Kipchoge runs marathon in under 2 hours...
Discussion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/50025543
Not an official marathon record but, bloody hell, what an effort!!! Amazing
Not an official marathon record but, bloody hell, what an effort!!! Amazing
Awesome achievement.
To quote the BBC To break the mark, he had to run 100m in 17.08 seconds 422 times in a row at a speed of 21.1kph (13.1 mph). He did repetitive 14m 5k's
Ian Rutson Parkrun's tech director said only five of the 51,363,611 5k parkruns completed have been faster than Eliud Kipchoge's target pace
Stunning!
To quote the BBC To break the mark, he had to run 100m in 17.08 seconds 422 times in a row at a speed of 21.1kph (13.1 mph). He did repetitive 14m 5k's
Ian Rutson Parkrun's tech director said only five of the 51,363,611 5k parkruns completed have been faster than Eliud Kipchoge's target pace
Stunning!
Well, its an achievement for sure - on a helpful course with helpful shoes and a huge cast of top class pros running bizarre support patterns.( A phalanx of 5 runners shielding him from the wind, the pacemakers running only part of the course etc etc.. )
Its what, 3 minutes faster than the world best achieved without all that stuff.
I don't know, kind of leaves me a bit cold tbh
Its what, 3 minutes faster than the world best achieved without all that stuff.
I don't know, kind of leaves me a bit cold tbh
DKL said:
As soon as you start looking at the splits and pace it's frankly a staggering achievement.
4.5 min miles, 5k in 14 mins, 10 in 28.
Not a legitimate record but a milestone all the same, on a par with the 4 min mile.
I’m not really a runner, but I watched Eliud’s effort this morning, then went for a 10 Km run. I did the 10 Km in 1 hr, he did it in 28 minutes, then did the same thing, 4 and a bit times, non stop. That was quite an eye opener. 4.5 min miles, 5k in 14 mins, 10 in 28.
Not a legitimate record but a milestone all the same, on a par with the 4 min mile.
Dblue said:
Well, its an achievement for sure - on a helpful course with helpful shoes and a huge cast of top class pros running bizarre support patterns.( A phalanx of 5 runners shielding him from the wind, the pacemakers running only part of the course etc etc.. )
Its what, 3 minutes faster than the world best achieved without all that stuff.
I don't know, kind of leaves me a bit cold tbh
Considering he has the official marathon world record at 2:01:39, I think it’s fair for him to be able to test what’s possible given perfect conditions. He’s still run it on a road course, the major difference being he didn’t have to collect his own drinks. It’d be impossible for him to have pacemakers run the complete course with him as no ones capable of what he is. Its what, 3 minutes faster than the world best achieved without all that stuff.
I don't know, kind of leaves me a bit cold tbh
It’s still a decent comparison of man vs road and hopefully will give him the confidence to show he could get under 2 hours in official conditions.
Dblue said:
Its what, 3 minutes faster than the world best achieved without all that stuff.
2 minutes knocked off of his own official record. 2 minutes is a huge advance though, consider that it's only improved by 8 minutes total in the past 52 years.
Studies of ultimate human performance in 1991 and 2019 both concluded similar times around 1:58, so to get so much closer to that so soon is a big deal, I think allthe models had this sort of time years away yet.
I like to think I'm a reasonably fit 50 something but I'm honestly not sure I could run 100 meters in 17.08 seconds.
In some respects this challenge was a bit odd but wasn't the first 4 minute mile done in a similar way rather than in a race? And once it was done the floodgates opened. (Though I'm not entirely sure the same will happen here.)
In some respects this challenge was a bit odd but wasn't the first 4 minute mile done in a similar way rather than in a race? And once it was done the floodgates opened. (Though I'm not entirely sure the same will happen here.)
One of the best context things I've seen is a YouTube video showing a guy running on a treadmill at 6, 9 then 13mph. It's a mind blowing pace!
https://youtu.be/Ds21U7coQzI
https://youtu.be/Ds21U7coQzI
LaurasOtherHalf said:
thanks - enjoyed that! Awesome achievementRandy Winkman said:
I like to think I'm a reasonably fit 50 something but I'm honestly not sure I could run 100 meters in 17.08 seconds.
In some respects this challenge was a bit odd but wasn't the first 4 minute mile done in a similar way rather than in a race? And once it was done the floodgates opened. (Though I'm not entirely sure the same will happen here.)
what's even more mind blowing for me is that, in my youth I was relatively fit, and so the 100m/200m time is meh - but then you scale it up to 400m and I'd be puffing like a train but able to beat him.... then to do it another 104 times In some respects this challenge was a bit odd but wasn't the first 4 minute mile done in a similar way rather than in a race? And once it was done the floodgates opened. (Though I'm not entirely sure the same will happen here.)
I do some high intensity interval training on a treadmill (try it, it's great!) which is essentially three minutes at a jogging pace interspersed with sprints as fast as you can go for 30s. The max speed of the treadmill is 20kph, which I can keep up for 30s ok, but I wouldn't want to keep it up for much longer. That equates to 12.4mph, so slower that Kipchoge can do for 2hours! I did an off road marathon with some hills (Kielder) in 3.58 on Sunday, so like to think I'm reasonable fit, but sub 2hrs is just mind blowing!
