Rory Tiger and Nike- wassup?????
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Still want those Nike clubs??
Rory, now with Nike, has played woeful golf since changing equipment. 7 over par after 8 holes today, walks off the course half way through his round, doesn't come back today, blames toothache. Hasn't made it to the second round in any tournament this year. Word from friends in Northern Ireland is that he hates his new clubs.
Tiger won once this year but went out in first round last week, missed a cut earlier in the year, is playing awful golf and spent more time in the sand today than a Paris/Dakar entrant - now he's staring down missing the cut at the Honda Classic.
Nike are keeping mum but their golf equipment sales are said to be down over 70% in the last two months.
Trouble at 'mill......
Rory, now with Nike, has played woeful golf since changing equipment. 7 over par after 8 holes today, walks off the course half way through his round, doesn't come back today, blames toothache. Hasn't made it to the second round in any tournament this year. Word from friends in Northern Ireland is that he hates his new clubs.
Tiger won once this year but went out in first round last week, missed a cut earlier in the year, is playing awful golf and spent more time in the sand today than a Paris/Dakar entrant - now he's staring down missing the cut at the Honda Classic.
Nike are keeping mum but their golf equipment sales are said to be down over 70% in the last two months.
Trouble at 'mill......
I know how he feels. I used to use a set of Callaway X14's that my dad gave me, fitted like a glove straight away and improved my golf immensely, then after 18 months or so I got bored and treated myself to some fat headed Nike Sumo irons, guaranteed to make me hit the ball straighter and further...
Played like s
t for 6 months! Then suddenly it clicked, and I was transformed into someone taking 6-8 shots less every round consistently whereas I'd stagnated with the callaways.
I imagine Rory will take a similar path, suddenly everything will just work.
I never had to fake a tooth ache of course, but each to their own and all that!
Played like s
t for 6 months! Then suddenly it clicked, and I was transformed into someone taking 6-8 shots less every round consistently whereas I'd stagnated with the callaways.I imagine Rory will take a similar path, suddenly everything will just work.
I never had to fake a tooth ache of course, but each to their own and all that!
That's what you get for chasing money, as if he needs any more. I saw some interviews at the time and he was saying "it's not about the money".....then why change? He has been with Titleist since a boy, was developing his game and winning majors so why change? One answer, MONEY.
I suspect it's more to do with the ball than the clubs too.
I've got no sympathy for him what so ever...
I suspect it's more to do with the ball than the clubs too.
I've got no sympathy for him what so ever...
GTO-3R said:
That's what you get for chasing money, as if he needs any more. I saw some interviews at the time and he was saying "it's not about the money".....then why change? He has been with Titleist since a boy, was developing his game and winning majors so why change? One answer, MONEY.
I suspect it's more to do with the ball than the clubs too.
I've got no sympathy for him what so ever...
I think it was Lee Westwood that said he's changed balls 2 or 3 times this year. I think it's more than the equipment, something we're not hearing about.I suspect it's more to do with the ball than the clubs too.
I've got no sympathy for him what so ever...
The millimetric positioning these guys chase might require a specific ball but I play everyday and seem to achieve the same distance/straightness/accuracy (or lack of) with anything I hit.
I've got boxes and boxes of new balls in my garage, various Titleist, Nike, Dimplit (The Longest Ball In Golf
) and a big box with hundreds of used ones, none of them have ever made any real difference to my game.
Which is why I'm dossing around in my dressing gown writing this rubbish while Rory and Tiger are travelling the globe playing the world's best courses and being paid millions by Nike for doing it.
Or, in Rory's case, not doing it......
I've got boxes and boxes of new balls in my garage, various Titleist, Nike, Dimplit (The Longest Ball In Golf
) and a big box with hundreds of used ones, none of them have ever made any real difference to my game. Which is why I'm dossing around in my dressing gown writing this rubbish while Rory and Tiger are travelling the globe playing the world's best courses and being paid millions by Nike for doing it.
Or, in Rory's case, not doing it......
