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Mixed feelings, think he is a decent bloke who comes across well
and genuinley wanted the best for the hammers & at times got us we playing some decenty footy
However I question the knowledge of anyone who picks Christian Daily!
Plus he struggled to get the best of our some of former players e.g. Carrick & Defoe, also some of transtional players he brought in were of questionable quality, e.g. Horlock, Harley etc etc
Also Pards appeared to lack bottle to drop some of the regulars,
Reo Cocker has not had 1 decent game, Konchesky has been poor
Mullins & Ethers patchy.
I wish him well & just hope we dont get the clueless swede.
and genuinley wanted the best for the hammers & at times got us we playing some decenty footy
However I question the knowledge of anyone who picks Christian Daily!
Plus he struggled to get the best of our some of former players e.g. Carrick & Defoe, also some of transtional players he brought in were of questionable quality, e.g. Horlock, Harley etc etc
Also Pards appeared to lack bottle to drop some of the regulars,
Reo Cocker has not had 1 decent game, Konchesky has been poor
Mullins & Ethers patchy.
I wish him well & just hope we dont get the clueless swede.
Thought he was better than he is and made some dreadful buys, especially the Argies. It's one thing buying 'em but another to use 'em in the right way and he didn't.
Honest bloke - which was refreshing but that's not enough nowadays rightly or wrongly.
No doubt will resurface in a lower league and work himself up again ...
Honest bloke - which was refreshing but that's not enough nowadays rightly or wrongly.
No doubt will resurface in a lower league and work himself up again ...
Mikey, showing your lack of knowledge here if I may say so.
Firstly, he didn't buy the Argies, they were forced on him by Joorabchian the prospective new owner and he was given 12 hrs notice prior to their arrival. Secondly, can you tell me how you would have played 2 guys who haven't played in 3 months in one of the fastest most physical leagues in the world, which they also havent ever played in before?
He'll be at another Premiership club very soon you wait and see. Charlton I reckon.
Bad decesion by the board, very bad decesion. There will be a huge hammers fans backlash at this.
And how can Egg head say 8 days ago that Pards is very much a member of the club and features in his plans, then 2 matches later sack him. How can we ever trust anything he says again.
Shocking, if Pards is a Piston head and reads this, you have my sympathies mate, you were very harshly treated.
Firstly, he didn't buy the Argies, they were forced on him by Joorabchian the prospective new owner and he was given 12 hrs notice prior to their arrival. Secondly, can you tell me how you would have played 2 guys who haven't played in 3 months in one of the fastest most physical leagues in the world, which they also havent ever played in before?
He'll be at another Premiership club very soon you wait and see. Charlton I reckon.
Bad decesion by the board, very bad decesion. There will be a huge hammers fans backlash at this.
And how can Egg head say 8 days ago that Pards is very much a member of the club and features in his plans, then 2 matches later sack him. How can we ever trust anything he says again.
Shocking, if Pards is a Piston head and reads this, you have my sympathies mate, you were very harshly treated.
Alan Devonshire summed it up yesterday on SKY when he said that the players werent up to it and most had come up from lower clubs and had one good season, got their extended contracts started to believe in their own publicity about how good they were and have been found out
I have not really been a great fan of Pardew from day 1 - yes he got us up, but we poor for both seasons on the Championship and he made some bizzare tactical decisions - last year was great, but he had a pretty stable squad and all played out of their skins, this year, he has brought in more players to cope with the expected numer of fixtures due to the Uefa cup and all of a sudden, this and the addition of the Argies, has meant that has had choices and showed he didnt know what to do with them. From what I have seen this year, ReoCoker has been awful and still plays every week, Konchesky has been dire and cant cross or pass (yes I know he scored in the final but that was a cross) Etherington and Benayoun keep going missing and less said about Zamora the better - BUT, Pardew still kept picking them and giving them extended contracts! Ashton would have made a difference but its just typical of West Ham that he gets injured in the way he did.
Its a fine margin though, against Everton we could have gone 1-0 up, against the Italians we should have scored just before they did, against Wigan our deflection hits the post, theirs goes in - if those had gone for us we may still be in Europe and mid table: Last year, those sort of things went in our favour!
So, whilst Pardew is a nice bloke & honest and has made a difference at West Ham - was he the man to take us forward, I have to conclude that the answer is no - is Curbishley going to be any better, who knows but I cant wait to see how everyone reacts on SUnday and it would be just like us to put one over on Man U and get 3 points (or get stuffed 4-0) and I cant wait!!!
HH.
