Running Shoe Wear - Need Confirmation
Discussion
Morning all,
So for the last 4 or 5 years, after going to my local running shop for them them to analyse my stride, I've been buying Brooks Adrenaline GTS shoes, on my 3rd pair now. I tend to replace every 750km.
I was just about to order another pair, but then noticed the description "These trusted, go-to running shoes for men are the perfect balance of support and soft cushion, and especially great for those who tend to pronate"
So a quick google of pronate suggests "walk or run with most of the weight on the inside edge of the feet"
But looking at my current wear, it looks like I run on the outside of my feet right? (This is the left hand shoe). My work shoes are also worn on the outside. So, do I have the wrong type of running trainers? I've not queried it until now, as I've never experienced any discomfort running, although can get shin splints if I regularly run every second day, but don't do that very often. Twice a week is enough between that and biking.
So for the last 4 or 5 years, after going to my local running shop for them them to analyse my stride, I've been buying Brooks Adrenaline GTS shoes, on my 3rd pair now. I tend to replace every 750km.
I was just about to order another pair, but then noticed the description "These trusted, go-to running shoes for men are the perfect balance of support and soft cushion, and especially great for those who tend to pronate"
So a quick google of pronate suggests "walk or run with most of the weight on the inside edge of the feet"
But looking at my current wear, it looks like I run on the outside of my feet right? (This is the left hand shoe). My work shoes are also worn on the outside. So, do I have the wrong type of running trainers? I've not queried it until now, as I've never experienced any discomfort running, although can get shin splints if I regularly run every second day, but don't do that very often. Twice a week is enough between that and biking.
Are you happy with them?
Theres lots of different thoughts about gait analysis and what shoe is right - i prefer minimalist 0-4mm drop and have fallen arches, which in theory is totally the wrong shoe for me to wear but ive found its helped strengthen a 'weak' knee joint and my arches have raised
Theres lots of different thoughts about gait analysis and what shoe is right - i prefer minimalist 0-4mm drop and have fallen arches, which in theory is totally the wrong shoe for me to wear but ive found its helped strengthen a 'weak' knee joint and my arches have raised
lemmingjames said:
Are you happy with them?
Theres lots of different thoughts about gait analysis and what shoe is right - i prefer minimalist 0-4mm drop and have fallen arches, which in theory is totally the wrong shoe for me to wear but ive found its helped strengthen a 'weak' knee joint and my arches have raised
Yes I am, but it's all I've ever known, so to speak. Theres lots of different thoughts about gait analysis and what shoe is right - i prefer minimalist 0-4mm drop and have fallen arches, which in theory is totally the wrong shoe for me to wear but ive found its helped strengthen a 'weak' knee joint and my arches have raised
More worried I could be causing long term damage by running in the wrong shoes. Although I guess I'd be getting small niggles if that was the case.
what kind of surface do you run on?
Normal wear is outside edge of heal, its where you hit the ground first no matter your pronation, its how your foot rolls after that, that is trying to be corrected and the way your foot moves is related to the strength of your arch, your arch can get stronger so your pronation can change over time.
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The best advice I can give is run on softer ground and wear trail runners.
Normal wear is outside edge of heal, its where you hit the ground first no matter your pronation, its how your foot rolls after that, that is trying to be corrected and the way your foot moves is related to the strength of your arch, your arch can get stronger so your pronation can change over time.
https://runtobefit.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/pro...
The best advice I can give is run on softer ground and wear trail runners.
Foliage said:
what kind of surface do you run on?
Normal wear is outside edge of heal, its where you hit the ground first no matter your pronation, its how your foot rolls after that, that is trying to be corrected and the way your foot moves is related to the strength of your arch, your arch can get stronger so your pronation can change over time.
https://runtobefit.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/pro...
The best advice I can give is run on softer ground and wear trail runners.
Thanks for the link, I'll check the front of my shoes for wear. Normal wear is outside edge of heal, its where you hit the ground first no matter your pronation, its how your foot rolls after that, that is trying to be corrected and the way your foot moves is related to the strength of your arch, your arch can get stronger so your pronation can change over time.
https://runtobefit.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/pro...
The best advice I can give is run on softer ground and wear trail runners.
I generally run on footpaths/roads and occasionally on fire roads.
Can't really help with the original question - but I'd recommend buying 2 pairs, throw "pair two" into a cupboard until "pair one" is 200 miles old, and then start alternating use between the two. (Even more important if you run consecutive days as it gives the shoe time to dry properly / recover!)
Once you can feel that pair one is significantly worse in terms of comfort / support, you need to replace that pair.
750km is a long time. Not necessarily too long, but that's a lot of distance for a running shoe. The one in your picture is obviously damaged and may not be giving you as much support as you want.
Once you can feel that pair one is significantly worse in terms of comfort / support, you need to replace that pair.
