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hoddo

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3,800 posts

222 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

238 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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hoddo said:
I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/


I am a lifelong US football fan. University level mostly (I played). NFL fan as well. However, I believe this will never work. Even if Euro-types like the sport, I doubt that anybody can field a team to compete with current NFL ones....unless they form the league out of Europeans alone. If they are meant to compete with US NFL teams, then it will take some years to become competative, like it took us to stay on the soccer field with you guys. Before anybody says the words "Rugby players"....sorry, they wouldn't last a minute.



Edited by jimbeaux on Monday 12th February 14:59

hoddo

Original Poster:

3,800 posts

222 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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Well after having a chat with a good friend and colleague who is in New Jersey (massive Giants fan) he said that the game on the 28th is actually a league game and counts towards the standard season.

His was under the impression that this is a show game that counts and there will be both a full Giants and full Dolphins squad.

Quote from the website:

“The Miami Dolphins will host the New York Giants at London's Wembley Stadium in the first NFL regular-season game to be played outside of North America, National Football League Commissioner Roger Goodell announced today”

richburley

2,432 posts

260 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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jimbeaux said:
hoddo said:
I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/


I am a lifelong US football fan. University level mostly (I played). NFL fan as well. However, I believe this will never work. Even if Euro-types like the sport, I doubt that anybody can field a team to compete with current NFL ones....unless they form the league out of Europeans alone. If they are meant to compete with US NFL teams, then it will take some years to become competative, like it took us to stay on the soccer field with you guys. Before anybody says the words "Rugby players"....sorry, they wouldn't last a minute.



Edited by jimbeaux on Monday 12th February 14:59

nope, I'm sure they wouldn't. but likewise, the "Gridiron" hehe players would get hammered by a rugby team, at rugby!

RichUK

1,332 posts

254 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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jimbeaux said:
hoddo said:
I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/


I am a lifelong US football fan. University level mostly (I played). NFL fan as well. However, I believe this will never work. Even if Euro-types like the sport, I doubt that anybody can field a team to compete with current NFL ones....unless they form the league out of Europeans alone. If they are meant to compete with US NFL teams, then it will take some years to become competative, like it took us to stay on the soccer field with you guys. Before anybody says the words "Rugby players"....sorry, they wouldn't last a minute.



Edited by jimbeaux on Monday 12th February 14:59


Not sure what you mean, as essentially what they are doing is playing one of the regular week 8 NFL games at Wembley* next season.

* Subject of course to Wembley being finished

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

238 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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RichUK said:
jimbeaux said:
hoddo said:
I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/


I am a lifelong US football fan. University level mostly (I played). NFL fan as well. However, I believe this will never work. Even if Euro-types like the sport, I doubt that anybody can field a team to compete with current NFL ones....unless they form the league out of Europeans alone. If they are meant to compete with US NFL teams, then it will take some years to become competative, like it took us to stay on the soccer field with you guys. Before anybody says the words "Rugby players"....sorry, they wouldn't last a minute.



Edited by jimbeaux on Monday 12th February 14:59


Not sure what you mean, as essentially what they are doing is playing one of the regular week 8 NFL games at Wembley* next season.

* Subject of course to Wembley being finished


That's different. Usually, they would do an "exibition game" in Japan every year but it didn't count. So, they are simply going to play a regular season game in the UK? I guess what I am wondering is are they just looking to expand the audience or expand teams into Europe?

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

238 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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richburley said:
jimbeaux said:
hoddo said:
I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/


I am a lifelong US football fan. University level mostly (I played). NFL fan as well. However, I believe this will never work. Even if Euro-types like the sport, I doubt that anybody can field a team to compete with current NFL ones....unless they form the league out of Europeans alone. If they are meant to compete with US NFL teams, then it will take some years to become competative, like it took us to stay on the soccer field with you guys. Before anybody says the words "Rugby players"....sorry, they wouldn't last a minute.



Edited by jimbeaux on Monday 12th February 14:59

nope, I'm sure they wouldn't. but likewise, the "Gridiron" hehe players would get hammered by a rugby team, at rugby!