I have not really been a great fan of Pardew from day 1 - yes he got us up, but we poor for both seasons on the Championship and he made some bizzare tactical decisions - last year was great, but he had a pretty stable squad and all played out of their skins, this year, he has brought in more players to cope with the expected numer of fixtures due to the Uefa cup and all of a sudden, this and the addition of the Argies, has meant that has had choices and showed he didnt know what to do with them. From what I have seen this year, ReoCoker has been awful and still plays every week, Konchesky has been dire and cant cross or pass (yes I know he scored in the final but that was a cross) Etherington and Benayoun keep going missing and less said about Zamora the better - BUT, Pardew still kept picking them and giving them extended contracts! Ashton would have made a difference but its just typical of West Ham that he gets injured in the way he did.
Its a fine margin though, against Everton we could have gone 1-0 up, against the Italians we should have scored just before they did, against Wigan our deflection hits the post, theirs goes in - if those had gone for us we may still be in Europe and mid table: Last year, those sort of things went in our favour!
So, whilst Pardew is a nice bloke & honest and has made a difference at West Ham - was he the man to take us forward, I have to conclude that the answer is no - is Curbishley going to be any better, who knows but I cant wait to see how everyone reacts on SUnday and it would be just like us to put one over on Man U and get 3 points (or get stuffed 4-0) and I cant wait!!!
HH.
HH
agreed, especially re tactics, playing harewood out wide, rebrov out wide,
playing rebrov in general really.
One area where he did change things for the better is back room / facilities & a more disicplined approach.
I think we are a bit more professional these days than the bonds / redknapp era of an hours five a side, egg & chips in the canteen followed by 10 pints in the slaters arms
What we need is a few seasons of mid table security, dont think the talk of CL footy has helped, unrealistic, just hope whoever comes in can keep us up have a resonable cup run & progress some of our youngsters into the 1st team squad.
agreed, especially re tactics, playing harewood out wide, rebrov out wide,
playing rebrov in general really.
One area where he did change things for the better is back room / facilities & a more disicplined approach.
I think we are a bit more professional these days than the bonds / redknapp era of an hours five a side, egg & chips in the canteen followed by 10 pints in the slaters arms
What we need is a few seasons of mid table security, dont think the talk of CL footy has helped, unrealistic, just hope whoever comes in can keep us up have a resonable cup run & progress some of our youngsters into the 1st team squad.
Edited by finchy on Tuesday 12th December 14:04
allgonepetetong said:
Shocking, if Pards is a Piston head and reads this, you have my sympathies mate, you were very harshly treated.
This is the same guy that walked out mid contract on Reading?
Thats sixth placed in the premiership Reading to you Mr Pardew. Remember that when you're signing on.
Edited by unrepentant on Tuesday 12th December 14:42
I think the chairman had one eye on the Reading game in a couple of weeks and thought he would save Pards the hassle!
Reading fans beware though, you are doing really well and fair play to that, but it could be you next year in the bottom 4, its a fickle game and you only need a few games where you dont get the luck and you may be in the same situation as the Hammers.
HH.
Reading fans beware though, you are doing really well and fair play to that, but it could be you next year in the bottom 4, its a fickle game and you only need a few games where you dont get the luck and you may be in the same situation as the Hammers.
HH.
herbie hammer said:
I think the chairman had one eye on the Reading game in a couple of weeks and thought he would save Pards the hassle!
Reading fans beware though, you are doing really well and fair play to that, but it could be you next year in the bottom 4, its a fickle game and you only need a few games where you dont get the luck and you may be in the same situation as the Hammers.
HH.
Reading fans beware though, you are doing really well and fair play to that, but it could be you next year in the bottom 4, its a fickle game and you only need a few games where you dont get the luck and you may be in the same situation as the Hammers.
HH.
I've always like West Ham and wish you well now.
Just hate Pardew.
I agree with the Christian Dailly comment. I'm also really scared whenever we start Teddy Sherringham. We must be piss poor if our main attacking threat is 40 years old.
I also agree with whoever said he never had the guts to drop key players. Although I think at some times everyone was playing so badly he didn't have much choice.
I did like the bloke, though. Ah well. Good luck to you, mate.
I also agree with whoever said he never had the guts to drop key players. Although I think at some times everyone was playing so badly he didn't have much choice.
I did like the bloke, though. Ah well. Good luck to you, mate.
some intresting stuff on Pardew although hes got the sack the daggers will be out. dont knwo whats true though.
heard as wel that he had a nick name of chocolate. (meaning he could eat himself if he could i think) he was stupid and should of dropped Reo and Kon months ago. Curbs is meant to have about 25 mill to spend and is lookign to lash out 10 mill on Bent from charlton... 15 mill to spend on 4 more player :S.. need more money
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ALAN PARDEW was kicked out of West Ham after bust-ups with key players threatened to wreck the club’s hope of staying up.
