I don't understand football mentality.
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I have to confess, I an not a traditional fan of football.
I've watched a few games of the World Cup and it strikes me, that the game is riddled with players who are seeking to cheat.
The slightest physical contact is met with a reaction that is so over played, the referee or the viewer might think a player had been shot, by a rhino stopper.
Also, when a player commits a foul and gets pinged, he very often protests his innocence. That's an attempt at cheating, followed by an attempt at cheating.
Another one........a player kicks a ball out (and knows he was the last player to play the ball), but then thrusts his arm up to claim advantage.
Why?
I've watched a few games of the World Cup and it strikes me, that the game is riddled with players who are seeking to cheat.
The slightest physical contact is met with a reaction that is so over played, the referee or the viewer might think a player had been shot, by a rhino stopper.
Also, when a player commits a foul and gets pinged, he very often protests his innocence. That's an attempt at cheating, followed by an attempt at cheating.
Another one........a player kicks a ball out (and knows he was the last player to play the ball), but then thrusts his arm up to claim advantage.
Why?
It interrupts the flow of the game and there is also a chance to get an opposing player cautioned which may make them less likely to tackle or even get sent off giving your team numerical supremacy. It's really come from South American teams where it's seen as an acceptable way of gaining an advantage over the opposition. It is strange because twenty years ago the idea was to show the opposition how 'hard' you were and show that you weren't hurt.
Rugby union is 'my' sport. I watch it almost every weekend in the season and I'm on the committee of my club.
The feigned injuries in football really spoil the matches for me.
The way that the referee is treated in RU is not without fault You try defending an innocent player against a poor red card. I've seen video evidence refused because, many felt, it showed the ref to be wrong. The RFU's default mode is that the referee is always right regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The only time he is wrong is when he agrees he's wrong.
But the system is better than that of soccer. Just captains talk to the ref. Any mobbing would get a team severely punished. If a ref feels a player is play-acting then the player can be carded. It goes on, mind, but slightly differently to soccer. If a team need time to reorganise then a player, perhaps the hooker, might require a bit of work to his knee before he can take a throw-in. A prop might have to have his shoulder worked on before a scrum. But it is never against an opposing player.
The feigned injuries in football really spoil the matches for me.
The way that the referee is treated in RU is not without fault You try defending an innocent player against a poor red card. I've seen video evidence refused because, many felt, it showed the ref to be wrong. The RFU's default mode is that the referee is always right regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. The only time he is wrong is when he agrees he's wrong.
But the system is better than that of soccer. Just captains talk to the ref. Any mobbing would get a team severely punished. If a ref feels a player is play-acting then the player can be carded. It goes on, mind, but slightly differently to soccer. If a team need time to reorganise then a player, perhaps the hooker, might require a bit of work to his knee before he can take a throw-in. A prop might have to have his shoulder worked on before a scrum. But it is never against an opposing player.
Nobby Diesel said:
I have to confess, I an not a traditional fan of football.
I've watched a few games of the World Cup and it strikes me, that the game is riddled with players who are seeking to cheat.
The slightest physical contact is met with a reaction that is so over played, the referee or the viewer might think a player had been shot, by a rhino stopper.
Also, when a player commits a foul and gets pinged, he very often protests his innocence. That's an attempt at cheating, followed by an attempt at cheating.
Another one........a player kicks a ball out (and knows he was the last player to play the ball), but then thrusts his arm up to claim advantage.
Why?
that's why i never watch football I've watched a few games of the World Cup and it strikes me, that the game is riddled with players who are seeking to cheat.
The slightest physical contact is met with a reaction that is so over played, the referee or the viewer might think a player had been shot, by a rhino stopper.
Also, when a player commits a foul and gets pinged, he very often protests his innocence. That's an attempt at cheating, followed by an attempt at cheating.
Another one........a player kicks a ball out (and knows he was the last player to play the ball), but then thrusts his arm up to claim advantage.
Why?
There's cheating in all sports. Yes, it seems a bit more petulant and childish in football than in many other sports, but cheating is not unique to soccer.
