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silverthorn2151

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6,304 posts

184 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Just took advantage of an offer and added ESPN to my Sky service. As a result I've been watching a bit of baseball.

So far the games I have watched have been dull as ditchwater and the guys just don't stop spitting!

I think I would enjoy it if

a) the hit the bloody ball more often
b) they stopped gobbing on the floor!

Should I stick with it for a bit longer? The 'Little League' world series I caught a bit of was more exciting.

And did I imagine that Ian Botham went to the US of A to play a bit of baseball.

spikeyhead

17,790 posts

202 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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It's a bit like cricket, you either need to really understand the intricacies of the game or watch it drunk

Stu R

21,410 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Just watch the highlight shows if you're not interested in the full thing - I find they're good sports to have on in the background while I work as there's little chance of missing anything, given it's mainly lots of nothing punctuated by the some brief bits of action. The odd time you catch a really good game makes it worthwhile I guess.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,476 posts

240 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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There's no draw in baseball. I once went to see the Cubbies play somebody else who couldn't hit the ball. It went on long enough to grow a beard! (and that was the g/f)

mikef

5,140 posts

256 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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If you have no-one to explain the game (not the rules, the game) to you, try these from Amazon:

Baseball Fan's Companion: How to Watch the Game Like an Expert [Paperback] Nick Bakalar (Author)

Watching Baseball Smarter: A Professional Fan's Guide for Beginners, Semi-Experts, and Deeply Serious Geeks [Paperback] Zack Hample (Author)

epom

12,159 posts

166 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Was at a game myself last year, and couldnt believe how little they actually connected with the ball. Guy next to me explained that they were trying to get the good batters out by throwing poor and illegal balls to them. Kinda made sense, but also made it very very boring !!

Blib

45,169 posts

202 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Terrific game, baseball. It has as many, if not more subtle nuances as cricket. OP stick iwth it, watch ESPN America's "Baseball Tonight" and the other magazine programmesand if you're a sports lover, I'm sure that you'll fall in love with the game.


lenandsons

1,317 posts

238 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Stick with it, started following it for the first time when I moved to Toronto about 4 years ago ( Our team the Blue Jays and CRAP ) but as has been said many little nuances much like a cricke match. some of the better games can be compared to a mix of 50 over and test match cricket. And sitting in the stadium can be lotsa fun indeed

wy906

3,169 posts

179 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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Love baseball.

Used to subscribe to mlb.tv (and also watch it on Channel 5) but not anymore due to lack of time. However I have been playing fantasy baseball for many years (not real baseball though biggrin) and even won a Channel 5 competition years ago!

silverthorn2151

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6,304 posts

184 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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I am sticking with it and I do enjoy watching it.

I appreciate the subtle elements and agree that there is much beneath the surface.

However!

Too much spitting.

Not enough hitting.

Did I dream that Ian Botham went to the USA and played baseball? In fact, I'm off to Google that.

mikef

5,140 posts

256 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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The MLB.com At Bat iPad app is pretty good. Highlights of every game and one live game a day.

Blib

45,169 posts

202 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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silverthorn2151 said:
Did I dream that Ian Botham went to the USA and played baseball? In fact, I'm off to Google that.
He had dreams, mostly concocted by his flamboyant manager at the time, of being a designated hitter. He didn't make anything of it. I thought at the time that it was a publicity stunt.

Mutley

3,178 posts

264 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Been watching baseball since 2004 when I went to see the White Sox, loved it even though I really didn't understand it well, but I spent a lot of time in a bar in Chicago that 2 week holiday as they had games on all afternoon and without the imersion, and chatting to locals about what was happening I don't think I'd watch it as much as I do. Subscribed to NASN (as was) getting a game a night at 6pm, and on mlb.com.

Now with mlbtv on the PS3, and subscribing I can watch any game, anytime. I generally watch a game a week, not always the team I support

OP, I agree that some games are dull, but stick with it, sometimes it can be tactical (sacrifice plays etc) and doesn't need full on concentration for the duration. And, if you're in the US during the summer, i'd suggest going to a game and taking in the atmosphere

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

172 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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spikeyhead said:
It's a bit like cricket, you either need to really understand the intricacies of the game or watch it drunk
This really.

I spent a winter as a groundsman for at the LA Dodgers winter training ground, so got to understand it, but have forgotten it all now. All of the US sports programmes and magazines will be awash with stats about baseball, it's the sort of game that lends itself to stats ans you just can't argue with them.

It is quite good once you understand it.

ArnageWRC

2,143 posts

164 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Blib said:
Terrific game, baseball. It has as many, if not more subtle nuances as cricket. OP stick iwth it, watch ESPN America's "Baseball Tonight" and the other magazine programmesand if you're a sports lover, I'm sure that you'll fall in love with the game.
I'd have to agree. Watched it occasionally during the Channel 5 era, but never got hooked. However, I accidentally turned ESPN America on 2 years ago, and Baseball Tonight was on, loved it, fantastic, informative, entertaining. Came home from work the next day to watch the re-run of Roy Halliday's no hitter v the Reds in the NLDS.
Did some research, bought the Zac Hample book, and also the Ed Smith book comparing Baseball and cricket - there are a lot of little similarities. Really, if you like one, you should have a feeling for the other. The number of stats is mind boggling, and even puts cricket to shame. In fact, I reckon cricket could learn from some of their stats, especially the fielding/ errors. Which is quite ironic, as the Baseball stats were derived from cricket, see Henry Chadwick.

Took a long time to choose a team though; liked both the Rangers and the Phillies. However, beginning of this season, I decided on the Reds - and we're doing pretty well, 3 games from the Post season, I think.

Blib

45,169 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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If you enjoy reading about baseball, I heartily recommend 'Ball Four' by Jim Bouton. A terrific account of the life of a journeyman pitcher. Bouton caused such a stir at the time that the book was first published in the 70s that many in the game shunned him.

It's hard to come by. But, you can sometimes find a second hand copy on e-Bay/Amazon.

There are many wonderful baseball books. The game's literature matches the depth and insight of that written about cricket.

FloppyRaccoon

1,916 posts

171 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I find it much more entertaining when you're actually at the stadium watching it. Never enjoyed it so much just on the TV.

One day I'll catch a ball, one day...

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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spikeyhead said:
It's a bit like cricket, you either need to really understand the intricacies of the game or watch it drunk
Yup, like cricket, except they seem to be under the impression baseball is all manly, and tough, or something.

Captain Cadillac

2,974 posts

192 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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I've been a baseball, and specifically NY Yankees fan, all my life. The trick is understanding the game, but that's like anything else. I will say that the last couple of regular season games in 2011 were nothing short of heart stopping.

In some ways it's a lot like Chess, there's substantial strategy involved.. Like when the Yankees, who had clinched, we're basically blowing the last series of the year to the Rays.

Well it kept Boston out of the post season, didn't it biggrin

Blib

45,169 posts

202 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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The Yankees don't have that particular problem this season.

hehe