I would imagine that his new irons will be almost identical specs to his old ones.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that his irons are in fact exactly the same but with a Nike tick rather than the Titleist logo stamped on the back.
I think a lot more is been made of the equipment change than there needs to be. There seems to be some other problem, though I have no idea what it is. Confidence?
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that his irons are in fact exactly the same but with a Nike tick rather than the Titleist logo stamped on the back.
I think a lot more is been made of the equipment change than there needs to be. There seems to be some other problem, though I have no idea what it is. Confidence?
so do we know why he wanted to change clubs?Well he's admitted he was wrong to walk off like that: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/21667177
Grayham said:
I would imagine that his new irons will be almost identical specs to his old ones.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that his irons are in fact exactly the same but with a Nike tick rather than the Titleist logo stamped on the back.
I think a lot more is been made of the equipment change than there needs to be. There seems to be some other problem, though I have no idea what it is. Confidence?
I think his clubs have made the difference.It's not beyond the realms of possibility that his irons are in fact exactly the same but with a Nike tick rather than the Titleist logo stamped on the back.
I think a lot more is been made of the equipment change than there needs to be. There seems to be some other problem, though I have no idea what it is. Confidence?
He'd had his old Titleist set since he was 14 - not the best advert for encouraging us hackers to constantly upgrade - through that 9 year period he would have made his greatest gains and - I guess - they'd become like a friendly old pair of shoes - comfy worn grips, nicely aged shaft flex and an acclimatised feel to the club head.
Lots of manufacturers make 200bhp hot hatches with 17" wheels, similar suspension, similar steering ratio's, same performance figures, same weight, tyre sizes and specs but they all drive very differently.
He couldn't get on with his new Nike putter and - controversially - reverted to his old one but the confidence was already gone.
I wonder how Titleist's offer compared to Nike's at contract signing time?
cheddar said:
Grayham said:
I would imagine that his new irons will be almost identical specs to his old ones.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that his irons are in fact exactly the same but with a Nike tick rather than the Titleist logo stamped on the back.
I think a lot more is been made of the equipment change than there needs to be. There seems to be some other problem, though I have no idea what it is. Confidence?
I think his clubs have made the difference.It's not beyond the realms of possibility that his irons are in fact exactly the same but with a Nike tick rather than the Titleist logo stamped on the back.
I think a lot more is been made of the equipment change than there needs to be. There seems to be some other problem, though I have no idea what it is. Confidence?
He'd had his old Titleist set since he was 14 - not the best advert for encouraging us hackers to constantly upgrade - through that 9 year period he would have made his greatest gains and - I guess - they'd become like a friendly old pair of shoes - comfy worn grips, nicely aged shaft flex and an acclimatised feel to the club head.
Lots of manufacturers make 200bhp hot hatches with 17" wheels, similar suspension, similar steering ratio's, same performance figures, same weight, tyre sizes and specs but they all drive very differently.
He couldn't get on with his new Nike putter and - controversially - reverted to his old one but the confidence was already gone.
I wonder how Titleist's offer compared to Nike's at contract signing time?
I also doubt Rory had exactly the same set of clubs from the age of 14 to the time he signed for Nike. That would be roughly 9 years. I would be very surprised if the Titleist clubs in the picture above are 9 years old. The grips certainly won't be.
Grayham said:
Titleist pay very little if anything, which is why all the top players leave them for other brands.
I also doubt Rory had exactly the same set of clubs from the age of 14 to the time he signed for Nike. That would be roughly 9 years. I would be very surprised if the Titleist clubs in the picture above are 9 years old. The grips certainly won't be.
correct, grips and shafts would be replaced very regularly, numerous sets of clubheads all set up exactly the same. its not 1 set of clubs, more like one setup of clubs, identical every timeI also doubt Rory had exactly the same set of clubs from the age of 14 to the time he signed for Nike. That would be roughly 9 years. I would be very surprised if the Titleist clubs in the picture above are 9 years old. The grips certainly won't be.
cheddar said:
The millimetric positioning these guys chase might require a specific ball but I play everyday and seem to achieve the same distance/straightness/accuracy (or lack of) with anything I hit.
