Justice for Thatcher ?

Justice for Thatcher ?

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lazyitus

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19,926 posts

272 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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The Beeb said:
Manchester City have banned their defender Ben Thatcher for six matches and fined him six weeks' wages for his challenge on Portsmouth's Pedro Mendes.

The internal club punishment is seperate from any Football Association sanctions over the incident, which left Mendes unconscious.

City said two matches of the six-game ban would be suspended.

Thatcher was left out of the weekend's Arsenal match, which means he will now sit out a further three games.

Those games will be the 11 September trip to Reading, and the away games at Blackburn on 17 September and Chesterfield three days later.

Manchester City chief executive Alistair Mackintosh said: "As custodians of the club, and football in general, the board and the manager felt it was important to act as soon as possible."

Thatcher, who has written to Mendes to apologise for the challenge, must answer an FA charge of serious foul play by 12 September.

Mendes has said he will not pursue a legal claim against Thatcher but the Portuguese midfielder did urge the FA to "make the right decision on his punishment".


scratchchin

I'd say yes, probably.

hugoagogo

23,379 posts

239 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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i'd say no
it was assault

6 month ban would be more like it

fozzi

3,773 posts

246 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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It's good to see a top club finally taking action against one of their own players, but would have preferred to see him out for the full six games... if not longer!!

Edited by fozzi on Wednesday 30th August 20:16

lazyitus

Original Poster:

19,926 posts

272 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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fozzi said:
It's good to see a top club finally taking action against one of their own players


I don't think they had much choice in this one.

unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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It was at least as vicious as Cantonas kick on that fan, and the Frenchman was provoked. What did he get?

staceyb

7,107 posts

230 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I would have thought the police would have got hold of this by now, look what happened with the bowyer/dyer incident.

planetdave

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259 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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unrepentant said:
It was at least as vicious as Cantonas kick on that fan, and the Frenchman was provoked. What did he get?


I'd call the Cantona kick an assault but the Thatcher one deffo ABH.

Can't see why the feds aren't involved. Fergusons headbut was nought in comparison.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

255 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Well that would do for starters but i would feel hard done by if i was Duncan Ferguson,it wouldnt go a miss if the old bill pulled Thugcher in for a warning atleast just to show any onlookers that this sort of behaviour is not to be tolerated and i echo again if someone on the street had got caught on CCTV leaving someone out cold with a fore arm smash like what was demonstrated they would be looking at a custodial sentence.

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

261 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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ZR1cliff said:
Well that would do for starters but i would feel hard done by if i was Duncan Ferguson


The very reason he refused to play for the Scottish FA as they would not support him at all.. I think he is still the only person ever to have been sent to prison for an on field incident, despite all the events we have seen. Thatcher, Cantona, Keane, etc...

abz

376 posts

235 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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only a ban for a season or 2 would be sufficient- this guys got a bad history of this kind of assualt. in a pre-season 'friendly' in the far east last month he elbowed a player in the back, punctured his lung and won't be able to play again . the ref missed it and thatcher has never been punished. football doesn't need him...

fozzi

3,773 posts

246 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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abz said:
only a ban for a season or 2 would be sufficient- this guys got a bad history of this kind of assualt. in a pre-season 'friendly' in the far east last month he elbowed a player in the back, punctured his lung and won't be able to play again . the ref missed it and thatcher has never been punished. football doesn't need him...

eek..... do you have a link to this story?!

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

255 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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Plus ime sure ime right in saying he 'did' the Sunderland player back in 2000.
Suggestion,...why not take him down to Pompey City Centre this Saturday night and see if he's so brave to kick it off down there,ile bet he wont be so forthcoming with the elbow then,blokes an @rse.

unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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ZR1cliff said:
Plus ime sure ime right in saying he 'did' the Sunderland player back in 2000.
Suggestion,...why not take him down to Pompey City Centre this Saturday night and see if he's so brave to kick it off down there,ile bet he wont be so forthcoming with the elbow then,blokes an @rse.


Nicky Summerbee? Elbow again.

Marki

15,763 posts

276 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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He should be kicked out of the game permanently he is a disgrace

abz

376 posts

235 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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fozzi said:
abz said:
only a ban for a season or 2 would be sufficient- this guys got a bad history of this kind of assualt. in a pre-season 'friendly' in the far east last month he elbowed a player in the back, punctured his lung and won't be able to play again . the ref missed it and thatcher has never been punished. football doesn't need him...

eek..... do you have a link to this story?!


couple of quotes detailing his previous history...

"The incident was the second time in as many months that a Thatcher elbow had hospitalised an opponent, following an incident in a pre-season tour of China. The player isn't new to controversy as he has produced similar challenges against Nicky Summerbee (playing for Wimbledon against Sunderland) and Allan Nielsen of Spurs"

"Thatcher is a man with previous when it comes to on-field acts of violence. On the Blues' pre-season tour of China the former Spurs player was sent off against Shanghai for two bookable offences but not before putting an opponent in hospital with a punctured lung after a similar challenge to last night's."

i reckon it should be bye bye for good...

Wacky Racer

38,800 posts

253 months

Thursday 31st August 2006
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unrepentant said:
It was at least as vicious as Cantonas kick on that fan.....



http://youtube.com/watch?v=m7gtrZ1vid


unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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Wacky Racer said:
unrepentant said:
It was at least as vicious as Cantonas kick on that fan.....



http://youtube.com/watch?v=m7gtrZ1vid





The only known case of the shi t hitting the fan.

Edited by unrepentant on Friday 1st September 09:29

planetdave

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259 months

Friday 1st September 2006
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Wacky Racer said:
unrepentant said:
It was at least as vicious as Cantonas kick on that fan.....



http://youtube.com/watch?v=m7gtrZ1vid




Yep - can see why he got the ban for that. I see the main difference in that the fan could see it coming - Mendes might have been aware that a 'tackle' was coming but not an elbow aimed at the head + fantastically well timed swing. He would have ducked!

I can see Thatch claiming that it was mis-timed...but whatever he says the fact remains that if you are going to collide you put your hands up to take the shock........and you deffo don't twist your torso...in my marital arts days that would have got a round of applause for cracking timing and follow through.