Why don't we play any national football games at Twickenham?

Why don't we play any national football games at Twickenham?

Author
Discussion

densham

Original Poster:

48 posts

223 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
quotequote all
Why did'nt we play any football games at Twickenham when Wembley was getting rebuilt. After all, it is a 80,000+ seater stadium

cyberface

12,214 posts

263 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
quotequote all
Because it is a rugby pitch.



Seriously though - rugby is a gentleman's game. The ground is littered with bars selling pints and bottles. AFAIK drinking is banned at football games, and Twickenham especially has the sort of interior layout that would be ideal for large-scale fighting between rival fans. Rugby types simply don't do this.

Equally have you tried getting to Twickers from the local train station? You have to walk for half an hour through suburbia. The residents make a bit of cash selling hotdogs etc. from their front lawns, but regular football games would be vetoed by them instantly. With rugby games, both sets of fans walk to the pitch together - not sure if the cops would like running battles through the streets of Twickenham after football games?

cyberface in hypocrite mode, trolling with ancient stereotypes of football violence! Shock!

kingb

1,153 posts

232 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
quotequote all
beautiful stadium thou

cyberface

12,214 posts

263 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
quotequote all
kingb said:
beautiful stadium thou

Correct, just a pain in the arse to get to, and even more of a pain trying to get a pint (or take a leak) at the Cabbage Patch after the game.

Really really really wish I could have been there today, but couldn't find tickets for less than £200. The whole ticketing situation in the UK for virtually everything is rotten to the core, absolutely corrupt. rage

Kermit power

29,428 posts

219 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
quotequote all
It's not that far to walk! Plus you can take bets on whether the next mounted police woman you see will be drop dead gorgeous or look like the animal she's sitting on!

At the risk of diluting my own chances of getting tickets in the future, it's definitely worth joining the supporters' club. I've been a member for 4 years, and in that time I've been to games against France, South Africa, Australia, Samoa, Wales and Scotland. I could've had tickets for today's game as well, but having shelled out for the Scotland game and also the RWC warm-up game against France in August both in the last few weeks, Mrs Kermit vetoed it. In summary, it's worth it just for the discounted tickets to other rugby events at Twickenham, but absolutely priceless for some of the really big games!

Getting back to the original question, Twickenham is right in the middle of a residential area, so they are strictly limited on the number of fixtures they're allowed each year. You've already got more internationals than you ever used to have, on top of which come the relatively new end of season rubbish for the premiership, other cup matches, the London Sevens (well worth it just to see Russia stuffing it up Australia) and a couple of rock concerts a year. There simply isn't space left on the calendar thank God!

eyebeebe

3,129 posts

239 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
quotequote all
cyberface said:
Because it is a rugby pitch.
AFAIK drinking is banned at football games, and Twickenham especially has the sort of interior layout that would be ideal for large-scale fighting between rival fans. Rugby types simply don't do this.


Only during internationals. There doesn't seem to be a problem with serving warm flat lager during club matches. Caught me out the first time I went to an international.

bigmanszetec

1,193 posts

213 months

Sunday 11th March 2007
quotequote all
Twickenham is the most famous Rugby stadium in the world. I can't see there ever being another sport played there, and thats part of its identity. It's only recently that Twickenham have allowed any other function other than rugby occuring there, e.g. concerts.

fozzi

3,773 posts

246 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
There's no way in the world that Richmond DC would agree to football matches and none of the well to do residents would want to have their town full of football types!!!

audidoody

8,597 posts

262 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
Becauase the net at the back of the football goal posts is too small to fit the back of the rugby goalposts.

intercooler2006

10 posts

220 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
Someone told me that when the stadium was given (I’m not sure if it was given, brought or left) to the RFU, the man who used to own it specifically said that it was only to be used to play rugby on

360stimo

701 posts

234 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
cyberface said:
You have to walk for half an hour through suburbia. ![/small]


You must be the slowest walker in the world. I walked from Richmond to Twickenham in less than 30 mins yesterday.

Its 10-15 at best walk from the ground.

But do get your point of all fans walking in the same direction is not good for wendyball supporters

sleep envy

62,260 posts

255 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
Gazboy said:
Because the fighting at rugby happens on the pitch, in football it's on the streets.


reason being it's difficult to ruck in a Barbour

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

261 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
fozzi said:
...football types!!!


Football types? There are plenty of football fans on PH. Are they all 'football types'? Glad to see the tabloid media most on PH seen to detest has managed to get through to you.

fozzi

3,773 posts

246 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
Andy Mac said:
fozzi said:
...football types!!!


Football types? There are plenty of football fans on PH. Are they all 'football types'? Glad to see the tabloid media most on PH seen to detest has managed to get through to you.

If you bother to read some of the football threads, you will notice that I'm a Hull City & Liverpool supporter.... now go pick your dummy up!!

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

261 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
Wow, so you are a 'football type' too? You must be a Neanderthal along with the rest of us.

eyebeebe

3,129 posts

239 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
bigmanszetec said:
Twickenham is the most famous Rugby stadium in the world. I can't see there ever being another sport played there, and thats part of its identity. It's only recently that Twickenham have allowed any other function other than rugby occuring there, e.g. concerts.


You say that but what about Croke Park in Dublin? The Citadel of games Gaelic. It's now being used on a temporary basis for Rugby and potentially (Association) Football.

fozzi

3,773 posts

246 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
eyebeebe said:
bigmanszetec said:
Twickenham is the most famous Rugby stadium in the world. I can't see there ever being another sport played there, and thats part of its identity. It's only recently that Twickenham have allowed any other function other than rugby occuring there, e.g. concerts.


You say that but what about Croke Park in Dublin? The Citadel of games Gaelic. It's now being used on a temporary basis for Rugby and potentially (Association) Football.

IIRC, the only objections to playing at Croke Park were from the GAA die-hards.... and not the residents!

ewenm

28,506 posts

251 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
fozzi said:
eyebeebe said:
bigmanszetec said:
Twickenham is the most famous Rugby stadium in the world. I can't see there ever being another sport played there, and thats part of its identity. It's only recently that Twickenham have allowed any other function other than rugby occuring there, e.g. concerts.


You say that but what about Croke Park in Dublin? The Citadel of games Gaelic. It's now being used on a temporary basis for Rugby and potentially (Association) Football.

IIRC, the only objections to playing at Croke Park were from the GAA die-hards.... and not the residents!

And they've lost Lansdown Road for now.

The access issues to Twickenham prevent any easy way of keeping opposing fans apart. The police seem to like to do this for football but not rugby.

Twit

2,908 posts

270 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
ewenm said:


The access issues to Twickenham prevent any easy way of keeping opposing fans apart. The police seem to like to do this for football but not rugby.


Cos theres no need to for Rugby! The RFU is takes the local residents pretty seriously, my brother lives in the local area and gets tickets etc, I doubt very much that the locals would be happy with football matches there. And as has been said it would be difficult to keep the fans apart.

360stimo

701 posts

234 months

Monday 12th March 2007
quotequote all
friend of mine was sat outside the White Horse in Parson's Green yesterday. About 4 hours after the Chelsea tottenham game finished and a load of supporters turned up smashing crap out of each other, nails though baseball bats and bottles etc being used. He ran for his life. Was obviously organised

I used to live in Twickenham and there is no way on earth i would want hoards of wendyball supporters in the area. Football satdiums are used to having to keep supporters away from each other both in and out the ground. Police know all the drills etc so i see no point in Football at Twickenham. Leave it at a football stadium