Ukraine invasion: Poland refuses to play World Cup play-off

Ukraine invasion: Poland refuses to play World Cup play-off

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IAmTheWalrus

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1,049 posts

51 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-invasion-poland...

"Polish FA president, Cezary Kulesza, said on Twitter: "No more words, time to act! Due to the escalation of the aggression of the Russian Federation towards Ukraine the Polish national team does not intend to play the play-off match against Russia.""



OK so this is understandable, though I don't see any support for the war from Russian civilians? you can't really punish a country by not letting them play football?

craigjm

18,479 posts

207 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Why not?

Piginapoke

5,053 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Good on them

IAmTheWalrus

Original Poster:

1,049 posts

51 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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craigjm said:
Why not?
Because the footballer and their fans are not army officials... It doesn't hurt the country's finances or resources.

Divieto di Sosta

4,613 posts

86 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Keep up Walrus ,don't know how old you are but

Remember the Moscow Olympics boycott ?

Champions league final to be moved from Russia ?

Russia Formula 1 Grand Prix to be cancelled ?

IAmTheWalrus

Original Poster:

1,049 posts

51 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Divieto di Sosta said:
Keep up Walrus ,don't know how old you are but

Remember the Moscow Olympics boycott ?

Champions league final to be moved from Russia ?

Russia Formula 1 Grand Prix to be cancelled ?
39 but what is your point? My point is that it isn't going to be an effective way to punish Russia and I'll doubt the Russian players are backing the war either. Its just going to upset the dedicated sports players.

Greedydog

928 posts

202 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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IAmTheWalrus said:
Divieto di Sosta said:
Keep up Walrus ,don't know how old you are but

Remember the Moscow Olympics boycott ?

Champions league final to be moved from Russia ?

Russia Formula 1 Grand Prix to be cancelled ?
39 but what is your point? My point is that it isn't going to be an effective way to punish Russia and I'll doubt the Russian players are backing the war either. Its just going to upset the dedicated sports players.
With respect that's a pretty naive point of view. Coverage of the Ukraine invasion is spun very differently by the Russian government to the reality we see in the west. To a large extent Putin's actions are being driven by ego and how he wants to be seen by Russians. It is vitally important that the rest of the world shows its disgust and condemnation by every available means to deny him his propaganda victory. If that means kicking Russia out of everything from the World Cup to Eurovision, so be it. If they don't like it, maybe they should consider regime change.


IAmTheWalrus

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1,049 posts

51 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Greedydog said:
If they don't like it, maybe they should consider regime change.
Easier said than done. The people who care are powerless and the people with power don't care.

McGee_22

7,082 posts

186 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Russia and its people need to understand just how isolated they are by their Dictators murderous quest - they should be withdrawn from all International Sporting events until all Russian troops are withdrawn from Ukraine.

grumbledoak

31,844 posts

240 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Greedydog said:
With respect that's a pretty naive point of view. Coverage of the Ukraine invasion is spun very differently by the Russian government to the reality we see in the west. To a large extent Putin's actions are being driven by ego and how he wants to be seen by Russians. It is vitally important that the rest of the world shows its disgust and condemnation by every available means to deny him his propaganda victory. If that means kicking Russia out of everything from the World Cup to Eurovision, so be it. If they don't like it, maybe they should consider regime change.
rofl

Whats on Second

732 posts

40 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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ph loves pointless but attention grabbing displays of brotherly coupling by one former communist satellite state to another.

wonder if footie loving poles will be so understanding of this action ?


Pit Pony

9,242 posts

128 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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IAmTheWalrus said:
craigjm said:
Why not?
Because the footballer and their fans are not army officials... It doesn't hurt the country's finances or resources.
No, but if every Russian Football fan is persuaded to say "fk Putin, he's stopping us winning the world cup" then this is the start of mass dessention by the Russian people, and it might result in Putin getting his arse kicked by his own people.



bad company

19,471 posts

273 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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McGee_22 said:
Russia and its people need to understand just how isolated they are by their Dictators murderous quest - they should be withdrawn from all International Sporting events until all Russian troops are withdrawn from Ukraine.
Not just sporting events, they’ve also been banned from the Eurovision Song Contest. laugh

On a more serious note Russia should be banned from just about everything until their troops leave Ukraine.

