The Enhanced Games. Where doping is okay..!

The Enhanced Games. Where doping is okay..!

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rjfp1962

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8,354 posts

80 months

Thursday 29th June 2023
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All the competitive sport with a difference - Drug use is encouraged.!

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2023...



Edited by rjfp1962 on Friday 30th June 10:15

AlexRS2782

8,173 posts

220 months

Friday 30th June 2023
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Your link appears to be a PH link to start a new thread.

A couple of links from a Google search to keep the topic active until OP finds his original link

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2023...

https://apnews.com/article/australia-olympics-enha...

rjfp1962

Original Poster:

8,354 posts

80 months

Friday 30th June 2023
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AlexRS2782 said:
Your link appears to be a PH link to start a new thread.

A couple of links from a Google search to keep the topic active until OP finds his original link

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2023...

https://apnews.com/article/australia-olympics-enha...
Ooop's..., sorry! now corrected. smile Think I must have taken something rofl

Randy Winkman

17,718 posts

196 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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Is this being done by someone who is trying to make a political point (see reference to capitalism)? I struggle to see which elite athletes, swimmers etc are going to want to jeopardise years of training effort by openly taking drugs for something like this. For instance, why would a current or even potential 100 metres (track) champion throw away their career for this? I guess the men's 100 metres might be won in about 10 seconds by a "didn't-quite-make-it has-been" who could only run 11 seconds without the help. Might make them a few thousand though but I think it would only get an audience as a one off event. Strength/combat sports might be different; track and field is my thing.

Edited by Randy Winkman on Sunday 2nd July 09:38

Mr Penguin

2,709 posts

46 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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It's a good idea apart from the fact that nobody serious will participate.

geeks

9,733 posts

146 months

Tuesday 4th July 2023
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Russ35

2,561 posts

246 months

Tuesday 4th July 2023
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said:
  • This was in response to somebody who appears to have deleted their post while I was formatting the table **
For London 2012 the final count was apparently

Sport Total banned
Athletics 91
Weightlifting 34
Cycling 4
Wrestling 4
Canoeing 1
Gymnastics 1
Judo 1
Rowing 1
Swimming 1


I've no problem with the general idea, although the thought of combat sports being allowed is a bit scary. Competitors on god knows what chemical cocktails trying to physically harm each other.

I certainly wouldn't watch it. I watch sport to be entertained by competitors trying to be the best at their sport, wishing I had only a fraction of their talent be it speed, strength, dexterity, concentration etc.

I know that a percentage of those competitors will be using drugs, and I hope that they are caught and banned,

Edited by Russ35 on Tuesday 4th July 13:32

Randy Winkman

17,718 posts

196 months

Tuesday 4th July 2023
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My guess is that the majority of drug use in sports only happens because it isn't allowed so the people doing it are trying to get an unfair advantage by doing so. If it was allowed they wouldn't do it. What would be the point of everyone doing it and risking their health? Weight lifting and body building (is that a sport?) might be different though.

johnpsanderson

548 posts

207 months

Thursday 6th July 2023
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Randy Winkman said:
My guess is that the majority of drug use in sports only happens because it isn't allowed so people doing it are trying to get an unfair advantage by doing so. If it was allowed they wouldn't do it. What would be the point of everyone doing it and risking their health? Weight lifting and body building (is that a sport?) might be different though.
I’m sure there was once a study that asked athletes “if we could give you a pill that would mean you’d win gold at the next Olympics, but then die within 5 years, would you take it?” And the majority said ‘yes’.

I think elite sports people are fairly invested in what they’re doing and the want to win is pretty significant.

Also, worth considering tha doping doesn’t affect all athletes the same, some get greater improvements than others for the same, so there would always be a potential benefit even if everyone else was doing the same.

andyA700

3,310 posts

44 months

Friday 7th July 2023
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johnpsanderson said:
Randy Winkman said:
My guess is that the majority of drug use in sports only happens because it isn't allowed so people doing it are trying to get an unfair advantage by doing so. If it was allowed they wouldn't do it. What would be the point of everyone doing it and risking their health? Weight lifting and body building (is that a sport?) might be different though.
I’m sure there was once a study that asked athletes “if we could give you a pill that would mean you’d win gold at the next Olympics, but then die within 5 years, would you take it?” And the majority said ‘yes’.

I think elite sports people are fairly invested in what they’re doing and the want to win is pretty significant.

Also, worth considering tha doping doesn’t affect all athletes the same, some get greater improvements than others for the same, so there would always be a potential benefit even if everyone else was doing the same.
Unfortunately, what you have said is true. I have played a couple of sports at county level and I have had suspicions about who may or may not be doping, you can tell about changes in bodyshape and performance.
Back in the eighties, the "golden boy" of US athletics was Carl Lewis, sprinter and long jumper. Atr the 1988 Olympics, Lewis was beaten in the 100m final by Ben Johnson of Canada who was subsequently DQ'd for doping, having tale Stanazolol a powerful anabolic steroid. However, what we didn't know at the time, was that Carl Lewis had failed three drug tests in the lead up to the Olympics, which were all covered up by US atheltics.
In 1984 virtually the whole US cycling team were blood doping.

https://web.stanford.edu/~learnest/cyclops/dopes.h...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases...

some bloke

1,202 posts

74 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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I would like to see a spectator at the Olympics being in one heat for every event - your ticket number goes into a draw and if you win, you get a go in the heats. This would make it easier to see how good the top athletes really are. If you have a field of sprinters all running 10.0 - 10.3 secs, it's not easy to see how good they are, but if Joe Average gets a shot and it takes them 18 seconds, you could see how good the athletes are in comparison. Mightn't work so well for ski jumping though.