750km is a long time. Not necessarily too long, but that's a lot of distance for a running shoe. The one in your picture is obviously damaged and may not be giving you as much support as you want.
tigger1 said:
Can't really help with the original question - but I'd recommend buying 2 pairs, throw "pair two" into a cupboard until "pair one" is 200 miles old, and then start alternating use between the two. (Even more important if you run consecutive days as it gives the shoe time to dry properly / recover!)
Once you can feel that pair one is significantly worse in terms of comfort / support, you need to replace that pair.
750km is a long time. Not necessarily too long, but that's a lot of distance for a running shoe. The one in your picture is obviously damaged and may not be giving you as much support as you want.
As it happens, just back from a lunchtime run in my new Brook Adrenaline gts 16's that I picked up at the weekend after some advice from my local running shop. Turns out my old shoes were fine for my running style. Cushioning is fantastic, obvious my old shoes were long past it. Will definitely replace more regularly! Once you can feel that pair one is significantly worse in terms of comfort / support, you need to replace that pair.
750km is a long time. Not necessarily too long, but that's a lot of distance for a running shoe. The one in your picture is obviously damaged and may not be giving you as much support as you want.
tigger1 said:
Can't really help with the original question - but I'd recommend buying 2 pairs, throw "pair two" into a cupboard until "pair one" is 200 miles old, and then start alternating use between the two. (Even more important if you run consecutive days as it gives the shoe time to dry properly / recover!)
Once you can feel that pair one is significantly worse in terms of comfort / support, you need to replace that pair.
750km is a long time. Not necessarily too long, but that's a lot of distance for a running shoe. The one in your picture is obviously damaged and may not be giving you as much support as you want.
750km is not a long time. It's about the average expectancy. I've had some that go are fine upto 750 MILES, and others that were only good up to 400 miles. Depends entirely on the shoe construction, your weight, and your running style. Once you can feel that pair one is significantly worse in terms of comfort / support, you need to replace that pair.
750km is a long time. Not necessarily too long, but that's a lot of distance for a running shoe. The one in your picture is obviously damaged and may not be giving you as much support as you want.
As said though alternating several pairs can prolong them.
InertialTooth45 said:
tigger1 said:
Can't really help with the original question - but I'd recommend buying 2 pairs, throw "pair two" into a cupboard until "pair one" is 200 miles old, and then start alternating use between the two. (Even more important if you run consecutive days as it gives the shoe time to dry properly / recover!)
Once you can feel that pair one is significantly worse in terms of comfort / support, you need to replace that pair.
750km is a long time. Not necessarily too long, but that's a lot of distance for a running shoe. The one in your picture is obviously damaged and may not be giving you as much support as you want.
750km is not a long time. It's about the average expectancy. I've had some that go are fine upto 750 MILES, and others that were only good up to 400 miles. Depends entirely on the shoe construction, your weight, and your running style. Once you can feel that pair one is significantly worse in terms of comfort / support, you need to replace that pair.
750km is a long time. Not necessarily too long, but that's a lot of distance for a running shoe. The one in your picture is obviously damaged and may not be giving you as much support as you want.
As said though alternating several pairs can prolong them.
And the surfaces you run on. And how lightweight the shoe is. And lots of other things.
I'd still say that at 750km, you're going to be looking at a shoe which is giving a lot less support and cushioning than a newer shoe - but each to their own. Also, new shoes are faster
Kind of touched upon above, but need to consider the first two phases:
Phase 1 is initial contact - you are most likely suprinating to get that much wear on the outside heel.
Phase 2 is where the pronation comes in - this rolling inwards will straighten out ready for phase 3 (toe off).
If you think it may be causing you injury / problems, the first thing I'd think about is whether you are over-striding (foot landing too far forward of your centre of gravity) which causes a hard initial contact. If your running watch (should you own one) measures cadence, it wouldn't surprise me if you are on the low side (low 160s). I'm also envisaging even wear on your forefoot.
If you are running injury free, no need to worry / change shoe.
Phase 1 is initial contact - you are most likely suprinating to get that much wear on the outside heel.
Phase 2 is where the pronation comes in - this rolling inwards will straighten out ready for phase 3 (toe off).
If you think it may be causing you injury / problems, the first thing I'd think about is whether you are over-striding (foot landing too far forward of your centre of gravity) which causes a hard initial contact. If your running watch (should you own one) measures cadence, it wouldn't surprise me if you are on the low side (low 160s). I'm also envisaging even wear on your forefoot.
If you are running injury free, no need to worry / change shoe.
onedsla said:
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If your running watch (should you own one) measures cadence, it wouldn't surprise me if you are on the low side (low 160s). I'm also envisaging even wear on your forefoot.
If you're using an iphone - the health app will show you a 5 minute view of steps (in "view all data" or something like that). Divide that number by 5 to get your strides per minute. Theory says you should be aiming for 180+.If your running watch (should you own one) measures cadence, it wouldn't surprise me if you are on the low side (low 160s). I'm also envisaging even wear on your forefoot.
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