England Cricket Coach?

England Cricket Coach?

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sheepy

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3,164 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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So, who should replace Duncan Fletcher (as it appears that he's jumped/been pushed)?

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Sri Lanka coach, Tom Moody.


Edited by Fittster on Thursday 19th April 14:42

sheepy

Original Poster:

3,164 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Fittster said:
Sri Lanka coach, Tom Moody.


Edited by Fittster on Thursday 19th April 14:42
As understand it he's off to coach Western Australia.

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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sheepy said:
Fittster said:
Sri Lanka coach, Tom Moody.


Edited by Fittster on Thursday 19th April 14:42
As understand it he's off to coach Western Australia.



Offer him the annual salary of £350,000 that Fletcher currently gets. That might test his resolve to join Western Australia.

MikeyT

16,836 posts

277 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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I wouldn't mind Tom Moody - or Darren Lehmann for that matter.

But please not Fatt Gatt as has been suggested by someone (not on here)

Sheepy: have deleted post on WC thread ...

Can't see the ECB offering it to Beefy somehow?! Snowball in hell's chance.

Edited by MikeyT on Thursday 19th April 16:15

unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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As a left field suggestion I mentioned Darren Lehman a while ago. Darren Gough made the same suggestion this morning...

I reckon they need a hard man who can knock some of the "I've got an MBE" mentality out of them.

sheepy

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255 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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MikeyT said:
Sheepy: have deleted post on WC thread ...
I've asked the mods for this thread to be limited to UK passport holders only hehe

hsvgtscoupe

2,535 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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sheepy said:
MikeyT said:
Sheepy: have deleted post on WC thread ...
I've asked the mods for this thread to be limited to UK passport holders only hehe

Good idea... we dont want any trouble here.
(I have UK & aussie passports so I gather I'm welcome)
hehehehe (I'm like cancer - I keep growing & very hard to get rid of)

MikeyT

16,836 posts

277 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Good idea - how long before you know who joins the discussion? hehe

Edit: talk of the devil!

Edited by MikeyT on Thursday 19th April 16:36

sheepy

Original Poster:

3,164 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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hsvgtscoupe said:
sheepy said:
MikeyT said:
Sheepy: have deleted post on WC thread ...
I've asked the mods for this thread to be limited to UK passport holders only hehe

Good idea... we dont want any trouble here.
(I have UK & aussie passports so I gather I'm welcome)
hehehehe (I'm like cancer - I keep growing & very hard to get rid of)
yikes

hsvgtscoupe

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236 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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looks like a passport rule developing on two fronts.. you need a UK one to post here & an Aussie passport to apply for Eng coaching posi hehe

MikeyT

16,836 posts

277 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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hsvgtscoupe said:
looks like a passport rule developing on two fronts.. you need a UK one to post here & an Aussie passport to apply for Eng coaching posi hehe


lol. Learn from the best I say. Woolmer would have been a candidate too.

sheepy

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Thursday 19th April 2007
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MikeyT said:
hsvgtscoupe said:
looks like a passport rule developing on two fronts.. you need a UK one to post here & an Aussie passport to apply for Eng coaching posi hehe


lol. Learn from the best I say. Woolmer would have been a candidate too.

Even now he might be better than the current coach

unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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MikeyT said:
hsvgtscoupe said:
looks like a passport rule developing on two fronts.. you need a UK one to post here & an Aussie passport to apply for Eng coaching posi hehe


lol. Learn from the best I say. Woolmer would have been a candidate too.




No way. He was too old.

mikeyt

16,836 posts

277 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Maybe Unrep, but he would have been a candidate none the less.

Someone with the respect of the players but slightly older but not Fletcher old if you know what I mean ...

unrepentant

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262 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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mikeyt said:
Maybe Unrep, but he would have been a candidate none the less.

Someone with the respect of the players but slightly older but not Fletcher old if you know what I mean ...


He was the same age as Fletch.

Lehmann is a damn good shout Mikey but the ECB dont have the balls.

anonymous-user

60 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Darren Lehman, the former South Australia, Australia Yorkshire tubby batsman?

Is he a coach now?

unrepentant

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262 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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stovey said:
Darren Lehman, the former South Australia, Australia Yorkshire tubby batsman?

Is he a coach now?


Thats him.

Nope, not yet but I don't think that mnatters.

I think that what the England team need most is motivation, inspiration and someone with a solid "game head" who can help them to be tactically astute and win matches. Lehmann or Michael Slater would do all of those things. (So would Tom Moody or Dav Whatmore).

International test cricketers should not need "coaching" as far as the basics are concerned. They are supposedly the best players we have. That is why it is so pathetic to see that our "best" bowlers cannot bowl one side of the wicket or to a plan. It's very basic stuff that they should learn before they get anywhere near the England team. From time to time players have technical issues but England have bowling and batting coaches etc.. for that. What they need is a leader to inspire and challenge and put them under pressure, as Buchanan has done with Australia.

MikeyT

16,836 posts

277 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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mikeyt said:
Someone with the respect of the players but slightly older but not Fletcher old if you know what I mean ...


No, Unrep I meant this is who we need, it wasn't a description of woolmer! jester

MikeyT

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Friday 20th April 2007
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unrepentant said:
What they need is a leader to inspire and challenge and put them under pressure, as Buchanan has done with Australia.


I would go along with Warne and say a coach isn't THAT important if you have a decent set of players with both the tactical nous and talent to win matches. Australia have that.

I actually see Ponting as being just as, or more influential than Buchanan.

He leads by example, as we would all like to see Vaughan do (if he stays in the one day side wihch I think he shouldn't). Let's give the one-day captaincy to someone a bit more dynamic - no not Collywood - someone younger - a Grum Smid type - in your face if you like.

But that's not the English way. It's either that or tempt Mike Brearley out of retirement.