Best sportsman...
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has to be one of the dual sports sportsmen...
ill propose Jeff Wilson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wilson_%28sports...
44 tries in 60 tests as an all black (11th in test tries)
6 ODIs for NZ cricket
ill propose Jeff Wilson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wilson_%28sports...
44 tries in 60 tests as an all black (11th in test tries)
6 ODIs for NZ cricket
clarkmagpie said:
Who do you reckon?
I open up the floor to all sorts
For the record, I'm just watching the Tyson fights from the early years...
My answer though?
Shearer, I'm a daft Geordie so I open the floor to more less biased opinions!
YouTube clips of sporting greatness allowed (I hope).
Of course it's Shearer, why on earth are you asking anyone else the question? They're the ones who'll be biased!I open up the floor to all sorts
For the record, I'm just watching the Tyson fights from the early years...
My answer though?
Shearer, I'm a daft Geordie so I open the floor to more less biased opinions!
YouTube clips of sporting greatness allowed (I hope).
Ahhh Shearer.... when you think about it, he was so much better than Pele, Maradona and Messi and when you go across other sports, Bradman whose test average was miles above anyone else, Ali who was more than just a sportsman, Federer with his incredible record. When you look at Shearer though it's tough to disagree
Did I forget Redgrave Thompson, Wiggins, Mercx, Tendulkar, Ennis, Lewis, Bolt.... naaahhhh still think it's Shearer
Did I forget Redgrave Thompson, Wiggins, Mercx, Tendulkar, Ennis, Lewis, Bolt.... naaahhhh still think it's Shearer
Don1 said:
Bo Jackson.
A man who played professionally in the NFL as a hobby, when he wasn't playing baseball.
I didn't think he would be mentioned nn here. One of my top sportsmen of all time.A man who played professionally in the NFL as a hobby, when he wasn't playing baseball.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjO_QfFYV78
Steve Largent's comment summed him up, such a shame his career was cut short.
Barry Saunders, an unbelievable athlete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvOZsAoXy7o
And finally Walter Payton, my favourite athlete of all time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb2Gp1UCp2E
Edited by theboyfold on Tuesday 7th May 08:24
z4chris99 said:
has to be one of the dual sports sportsmen...
ill propose Jeff Wilson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wilson_%28sports...
44 tries in 60 tests as an all black (11th in test tries)
6 ODIs for NZ cricket
I'll raise you Sonny Bill Williams.ill propose Jeff Wilson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Wilson_%28sports...
44 tries in 60 tests as an all black (11th in test tries)
6 ODIs for NZ cricket
Rugby Union World Cup winner.
Rugby League Kiwi international currently plying his trade in the Cauldron of the NRL.
NZ Heavyweight boxing champ.
z4chris99 said:
bah.,
league and union are much a similar beast.
NZ boxing is a joke, have you seen the fatties he has fought!
Ill give you the boxing as Botha would have taken him out also if it were 12 rounds, albeit with the use of steroids. league and union are much a similar beast.
NZ boxing is a joke, have you seen the fatties he has fought!
Anyone who can excel at the top of league and union is a freak of an elite athlete, two totally different sports.
NickNJ said:
Ill give you the boxing as Botha would have taken him out also if it were 12 rounds, albeit with the use of steroids.
Anyone who can excel at the top of league and union is a freak of an elite athlete, two totally different sports.
No they are not. And that's coming from an ex-semi pro rugby player. They are an elite athlete, but not 'freakish' - see Jason Robinson, Jonah Lomu and a whole host of Australasian players. Anyone who can excel at the top of league and union is a freak of an elite athlete, two totally different sports.
Bo Jackson - a man who played two totally different sports at the highest level is a 'freak of an elite athlete'. He's also an exceptional hunter (not really a sport, I grant you).
I would also offer up John Surtees - the only man in history to win both the F1 and Bike championships.
If statistics mean anything in assessing athletes, then Bradman is beyond any doubt the outstanding sportsman of all time.
His test batting average of 99.94 is so far above anyone else before or since that it marks him out as unique in sporting history. (The next best average is Graeme Pollock, at 60.97)
There are, of course, other criteria than statistics to consider. Martina Navratilova, for example, totally dominated her sport by being the first female tennis player to train like a professional athlete. She changed perceptions of sports women, and remains a role model for lesbians.
His test batting average of 99.94 is so far above anyone else before or since that it marks him out as unique in sporting history. (The next best average is Graeme Pollock, at 60.97)
There are, of course, other criteria than statistics to consider. Martina Navratilova, for example, totally dominated her sport by being the first female tennis player to train like a professional athlete. She changed perceptions of sports women, and remains a role model for lesbians.
Wayne Gretzky (Ice Hockey).
A guy who fundamentally changed the sport - went professional at age 17 and dominated for 15 years.
"At the time of his retirement in 1999, he held 40 regular-season records, 15 playoff records, and six All-Star records".
At his peak, he was so dominant that they even changed the rules of the game to limit his impact:
"the NHL made a rule-change that made teams play 5-on-5 during offsetting/coincidental penalties -- known informally as "The Gretzky Rule."
Truly deserving of his nickname: "The Great One".
A guy who fundamentally changed the sport - went professional at age 17 and dominated for 15 years.
"At the time of his retirement in 1999, he held 40 regular-season records, 15 playoff records, and six All-Star records".
At his peak, he was so dominant that they even changed the rules of the game to limit his impact:
"the NHL made a rule-change that made teams play 5-on-5 during offsetting/coincidental penalties -- known informally as "The Gretzky Rule."
Truly deserving of his nickname: "The Great One".
youngsyr said:
Wayne Gretzky (Ice Hockey).
A guy who fundamentally changed the sport - went professional at age 17 and dominated for 15 years.
"At the time of his retirement in 1999, he held 40 regular-season records, 15 playoff records, and six All-Star records".
At his peak, he was so dominant that they even changed the rules of the game to limit his impact:
"the NHL made a rule-change that made teams play 5-on-5 during offsetting/coincidental penalties -- known informally as "The Gretzky Rule."
Truly deserving of his nickname: "The Great One".
I suggested him on one of the other threads. If you look at the all time records he is miles ahead of the second placed person...similar to Bradman...but as you pointed out above, not many people get rules changed to make them less effective!A guy who fundamentally changed the sport - went professional at age 17 and dominated for 15 years.
"At the time of his retirement in 1999, he held 40 regular-season records, 15 playoff records, and six All-Star records".
At his peak, he was so dominant that they even changed the rules of the game to limit his impact:
"the NHL made a rule-change that made teams play 5-on-5 during offsetting/coincidental penalties -- known informally as "The Gretzky Rule."
Truly deserving of his nickname: "The Great One".
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