Just seven days after backing their boss, the club’s Icelandic owners wielded the axe and last night approached Alan Curbishley to become their new manager.
And chairman Eggert Magnusson has held talks with Curbishley today about taking over from Pardew.
Wigan’s Paul Jewell is also in the frame but Sven Goran Eriksson appears to be slipping out of the running.
It is understood Curbishley has major concerns over the influence of West Ham’s Icelandic owners and the fact they might interfere.
Gudmundsson and Magnusson, who gave Pardew just four games in charge after buying the club, also rate Terry Venables and Croatian boss Slaven Bilic.
They have also talked about bringing in a major name from abroad such as Guus Hiddink — currently on a big-money deal with Russia — or German Ottmar Hitzfeld.
Saturday’s 4-0 defeat at Bolton was the last straw and Pardew was fired yesterday morning.
Pardew had also lost some of the dressing room and suffered a series of bust-ups with players. These included Anton Ferdinand, Shaun Newton, Yossi Benayoun, Bobby Zamora and Javier Mascherano.
Kia Joorabchian, who owns the rights to Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez and who failed in his West Ham takeover bid, hopes Curbishley will join the club.
He said: “I believe Alan Curbishley is the best man for the job and the man who can get them out of trouble.
JOORABCHIAN ... advice
JOORABCHIAN ... advice
“I think Carlos and Javier would be pleased if Curbs came in. He has a good track record and will instil confidence.”
Curbishley will be offered £1million a year in wages.
Yesterday, Pardew gave a speech to them after training before clearing his desk.
In a statement, he said: “I am proud of my achievements at West Ham United.
“When I took the helm they were in the Championship and struggling to find direction.
“In two consecutive seasons we qualified for the play-off final, ultimately achieving the Premiership status the club so richly deserve.”
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"Talksport are reporting he's already signed a pre contract with Arse"
NIGEL REO-COKER last night lifted the lid on his West Ham agony and begged: “Don’t blame me for Alan Pardew’s axing.”
The Hammers skipper insists he is sick to death of people holding him responsible for chairman Eggert Magnusson’s ruthless decision to chop boss Alan Pardew on Monday.
He told SunSport: “Everyone keeps saying I should be sacked and it’s all my fault we’ve been doing so bad.”
Reo-Coker has failed to live up to his superstar displays of last season, when he not only led West Ham to the FA Cup final but also broke into the England set-up.
The midfielder has been blamed by fans for an alarming run of form which has seen the Upton Park outfit plummet into the Premiership drop zone to leave a once-promising looking season in tatters.
Hammers sources reckon the 22-year-old has never been the same since Manchester United and Arsenal made late attempts to sign him before the transfer window closed in August — and a series of bust-ups with Pards hardly helped his cause, either.
Reo-Coker reacted furiously to being kept in the dark about interest from the Gunners and his relationship with the gaffer took a nose-dive when he threw his captain’s armband to the floor after being subbed during the 1-0 home defeat against Reading in October.
Even some senior pros have become frustrated with his attitude.
But Reo-Coker blasted back: “Alan’s departure was a massive shock to everyone.
“Alan is a really great bloke and I can’t believe it has happened now.
“We had no idea he was going to get sacked. Half the team had left training when Pardew came out to tell everyone he was leaving.
“I called him later for a private chat and he thanked me for being a great captain. Unfortunately, a lot of people don’t feel the same way.
“I’ve really been getting it in the neck. I’ve had so much flak but no one knows what it is like behind the scenes and what has really been going on with the team.
“Now Pardew has gone it’s only going to get worse for me, with people pointing the finger.”
Alan Curbishley, who was boss at Charlton from 1991 until May this year, is the red-hot favourite to fill the hotseat and was last night locked in talks with Hammers chiefs at Upton Park.
Reo-Coker wants the situation sorted sooner rather than later and added: “We will find out for definite by Friday who the manager will be.
“But we don’t have a say in any of the decisions and have no idea what the boys upstairs are thinking.”
Chairman Magnusson addressed the team in a private meeting to explain why he gave Pardew, 45, the boot.
A source revealed: “The atmosphere has been grim — it was as if someone had died.
“Magnusson called the meeting to clear the air.”
The players had planned to cancel their Christmas celebrations last night out of respect for Pardew. But backroom staff eventually persuaded them to go ahead — to try to raise team morale.