At first I'd be inclined to say you're right. However, given the unique size, strength, speed combination of the NFL players....that would be interesting!

unrepentant

21,671 posts

263 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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jimbeaux said:

That's different. Usually, they would do an "exibition game" in Japan every year but it didn't count. So, they are simply going to play a regular season game in the UK? I guess what I am wondering is are they just looking to expand the audience or expand teams into Europe?


This is a regular season game and is in fact a Miami home game. So Dolphins fans will only get 7 rather than 8 home field games next season which is quite a sacrifice.

The aim is to increase the exposure of the NFL in europe. Apparently they had 5000,000 ticket requests within hours of the announcement.

richburley

2,432 posts

260 months

Monday 12th February 2007
quotequote all
jimbeaux said:
richburley said:
jimbeaux said:
hoddo said:
I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/


I am a lifelong US football fan. University level mostly (I played). NFL fan as well. However, I believe this will never work. Even if Euro-types like the sport, I doubt that anybody can field a team to compete with current NFL ones....unless they form the league out of Europeans alone. If they are meant to compete with US NFL teams, then it will take some years to become competative, like it took us to stay on the soccer field with you guys. Before anybody says the words "Rugby players"....sorry, they wouldn't last a minute.



Edited by jimbeaux on Monday 12th February 14:59

nope, I'm sure they wouldn't. but likewise, the "Gridiron" hehe players would get hammered by a rugby team, at rugby!


At first I'd be inclined to say you're right. However, given the unique size, strength, speed combination of the NFL players....that would be interesting!


Perhaps, but they'd be required to take off their padding and helmets to play rugby, it'd only be fair!

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

238 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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unrepentant said:
jimbeaux said:

That's different. Usually, they would do an "exibition game" in Japan every year but it didn't count. So, they are simply going to play a regular season game in the UK? I guess what I am wondering is are they just looking to expand the audience or expand teams into Europe?


This is a regular season game and is in fact a Miami home game. So Dolphins fans will only get 7 rather than 8 home field games next season which is quite a sacrifice.

The aim is to increase the exposure of the NFL in europe. Apparently they had 5000,000 ticket requests within hours of the announcement.


Is that 500,000 or 5,000,000? Either way, I am surprised.

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

238 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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richburley said:
jimbeaux said:
richburley said:
jimbeaux said:
hoddo said:
I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/


I am a lifelong US football fan. University level mostly (I played). NFL fan as well. However, I believe this will never work. Even if Euro-types like the sport, I doubt that anybody can field a team to compete with current NFL ones....unless they form the league out of Europeans alone. If they are meant to compete with US NFL teams, then it will take some years to become competative, like it took us to stay on the soccer field with you guys. Before anybody says the words "Rugby players"....sorry, they wouldn't last a minute.



Edited by jimbeaux on Monday 12th February 14:59

nope, I'm sure they wouldn't. but likewise, the "Gridiron" hehe players would get hammered by a rugby team, at rugby!


At first I'd be inclined to say you're right. However, given the unique size, strength, speed combination of the NFL players....that would be interesting!


Perhaps, but they'd be required to take off their padding and helmets to play rugby, it'd only be fair!


True. But remember, that gear is not so much for protection as it is a weapon.

unrepentant

21,671 posts

263 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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jimbeaux said:
unrepentant said:
jimbeaux said:

That's different. Usually, they would do an "exibition game" in Japan every year but it didn't count. So, they are simply going to play a regular season game in the UK? I guess what I am wondering is are they just looking to expand the audience or expand teams into Europe?


This is a regular season game and is in fact a Miami home game. So Dolphins fans will only get 7 rather than 8 home field games next season which is quite a sacrifice.

The aim is to increase the exposure of the NFL in europe. Apparently they had 5000,000 ticket requests within hours of the announcement.


Is that 500,000 or 5,000,000? Either way, I am surprised.



Oops. My mistake. 500,000 (half a million). That was last week though.

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

238 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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unrepentant said:
jimbeaux said:
unrepentant said:
jimbeaux said:

That's different. Usually, they would do an "exibition game" in Japan every year but it didn't count. So, they are simply going to play a regular season game in the UK? I guess what I am wondering is are they just looking to expand the audience or expand teams into Europe?


This is a regular season game and is in fact a Miami home game. So Dolphins fans will only get 7 rather than 8 home field games next season which is quite a sacrifice.