Greedydog

928 posts

202 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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grumbledoak said:
Greedydog said:
With respect that's a pretty naive point of view. Coverage of the Ukraine invasion is spun very differently by the Russian government to the reality we see in the west. To a large extent Putin's actions are being driven by ego and how he wants to be seen by Russians. It is vitally important that the rest of the world shows its disgust and condemnation by every available means to deny him his propaganda victory. If that means kicking Russia out of everything from the World Cup to Eurovision, so be it. If they don't like it, maybe they should consider regime change.
rofl
Go on then, how is the western media spinning this? My Ukrainian AND Russian friends don't see any spin. What secret info do you have?

a_dreamer

2,031 posts

44 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Can't blame it being called off. Just seen shreeves asking Guardiola his thoughts and feelings on it. I mean, why is he asking? What does peps opinion matter and why have him have to make a statement on it. Same way they were asked about covid protocols.

Sport is sport. It's the most important of the least important things.

In terms of sending a message to Russia, firstly I doubt Putin gives a st, but it should have been FIFA but then they are probably still spending the money from the Russian world cup.

grumbledoak

31,844 posts

240 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Greedydog said:
Go on then, how is the western media spinning this? My Ukrainian AND Russian friends don't see any spin. What secret info do you have?
You and your Ukrainian AND Russian friends don't see any spin? Oh well, obviously then there isn't any.

rofl


Back on topic, Poland are free to make this gesture but I don't think it will achieve much.

Theraveda

400 posts

35 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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bad company said:
Not just sporting events, they’ve also been banned from the Eurovision Song Contest. laugh

On a more serious note Russia should be banned from just about everything until their troops leave Ukraine.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

IAmTheWalrus

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1,049 posts

51 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Pit Pony said:
IAmTheWalrus said:
craigjm said:
Why not?
Because the footballer and their fans are not army officials... It doesn't hurt the country's finances or resources.
No, but if every Russian Football fan is persuaded to say "fk Putin, he's stopping us winning the world cup" then this is the start of mass dessention by the Russian people, and it might result in Putin getting his arse kicked by his own people.
I disagree, it will only be the footballers, the football fans and the marketing entourage that has spent millions on marketing through them that will be annoyed.

Just look at Djokovic the tennis player, he doesn't get to go to play in the Australian Open, that was a downright fascist scenario to deny him playing tennis - A NON-CONTACT SPORT - unless he injects himself with some vaccine & chemicals... So the fans were disappointed and now we have a fake winner. This did not result in regime change.

abzmike

9,290 posts

113 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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IAmTheWalrus said:
Pit Pony said:
IAmTheWalrus said:
craigjm said:
Why not?
Because the footballer and their fans are not army officials... It doesn't hurt the country's finances or resources.
No, but if every Russian Football fan is persuaded to say "fk Putin, he's stopping us winning the world cup" then this is the start of mass dessention by the Russian people, and it might result in Putin getting his arse kicked by his own people.
I disagree, it will only be the footballers, the football fans and the marketing entourage that has spent millions on marketing through them that will be annoyed.

Just look at Djokovic the tennis player, he doesn't get to go to play in the Australian Open, that was a downright fascist scenario to deny him playing tennis - A NON-CONTACT SPORT - unless he injects himself with some vaccine & chemicals... So the fans were disappointed and now we have a fake winner. This did not result in regime change.
A fake winner? rather disrespectful to the guy that won and the other 127 in the draw.
Russia (well Putin) will be defeated in no small part by showing their citizens that Putin as turned them into a pariah state. Exclusion from all sport and culture is a free and easy way for the rest of the world to do that.

bad company

19,471 posts

273 months

Saturday 26th February 2022
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Theraveda said:
bad company said:
Not just sporting events, they’ve also been banned from the Eurovision Song Contest. laugh

On a more serious note Russia should be banned from just about everything until their troops leave Ukraine.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And this and anything else possible:-

Russian ballet visits to Northampton and Wolverhampton cancelled https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-6...