Edited by gshughes on Tuesday 15th October 13:54
gshughes said:
I do some high intensity interval training on a treadmill (try it, it's great!) which is essentially three minutes at a jogging pace interspersed with sprints as fast as you can go for 30s. The max speed of the treadmill is 20kph, which I can keep up for 30s ok, but I wouldn't want to keep it up for much longer. That equates to 12.4mph! I did an off round marathon with some hills (Kielder) in 3.58 on Sunday, so like to think I'm reasonable fit, but sub 2hrs is just mind blowing!
I did Kielder on Sunday too. 4hrs 2 mins. It was absolutely brutal. Worst I have felt during any event ever. Last 6 miles was basically a run/walk/run/walk whils being in total agony.Some hills? The dam wall was the only bloody flat bit!
I genuinely found it harder than an iron distance triathlon.
ED209 said:
I did Kielder on Sunday too. 4hrs 2 mins. It was absolutely brutal. Worst I have felt during any event ever. Last 6 miles was basically a run/walk/run/walk whils being in total agony.
Some hills? The dam wall was the only bloody flat bit!
I genuinely found it harder than an iron distance triathlon.
Small world, yes it was brutal, nicer weather would have helped I guess, but glad I did it. You weren't the chap in the M3 who parked next to me by any chance were you?Some hills? The dam wall was the only bloody flat bit!
I genuinely found it harder than an iron distance triathlon.
I was watching on Saturday morning and have been following this challenge since it was announced. The fact that astounds me is that when I was in my penultimate year of secondary school, in 1993, the half marathon world record went under an hour for the first time. It's astonishing that 26 years later someone can do that twice in a row back to back The crazy thing is that Kipchoge's form was spot on throughout, and he even turned round after the finish, ran back across the line and high fived the crowd afterwards! Like watching Jim Clark drive or Federer play tennis - EK is at that level where everything is just so perfect and controlled and looks effortless.
The coolest thing about running is how we can compare directly an elite's performance with our own, which is rare in sport. We don't need Lewis Hamilton's car, or a tennis opponent that can serve at 130mph+; we can just go out the front door, run and time ourselves. As others have done here, I've looked at my pace and compared it to EK's and it frazzles my mind to even think about it. Running is the sport I do most, I came 16th in a 10k on Sunday, so I'm ok at it, but currently my 400m interval pace is Kipchoge's 2 hour marathon pace. I could probably just about bust an 800m at that pace if it was a one-time thing and I trained for it. Obviously I'm an old bloke who just runs for fun, but even so, that gulf between amateur and elite is utterly astonishing.
The crazy thing is that Kipchoge's form was spot on throughout, and he even turned round after the finish, ran back across the line and high fived the crowd afterwards! Like watching Jim Clark drive or Federer play tennis - EK is at that level where everything is just so perfect and controlled and looks effortless.The coolest thing about running is how we can compare directly an elite's performance with our own, which is rare in sport. We don't need Lewis Hamilton's car, or a tennis opponent that can serve at 130mph+; we can just go out the front door, run and time ourselves. As others have done here, I've looked at my pace and compared it to EK's and it frazzles my mind to even think about it. Running is the sport I do most, I came 16th in a 10k on Sunday, so I'm ok at it, but currently my 400m interval pace is Kipchoge's 2 hour marathon pace. I could probably just about bust an 800m at that pace if it was a one-time thing and I trained for it. Obviously I'm an old bloke who just runs for fun, but even so, that gulf between amateur and elite is utterly astonishing.
Edited by RobM77 on Tuesday 15th October 15:33
I did 400m intervals at lunchtime today and my quickest one was a 5:14 min/mile avg pace with a good stagger around after I stopped the watch.
This is still not as quick as he went over the marathon distance and I don't honestly think I could get close to his pace even over a shorter distance.
Yes it was 'controlled' conditions but you have to give him credit for what he achieved and not collapsing at the end.
This is still not as quick as he went over the marathon distance and I don't honestly think I could get close to his pace even over a shorter distance.
Yes it was 'controlled' conditions but you have to give him credit for what he achieved and not collapsing at the end.
As a (not very good and distinctly amateur) runner it's his running form and efficiency that boggles as much as the speed.
Speed comes from that form and efficiency and his is basically perfect. He almost looks like he's jogging but the pace he can maintain is phenomenal.
He said he was tired at the end but I wonder now he knows he can do it whether he'll have a crack at doing it on a 'proper' course - i.e Berlin next year.
I saw his training routine. Just the 140 miles a week then
Speed comes from that form and efficiency and his is basically perfect. He almost looks like he's jogging but the pace he can maintain is phenomenal.
He said he was tired at the end but I wonder now he knows he can do it whether he'll have a crack at doing it on a 'proper' course - i.e Berlin next year.
I saw his training routine. Just the 140 miles a week then
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