I think the governing bodies should empower and encourage the referees to yellow-card anyone who crowds round them arguing a decision. The players would soon learn to respect the decision.
I think the governing bodies should empower and encourage the referees to yellow-card anyone who crowds round them arguing a decision. The players would soon learn to respect the decision.
Football needs a video ref and sin bin.
Pretend to be injured 10 min in sin bin, 5 of the team in the sin bin you forfeit the game.
It's interesting, if you watch the women's England team, they play very well as a team, is it 7 consecutive games without a goal getting scored against them?
Now the England men's team, some of whom probably get paid more a year on their own than the women's team as a whole, can't play for s
t together.
Pretend to be injured 10 min in sin bin, 5 of the team in the sin bin you forfeit the game.
It's interesting, if you watch the women's England team, they play very well as a team, is it 7 consecutive games without a goal getting scored against them?
Now the England men's team, some of whom probably get paid more a year on their own than the women's team as a whole, can't play for s
t together.BlueMR2 said:
Football needs a video ref and sin bin.
Pretend to be injured 10 min in sin bin, 5 of the team in the sin bin you forfeit the game.
It's interesting, if you watch the women's England team, they play very well as a team, is it 7 consecutive games without a goal getting scored against them?
Now the England men's team, some of whom probably get paid more a year on their own than the women's team as a whole, can't play for st together.
Yes, but they're playing against other women and the other teams are horrendously bad.Pretend to be injured 10 min in sin bin, 5 of the team in the sin bin you forfeit the game.
It's interesting, if you watch the women's England team, they play very well as a team, is it 7 consecutive games without a goal getting scored against them?
Now the England men's team, some of whom probably get paid more a year on their own than the women's team as a whole, can't play for s
t together.ikarl said:
BlueMR2 said:
Football needs a video ref and sin bin.
Pretend to be injured 10 min in sin bin, 5 of the team in the sin bin you forfeit the game.
It's interesting, if you watch the women's England team, they play very well as a team, is it 7 consecutive games without a goal getting scored against them?
Now the England men's team, some of whom probably get paid more a year on their own than the women's team as a whole, can't play for st together.
Yes, but they're playing against other women and the other teams are horrendously bad.Pretend to be injured 10 min in sin bin, 5 of the team in the sin bin you forfeit the game.
It's interesting, if you watch the women's England team, they play very well as a team, is it 7 consecutive games without a goal getting scored against them?
Now the England men's team, some of whom probably get paid more a year on their own than the women's team as a whole, can't play for s
t together.I'd like to know what constitutes a foul in football. Sometimes players get scythed down with a right clatter and it is not a foul. Other times the slightest touch is enough. Or no touch at all!.
As a non football observer I'd just like to know what the definition is as it seems to be purely chance.
Another question. Does anyone know what the little quarter circles in the corners are for? I thought the ball had to be kicked from within for a corner, however this does not seem to be the case judging by some corners I have seen in the world cup.
As a non football observer I'd just like to know what the definition is as it seems to be purely chance.
Another question. Does anyone know what the little quarter circles in the corners are for? I thought the ball had to be kicked from within for a corner, however this does not seem to be the case judging by some corners I have seen in the world cup.
fiatpower said:
Yep definitely no injuries faked in rugby ever...
I would like the attitudes towards the referee being brought to footie and enforced with bans etc. The same goes with diving etc.
This is true - but the bloke behind it got a ban for THREE YEARS!I would like the attitudes towards the referee being brought to footie and enforced with bans etc. The same goes with diving etc.
There's loads of cheating in rugby, but very little pretending to get hurt. it's getting a bit worse and most players won't accept it and take the piss out of anyone who does it.
fiatpower said:
I would like the attitudes towards the referee being brought to footie and enforced with bans etc. The same goes with diving etc.
Is it a big problem in diving too?I too rarely watch football, but i'm always reminded when I do that almost any 'tackle' or somebody falling over results in a free kick to one or other of the teams -almost at random.
Football is like Coronation St for men.
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