mixed wih his tactical brain, his kicking, rock solid defence and passing makes him the stand out 10 for me in NH. A few poor games doesn't make him a bad player and as you say, looked at his stats in those poor games.

Haskell will probably be Wasps no.8 next season and Eng's No.8. I am desperate to see Tom Croft play 6 - they guy is awsome.

Current English backs, well i agree, with a fully fit squad, Wilkinson is the only player that would make my backline.