The aim is to increase the exposure of the NFL in europe. Apparently they had 5000,000 ticket requests within hours of the announcement.


Is that 500,000 or 5,000,000? Either way, I am surprised.



Oops. My mistake. 500,000 (half a million). That was last week though.



Too bad those two teams are likely to be lame the upcoming season!

ewenm

28,506 posts

252 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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jimbeaux said:
richburley said:
jimbeaux said:
richburley said:
jimbeaux said:
hoddo said:
I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/


I am a lifelong US football fan. University level mostly (I played). NFL fan as well. However, I believe this will never work. Even if Euro-types like the sport, I doubt that anybody can field a team to compete with current NFL ones....unless they form the league out of Europeans alone. If they are meant to compete with US NFL teams, then it will take some years to become competative, like it took us to stay on the soccer field with you guys. Before anybody says the words "Rugby players"....sorry, they wouldn't last a minute.



Edited by jimbeaux on Monday 12th February 14:59

nope, I'm sure they wouldn't. but likewise, the "Gridiron" hehe players would get hammered by a rugby team, at rugby!


At first I'd be inclined to say you're right. However, given the unique size, strength, speed combination of the NFL players....that would be interesting!


Perhaps, but they'd be required to take off their padding and helmets to play rugby, it'd only be fair!


True. But remember, that gear is not so much for protection as it is a weapon.

They'd also need to learn how to tackle - just charging into someone isn't allowed in Rugby. The penalty count could be quite high.

unrepentant

21,671 posts

263 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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jimbeaux said:



Too bad those two teams are likely to be lame the upcoming season!



I dunno. Eli Manning is one of the real hot up and coming qb's. Who knows? The Bears were derided all season but reached the Superbowl.

monkeyhanger

9,236 posts

249 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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ewenm said:

They'd also need to learn how to tackle - just charging into someone isn't allowed in Rugby. The penalty count could be quite high.


Not forgetting that they'd be somewhat confused when play doesn't stop every 20 seconds for a "Message from our sponsors"

unrepentant

21,671 posts

263 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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monkeyhanger said:
ewenm said:

They'd also need to learn how to tackle - just charging into someone isn't allowed in Rugby. The penalty count could be quite high.


Not forgetting that they'd be somewhat confused when play doesn't stop every 20 seconds for a "Message from our sponsors"



To those of you who wish to deride NFL players I would ask you this. How many British players have made it in the NFL? The answer is hardly any (ever). One or two kickers and a couple of v minor backup onfield players. By contrast there are a lot of Americans in the football Premiership and Champioship here. (My own club Reading has 2). Given that the average pay is huge in the NFL (particularly compared to Rugby) I would imagine that British rugby players would be flocking over there if they had the requisite skills.

And play does not stop for ad breaks. They put ad breaks in when the play stops, which given that both teams change all their personnel when possession and the clock stops wheneveer a pass is incomplete changes is quite often.

BrianTheYank

7,585 posts

257 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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too bad american football is crap

doksie

498 posts

228 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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hoddo said:
I am aware that most PH members will not be interested in this event but it could be a rather interesting spectacle at the new Wembly.


www.nfllondon2007.com/



i applied 4 tickets when watching the superbowl,whether i get them or not is a different story. only been watching NFL for 2 seasons but really enjoying it.....not sure which team to support yet thoughscratchchin. would love 2 watch a live game in the states whilst drinking a cold beerdrink.....hmmmm,imagine the riots in English/Scottish football(soccer) if you could drink a beer in the terraces.punch


Edited by doksie on Monday 12th February 18:46

monkeyhanger

9,236 posts

249 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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unrepentant said:



To those of you who wish to deride NFL players I would ask you this. How many British players have made it in the NFL? The answer is hardly any (ever). One or two kickers and a couple of v minor backup onfield players. By contrast there are a lot of Americans in the football Premiership and Champioship here. (My own club Reading has 2). Given that the average pay is huge in the NFL (particularly compared to Rugby) I would imagine that British rugby players would be flocking over there if they had the requisite skills.

And play does not stop for ad breaks. They put ad breaks in when the play stops, which given that both teams change all their personnel when possession and the clock stops wheneveer a pass is incomplete changes is quite often.



rofl

Toys / pram moment ?