Goalkeepers playing outfield.
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I'm not a football fan either. I am guessing that one extra player won't make that much of a difference but will leave an open goal that's harder to defend if normal players are only allowed to use their chest, head, feet, legs and Hand of God.
Remember all those amazing saves where a goalie only just about touches the ball with his fingertips to punt it outside the goal post or crossbar? They would be impossible if you couldn't use your arms and hands.
Look at how many of these would be impossible if you couldn't use your hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvT2o7gDrbQ
Remember all those amazing saves where a goalie only just about touches the ball with his fingertips to punt it outside the goal post or crossbar? They would be impossible if you couldn't use your arms and hands.
Look at how many of these would be impossible if you couldn't use your hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvT2o7gDrbQ
Edited by Hoofy on Sunday 15th July 18:14
Hoofy said:
I'm not a football fan either. I am guessing that one extra player won't make that much of a difference but will leave an open goal that's harder to defend if normal players are only allowed to use their chest, head, feet, legs and hand of God.
They were losing. Having 11 men outfield would possibly have allowed them to score. If it failed and they conceded more goals they would still have lost = no worse an outcome.So said:
Hoofy said:
I'm not a football fan either. I am guessing that one extra player won't make that much of a difference but will leave an open goal that's harder to defend if normal players are only allowed to use their chest, head, feet, legs and hand of God.
They were losing. Having 11 men outfield would possibly have allowed them to score. If it failed and they conceded more goals they would still have lost = no worse an outcome.
I guess the embarrassment of walking away with the final score being 8-2?
Elite players can beat defenders, find a gap through a crowded penalty area or ping one into the hard-to-reach extremities of the goal even when the keeper is present, so lofting a ball from distance into an unguarded, completely open net would be utter child's play for them.
The minor advantage having (almost certainly their least-skilled footballer) playing further outfield would be hugely negated by the - quite literally - open goal it would afford the opposition.
If the aim in the dying minutes is to claw back a goals deficiet, then the cause isn't remotely helped by conceding another very easy goal.
That said, there is some truth in what you say - hence why the modern keeper has evolved to be a 'sweeper-keeper', able to play comfortably with their feet, thus providing an extra passing option and allowing their team-mates a slight numerical advantage when in possession. But they still stay close to their goal. The other exception is the keeper using their height in the box for last-minute corners or free-kicks, but even then it is a calculated risk - usually the ball will go out, or the keeper will have time to sprint back to their nets.
The minor advantage having (almost certainly their least-skilled footballer) playing further outfield would be hugely negated by the - quite literally - open goal it would afford the opposition.
If the aim in the dying minutes is to claw back a goals deficiet, then the cause isn't remotely helped by conceding another very easy goal.
That said, there is some truth in what you say - hence why the modern keeper has evolved to be a 'sweeper-keeper', able to play comfortably with their feet, thus providing an extra passing option and allowing their team-mates a slight numerical advantage when in possession. But they still stay close to their goal. The other exception is the keeper using their height in the box for last-minute corners or free-kicks, but even then it is a calculated risk - usually the ball will go out, or the keeper will have time to sprint back to their nets.
cuprabob said:
So said:
I am not a football fan, I must say now.
As I type, Croatia is losing 4-2 in extra time.
In a situation such as this, why would they not play their keeper outfield?
Thete was no extra time. The game was concluded in the normal 90mins plus time for stoppages.As I type, Croatia is losing 4-2 in extra time.
In a situation such as this, why would they not play their keeper outfield?
My point was, they were going to lose and had only 5 minutes not to do so. It didn't matter whether they lost 4-2 or 40-2 because the score had no impact upon anything but the World Cup final, if there was a chance of scoring an equalising 2 goals by playing 11 men outfield that makes sense to me (but then what do I know?).
No, extra time is as additional 30 mins played if it's a draw after the normal 90mins plus stoppage time.
Goalkeepers ofter do come up for corners and set pieces in the final few mins but if they were to try and play like a normal outfield player the opposition would just add more goals from distance into an open goal.
Goalkeepers ofter do come up for corners and set pieces in the final few mins but if they were to try and play like a normal outfield player the opposition would just add more goals from distance into an open goal.
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