This bloke has no place in the sport

This bloke has no place in the sport

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Vocal Minority

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8,582 posts

157 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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joshleb

1,548 posts

149 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Should be banned for life, what an absolute idiot and waste of his fathers time all those years ago.

neenaw

1,212 posts

194 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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joshleb said:
Should be banned for life, what an absolute idiot and waste of his fathers time all those years ago.
Couldn't agree more. Should be banned for life from any sport!

XCP

17,108 posts

233 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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I would suggest a prosecution for assault and a life ban would result in this country.

wazztie16

1,513 posts

136 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Scum. Deserves to have the same done to him, by a player twice his size and weight.

On a slight tangent, I went to school with this lovely chap around 7 years ago. He wasn't the nicest back then to be honest, so I wasn't surprised when I saw this in my local news.


http://m.derbytelegraph.co.uk/derby-rugby-player-l...

Derek Smith

46,298 posts

253 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Late last season the team I support played a home match where the opposing #5 back-heeled on of our players, knocking him out. He stamped twice on my lad's head in a ruck, knocking him out and giving him severe concussion. He's still having mood swings. And kneed another player in the face, fracturing his eye socket. All clear on video. He also kicked our photographer, but that wasn't on video.

12 weeks ban. None of the three have played since, my lad being unable to due to the serious head injury.

I was in a process unit for two years and the evidence of a criminal acts was overwhelming. The injured players, being true they felt to the spirit of rugby, refused to complain to the police.

greygoose

8,566 posts

200 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Derek Smith said:
Late last season the team I support played a home match where the opposing #5 back-heeled on of our players, knocking him out. He stamped twice on my lad's head in a ruck, knocking him out and giving him severe concussion. He's still having mood swings. And kneed another player in the face, fracturing his eye socket. All clear on video. He also kicked our photographer, but that wasn't on video.

12 weeks ban. None of the three have played since, my lad being unable to due to the serious head injury.

I was in a process unit for two years and the evidence of a criminal acts was overwhelming. The injured players, being true they felt to the spirit of rugby, refused to complain to the police.
How did he stay on the pitch after all those offences? Seems a soft penalty to me.

hidetheelephants

27,220 posts

198 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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Derek Smith said:
Late last season the team I support played a home match where the opposing #5 back-heeled on of our players, knocking him out. He stamped twice on my lad's head in a ruck, knocking him out and giving him severe concussion. He's still having mood swings. And kneed another player in the face, fracturing his eye socket. All clear on video. He also kicked our photographer, but that wasn't on video.

12 weeks ban. None of the three have played since, my lad being unable to due to the serious head injury.

I was in a process unit for two years and the evidence of a criminal acts was overwhelming. The injured players, being true they felt to the spirit of rugby, refused to complain to the police.
The spirit of rugby is encouraging or tacitly condoning psychotic behaviour and GBH? I missed that PE lesson. Isn't the italic part just plain old-fashioned assault?

XCP

17,108 posts

233 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
The spirit of rugby is encouraging or tacitly condoning psychotic behaviour and GBH? I missed that PE lesson. Isn't the italic part just plain old-fashioned assault?
Sounds like a right charmer. On the other hand, a chap who punched a player at a club I used to play for, breaking his jaw, got 6 months inside.

Derek Smith

46,298 posts

253 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
The spirit of rugby is encouraging or tacitly condoning psychotic behaviour and GBH? I missed that PE lesson. Isn't the italic part just plain old-fashioned assault?
What happens on the pitch . . .

However, the feeling was that the RFU would deal with the matter in a professional way.


Vocal Minority

Original Poster:

8,582 posts

157 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
Derek Smith said:
Late last season the team I support played a home match where the opposing #5 back-heeled on of our players, knocking him out. He stamped twice on my lad's head in a ruck, knocking him out and giving him severe concussion. He's still having mood swings. And kneed another player in the face, fracturing his eye socket. All clear on video. He also kicked our photographer, but that wasn't on video.

12 weeks ban. None of the three have played since, my lad being unable to due to the serious head injury.

I was in a process unit for two years and the evidence of a criminal acts was overwhelming. The injured players, being true they felt to the spirit of rugby, refused to complain to the police.
The spirit of rugby is encouraging or tacitly condoning psychotic behaviour and GBH? I missed that PE lesson. Isn't the italic part just plain old-fashioned assault?
I find this aspect difficult - because things like this in rugby are generally self policing...but you just know that player is using rugby as a cover for the sort of bloke he is.

With regards to the original - the bit I find really troubling is that 5 gets you 10 if the referee was a man he would not have done that...

hornetrider

63,161 posts

210 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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fk me. There's no words for that. What a yellow spineless .

hidetheelephants

27,220 posts

198 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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Derek Smith said:
hidetheelephants said:
The spirit of rugby is encouraging or tacitly condoning psychotic behaviour and GBH? I missed that PE lesson. Isn't the italic part just plain old-fashioned assault?
What happens on the pitch . . .

However, the feeling was that the RFU would deal with the matter in a professional way.
As you describe it, it explicitly wasn't on the pitch; a photographer clearly isn't playing rugby so it's just assault, thuggery plain and simple.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

128 months

Friday 16th December 2016
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Sentenced to 18 months so will probably serve 1/3 of that. What a joke. You can get a longer sentence for trolling and saying bad words on the internet.

wazztie16 said:
Scum. Deserves to have the same done to him, by a player twice his size and weight.

On a slight tangent, I went to school with this lovely chap around 7 years ago. He wasn't the nicest back then to be honest, so I wasn't surprised when I saw this in my local news.


http://m.derbytelegraph.co.uk/derby-rugby-player-l...

Wobbegong

15,078 posts

174 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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wazztie16 said:
Scum. Deserves to have the same done to him, by a player twice his size and weight.

On a slight tangent, I went to school with this lovely chap around 7 years ago. He wasn't the nicest back then to be honest, so I wasn't surprised when I saw this in my local news.


http://m.derbytelegraph.co.uk/derby-rugby-player-l...
I played a school match when I was 17 and an opposing player started purposefully stamping on my head irked Fortunately he was a scraggy chav so didn't do much damage....I think my response successfully stopped him polluting the gene pool hehe

As for the chap in the OP, what a tt. Just hope the referee recovers without any lasting issues and hasn't lost her love for the game.

tigger1

8,402 posts

226 months

Thursday 22nd December 2016
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joshleb said:
Should be banned for life, what an absolute idiot and waste of his fathers time all those years ago.
As with most sports, it'd be nice to think that clubs wouldn't touch a player like this, but sadly somebody will have him back at some point.

Ought to be in jail.

simoid

19,772 posts

163 months

Thursday 22nd December 2016
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Anyone got any idea:

Why the fk he tackled the ref?
Why the fk he only got a yellow card at the time? (Perhaps the ref was concussed and confused...!? hehe )

Kermit power

29,376 posts

218 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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simoid said:
Anyone got any idea:

Why the fk he tackled the ref?
Why the fk he only got a yellow card at the time? (Perhaps the ref was concussed and confused...!? hehe )
That's exactly what I was wondering.

I watched the video and was left totally bemused by it. Was he pissed off at a decision she'd taken? Did he mistake her for an opponent (not that that would've been any less despicable)?

It would be really good to get some sort of back story as to what was going on...

Vocal Minority

Original Poster:

8,582 posts

157 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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I would put a fiver on it being because she was a woman and he didn't think she should be in the position of refereeing a game of men's rugby - thought it'd be funny/teach her some sort of lesson.

School yard bullying tactics from someone not bright enough to realise the consequences.

I don't think it would have happened to a male referee, lets put it that way