The source added: “The lads didn’t feel like partying.
“They thought it would be in bad taste to be seen out on the town so soon after Alan had left.
“But they need something to lift the mood before the weekend.”
Meanwhile, former Hammers midfielder Curbs, 49, is the choice of West Ham legend Martin Peters to take over from Pardew.
The 1966 World Cup-winner said: “I was very disappointed to see Alan go because I thought he had done a great job.
“OK, they have been on a bad run but you just cannot forget the work he has done over the last three years.
“It’s a real shame but I think Alan Curbishley would do a good job.
“He’s a West Ham man so it would certainly help him settle into the club — and the fans will back him from the start.
“It’s not as if a complete stranger will be arriving at Upton Park — not unless Mr Magnusson has some unheard-of Icelandic boss waiting in the wings. Curbs is a safe choice.”
www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006570515,00.html
heard as wel that he had a nick name of chocolate. (meaning he could eat himself if he could i think) he was stupid and should of dropped Reo and Kon months ago. Curbs is meant to have about 25 mill to spend and is lookign to lash out 10 mill on Bent from charlton... 15 mill to spend on 4 more player :S.. need more money
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ALAN PARDEW was kicked out of West Ham after bust-ups with key players threatened to wreck the club’s hope of staying up.
Just seven days after backing their boss, the club’s Icelandic owners wielded the axe and last night approached Alan Curbishley to become their new manager.
And chairman Eggert Magnusson has held talks with Curbishley today about taking over from Pardew.
Wigan’s Paul Jewell is also in the frame but Sven Goran Eriksson appears to be slipping out of the running.
It is understood Curbishley has major concerns over the influence of West Ham’s Icelandic owners and the fact they might interfere.
Gudmundsson and Magnusson, who gave Pardew just four games in charge after buying the club, also rate Terry Venables and Croatian boss Slaven Bilic.
They have also talked about bringing in a major name from abroad such as Guus Hiddink — currently on a big-money deal with Russia — or German Ottmar Hitzfeld.
Saturday’s 4-0 defeat at Bolton was the last straw and Pardew was fired yesterday morning.
Pardew had also lost some of the dressing room and suffered a series of bust-ups with players. These included Anton Ferdinand, Shaun Newton, Yossi Benayoun, Bobby Zamora and Javier Mascherano.
Kia Joorabchian, who owns the rights to Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez and who failed in his West Ham takeover bid, hopes Curbishley will join the club.
He said: “I believe Alan Curbishley is the best man for the job and the man who can get them out of trouble.
JOORABCHIAN ... advice
JOORABCHIAN ... advice
“I think Carlos and Javier would be pleased if Curbs came in. He has a good track record and will instil confidence.”
Curbishley will be offered £1million a year in wages.
Yesterday, Pardew gave a speech to them after training before clearing his desk.
In a statement, he said: “I am proud of my achievements at West Ham United.
“When I took the helm they were in the Championship and struggling to find direction.
“In two consecutive seasons we qualified for the play-off final, ultimately achieving the Premiership status the club so richly deserve.”
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"Talksport are reporting he's already signed a pre contract with Arse"
NIGEL REO-COKER last night lifted the lid on his West Ham agony and begged: “Don’t blame me for Alan Pardew’s axing.”
The Hammers skipper insists he is sick to death of people holding him responsible for chairman Eggert Magnusson’s ruthless decision to chop boss Alan Pardew on Monday.
He told SunSport: “Everyone keeps saying I should be sacked and it’s all my fault we’ve been doing so bad.”
Reo-Coker has failed to live up to his superstar displays of last season, when he not only led West Ham to the FA Cup final but also broke into the England set-up.
The midfielder has been blamed by fans for an alarming run of form which has seen the Upton Park outfit plummet into the Premiership drop zone to leave a once-promising looking season in tatters.
Hammers sources reckon the 22-year-old has never been the same since Manchester United and Arsenal made late attempts to sign him before the transfer window closed in August — and a series of bust-ups with Pards hardly helped his cause, either.
Reo-Coker reacted furiously to being kept in the dark about interest from the Gunners and his relationship with the gaffer took a nose-dive when he threw his captain’s armband to the floor after being subbed during the 1-0 home defeat against Reading in October.
Even some senior pros have become frustrated with his attitude.
But Reo-Coker blasted back: “Alan’s departure was a massive shock to everyone.
“Alan is a really great bloke and I can’t believe it has happened now.
“We had no idea he was going to get sacked. Half the team had left training when Pardew came out to tell everyone he was leaving.