I've got boxes and boxes of new balls in my garage, various Titleist, Nike, Dimplit (The Longest Ball In Golf) and a big box with hundreds of used ones, none of them have ever made any real difference to my game.
Which is why I'm dossing around in my dressing gown writing this rubbish while Rory and Tiger are travelling the globe playing the world's best courses and being paid millions by Nike for doing it.
Or, in Rory's case, not doing it......
I think your wrong with this statement. I've got boxes and boxes of new balls in my garage, various Titleist, Nike, Dimplit (The Longest Ball In Golf
) and a big box with hundreds of used ones, none of them have ever made any real difference to my game. Which is why I'm dossing around in my dressing gown writing this rubbish while Rory and Tiger are travelling the globe playing the world's best courses and being paid millions by Nike for doing it.
Or, in Rory's case, not doing it......
Ive not played for a long time ( fingers crossed will start again soon ) however when i did i was a pretty good player.
Im not sure what the balls are like now but imagine they will still have the smae principles.
Some for distance.
Some a average ball bit of distance and control .
some very soft for more control. ( or thats how it used to be )
They all feel and react different off the clubface, some give more spin etc. Even balls in the same class feel differnt not a huge difference between them though.
theshrew said:
cheddar said:
The millimetric positioning these guys chase might require a specific ball but I play everyday and seem to achieve the same distance/straightness/accuracy (or lack of) with anything I hit.
I've got boxes and boxes of new balls in my garage, various Titleist, Nike, Dimplit (The Longest Ball In Golf) and a big box with hundreds of used ones, none of them have ever made any real difference to my game.
Which is why I'm dossing around in my dressing gown writing this rubbish while Rory and Tiger are travelling the globe playing the world's best courses and being paid millions by Nike for doing it.
Or, in Rory's case, not doing it......
I think your wrong with this statement.I've got boxes and boxes of new balls in my garage, various Titleist, Nike, Dimplit (The Longest Ball In Golf
) and a big box with hundreds of used ones, none of them have ever made any real difference to my game. Which is why I'm dossing around in my dressing gown writing this rubbish while Rory and Tiger are travelling the globe playing the world's best courses and being paid millions by Nike for doing it.
Or, in Rory's case, not doing it......
Ive not played for a long time ( fingers crossed will start again soon ) however when i did i was a pretty good player.
Im not sure what the balls are like now but imagine they will still have the smae principles.
Some for distance.
Some a average ball bit of distance and control .
some very soft for more control. ( or thats how it used to be )
They all feel and react different off the clubface, some give more spin etc. Even balls in the same class feel differnt not a huge difference between them though.
I've been using Titleist PTS Solo's (soft, lots of feel) and Dimplit 1070's (granite hard, long distance) but my scores are, give or take, the same with either of them - or with pretty much any other ball for that matter. And I don't notice any meaningful shot shape differences.
I play over 100 holes a week but I can be truly rubbish - lost four balls in 6 holes yesterday
cheddar said:
You might be right about the balls but a crappy hacker like me doesn't seem to get the benefit.
I've been using Titleist PTS Solo's (soft, lots of feel) and Dimplit 1070's (granite hard, long distance) but my scores are, give or take, the same with either of them - or with pretty much any other ball for that matter. And I don't notice any meaningful shot shape differences.
I play over 100 holes a week but I can be truly rubbish - lost four balls in 6 holes yesterday
Yeah the better player you are the more you can shape shots better balls help you to do that sort of thing. I've been using Titleist PTS Solo's (soft, lots of feel) and Dimplit 1070's (granite hard, long distance) but my scores are, give or take, the same with either of them - or with pretty much any other ball for that matter. And I don't notice any meaningful shot shape differences.
I play over 100 holes a week but I can be truly rubbish - lost four balls in 6 holes yesterday
Sounds like your doing the right thing using a PT'S well that's if they are as good as when I used to play.
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