Prem game abroad

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sleep envy

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62,260 posts

255 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/...
surprised this one's not been picked up

good or bad?

IMO they play enough games as it is and who's going to want to watch Fulham -v- Wigan in Asia?

Wacky Racer

38,813 posts

253 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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It's bollox, but it's coming, like it or not...


The jiffle king

7,029 posts

264 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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Rubbish idea

I thought they complained about too many games!!!

ph123

1,841 posts

224 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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I think the fundamental point which all the pundits miss is that football teams in the UK grew out of representation of local towns and cities. As far as actual football is concerned MANCHESTER vs LIVERPOOL would always be a sell out locally because of rivalry and local support within those towns.
Of course, the BRAND football is a victim of its own success and BRAND MANCHESTER vs BRAND LIVERPOOL will also be a sell out where football matters world wide.
Rather like Grand Prix racing, GP used to be the pinnacle of motor sporting events in each country. But the BRAND GRAND PRIX has outgrown that idea too. Frankly, you can hold the BRITISH GP anywhere in the world; the spectacle is the same. Very few local issues effect how teams approach any particular race and as I need a special pass just to view the paddock of the support race, let alone get anywhere near a GP car, how could I miss it? I’m not supporting anything in British racing green am I? (The way pit lane walkabouts are staged, they could be anywhere too. Only Monaco and perhaps Spa remain reasonably sacrosanct.)
Money and media coverage are altering the fabric of so many 'local' events. It does seems a shame that local fans and supporters which gave these international sports their original wealth, no longer matter.

tigger1

8,402 posts

227 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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The reporting is that each club will get "an extra 5 million pounds" from this - which is where the attraction is. Sadly outside the big 3 (I refuse to call it 4 these days...maybe next year ey Liverpool?) the effect will be far less than for the big boys.

ManUre, Arse' and ChelSki stand to gain far more from this in terms of sales of merchandise etc abroad. Will Mr Dong Gook in Korea want to buy a Derby shirt when they play Man Utd there, or a United one?

No, I don't think this is a good thing - and it's only in the interests of the shareholders of the top 3 to push for this...and anyone aspiring to be a member of that club. Anyone else...it's bad news and will make the financial gap between "Top 3 plc" and "the rest" greater than it already is.

Also, with each team playing 1 extra game at random, but the points counting...seems a touch unfair that whoever draws Sunderland / Derby etc get's to play (in theory) an easier game than somebody else playing Chelsea.

oxford drinker

1,879 posts

235 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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The good folks of Middlesbrough, Wigan, Bolton and Blackburn (amongst others) can't be bothered to turn up in numbers week in week out, so why should somebody the other side of the world? The average Premier League game is not as big an attraction as the Premier League would like to believe.

tigger1

8,402 posts

227 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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oxford drinker said:
The good folks of Middlesbrough, Wigan, Bolton and Blackburn (amongst others) can't be bothered to turn up in numbers week in week out, so why should somebody the other side of the world? The average Premier League game is not as big an attraction as the Premier League would like to believe.
Indeed - like I said, the only winners here are the top few clubs

Puggit

48,768 posts

254 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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tigger1 said:
oxford drinker said:
The good folks of Middlesbrough, Wigan, Bolton and Blackburn (amongst others) can't be bothered to turn up in numbers week in week out, so why should somebody the other side of the world? The average Premier League game is not as big an attraction as the Premier League would like to believe.
Indeed - like I said, the only winners here are the top few clubs
I can't believe that people are still willing to pay the amount that football clubs now charge. £50 to get in to Chelsea last time Watford played there.

I find it hard to justify going to Vicarage Road to watch a match these days, and our costs are far lower. Gone are the days of £4.50 on the terrace, and you'll struggle to convince me it's been for the better.

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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The more money the clubs get the less interest I have in football. I don't really believe sport and money mix that well.

tigger1

8,402 posts

227 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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Puggit said:
tigger1 said:
oxford drinker said:
The good folks of Middlesbrough, Wigan, Bolton and Blackburn (amongst others) can't be bothered to turn up in numbers week in week out, so why should somebody the other side of the world? The average Premier League game is not as big an attraction as the Premier League would like to believe.
Indeed - like I said, the only winners here are the top few clubs
I can't believe that people are still willing to pay the amount that football clubs now charge. £50 to get in to Chelsea last time Watford played there.

I find it hard to justify going to Vicarage Road to watch a match these days, and our costs are far lower. Gone are the days of £4.50 on the terrace, and you'll struggle to convince me it's been for the better.
Don't - I live in Nottingham now and it's EIGHTEEN pounds to see Notts County FFS. Bloody joke.

Football needs a short sharp shock - short term pain, long term gain.

stimmers

2,312 posts

209 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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I used to work in the business of sport. Sponsorship, event setup etc and the whole thing is simply about money. Football is not a sport anymore, everything and i mean everything revolves around the £. Why do you think all these guys are buying premiership football clubs. Its not the love of football its to make money. How can you make money in football, increase the fan base, increase the TV revenue and in short sell more merchandise around the world. How are you going to do that? Take actual prem games abroad and increase the Awareness and therefore sales. Its been going on for years in pre season tours, especially to Asia and the US. This is what the business men who have bought Premiership clubs have seen, this is their opportunity to make serious £££ out of the clubs. Football has slowly but surely been taken away from the average supporter and this is where football totally alienates its supporters, when it shows that future profits are above the fans.

As someone who worked in this industry, i can tell you now, IT WILL HAPPEN too many people with too much power and very little loyalty to football clubs stand to get very rich from it, so it will happen. Shirt sponsorship money will go through the roof if they get the added exposure of games abroad

I can only imagine what £££ would be on the table for those brokering a deal to take Man Utd vs Liverpool to LA.

Sad but true, the death of football is close

( not that im too bothered, football went to the dogs years ago and i have lost interest)

Edited by stimmers on Friday 8th February 20:03

number2301

508 posts

206 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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When I heard of the American Rugby game at Wembley I said it'd never happen with our league, we wouldn't stand for it. If this does go ahead it'll be joke. the Premier League, when its going this way Leeds can stay in League 1.

stimmers

2,312 posts

209 months

Friday 8th February 2008
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number2301 said:
When I heard of the American Rugby game at Wembley I said it'd never happen with our league, we wouldn't stand for it. If this does go ahead it'll be joke. the Premier League, when its going this way Leeds can stay in League 1.
Difference with NFL i that US is pretty much the only place in the world where they play it. I personally love the game and was at Wembley for the game and im also glad there is another game coming, however their fans don't seem to mind so much and im not sure home advantage is as advantageous as it is in the Pemiership