“I called him later for a private chat and he thanked me for being a great captain. Unfortunately, a lot of people don’t feel the same way.
“I’ve really been getting it in the neck. I’ve had so much flak but no one knows what it is like behind the scenes and what has really been going on with the team.
“Now Pardew has gone it’s only going to get worse for me, with people pointing the finger.”
Alan Curbishley, who was boss at Charlton from 1991 until May this year, is the red-hot favourite to fill the hotseat and was last night locked in talks with Hammers chiefs at Upton Park.
Reo-Coker wants the situation sorted sooner rather than later and added: “We will find out for definite by Friday who the manager will be.
“But we don’t have a say in any of the decisions and have no idea what the boys upstairs are thinking.”
Chairman Magnusson addressed the team in a private meeting to explain why he gave Pardew, 45, the boot.
A source revealed: “The atmosphere has been grim — it was as if someone had died.
“Magnusson called the meeting to clear the air.”
The players had planned to cancel their Christmas celebrations last night out of respect for Pardew. But backroom staff eventually persuaded them to go ahead — to try to raise team morale.
The source added: “The lads didn’t feel like partying.
“They thought it would be in bad taste to be seen out on the town so soon after Alan had left.
“But they need something to lift the mood before the weekend.”
Meanwhile, former Hammers midfielder Curbs, 49, is the choice of West Ham legend Martin Peters to take over from Pardew.
The 1966 World Cup-winner said: “I was very disappointed to see Alan go because I thought he had done a great job.
“OK, they have been on a bad run but you just cannot forget the work he has done over the last three years.
“It’s a real shame but I think Alan Curbishley would do a good job.
“He’s a West Ham man so it would certainly help him settle into the club — and the fans will back him from the start.
“It’s not as if a complete stranger will be arriving at Upton Park — not unless Mr Magnusson has some unheard-of Icelandic boss waiting in the wings. Curbs is a safe choice.”
www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006570515,00.html
allgonepetetong said:
Mikey, showing your lack of knowledge here if I may say so.
Firstly, he didn't buy the Argies, they were forced on him by Joorabchian the prospective new owner and he was given 12 hrs notice prior to their arrival. Secondly, can you tell me how you would have played 2 guys who haven't played in 3 months in one of the fastest most physical leagues in the world, which they also havent ever played in before?
He'll be at another Premiership club very soon you wait and see. Charlton I reckon.
Bad decesion by the board, very bad decesion. There will be a huge hammers fans backlash at this.
And how can Egg head say 8 days ago that Pards is very much a member of the club and features in his plans, then 2 matches later sack him. How can we ever trust anything he says again.
Shocking, if Pards is a Piston head and reads this, you have my sympathies mate, you were very harshly treated.
Firstly, he didn't buy the Argies, they were forced on him by Joorabchian the prospective new owner and he was given 12 hrs notice prior to their arrival. Secondly, can you tell me how you would have played 2 guys who haven't played in 3 months in one of the fastest most physical leagues in the world, which they also havent ever played in before?
He'll be at another Premiership club very soon you wait and see. Charlton I reckon.
Bad decesion by the board, very bad decesion. There will be a huge hammers fans backlash at this.
And how can Egg head say 8 days ago that Pards is very much a member of the club and features in his plans, then 2 matches later sack him. How can we ever trust anything he says again.
Shocking, if Pards is a Piston head and reads this, you have my sympathies mate, you were very harshly treated.
Come on. i dont think anyone can say that it was bad decision. he was top to be axed weeks ago. its not like he hasnt had the games to turn it arround!!!
Hes made some bad decisions with the payer choices. he lost the changing room weeks ago and there been reports all season hes had bustups with players. and the plaeyrs hes bought....
Mears, Spector, Cole, Panstil, Melville, Harley, Stockdale, Alliadiere, the french bloke on loan from Man Utd.
alll shit!
ohh well i liked him but this season has gone tits up. we do have quality. and its the managers job to ensure that all the player gel and fit in. Not like whats been happening with the team. players being played week in and week out and the Argies lookign like they have been isolated.
alpha1 said:
Hes made some bad decisions with the payer choices. he lost the changing room weeks ago and there been reports all season hes had bustups with players. and the plaeyrs hes bought....
Mears, Spector, Cole, Panstil, Melville, Harley, Stockdale, Alliadiere, the french bloke on loan from Man Utd.
alll shit!
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When you see that lot, it almost ranks with Harrys list - Song, Futre, Radiciou, TitiCamara, Dailly, Todorov, Hutchison - the list goes on!!!
HH
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