Has your favourite sport benefited from Olympic legacy?

Has your favourite sport benefited from Olympic legacy?

Poll: Has your favourite sport benefited from Olympic legacy?

Total Members Polled: 64

Yes, massively: 19%
Yes, quite a bit: 9%
Only a tiny fraction: 6%
No, not at all: 66%
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Greg_D

Original Poster:

6,542 posts

251 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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LOGOC go on about legacy investment, but i am yet to see it. In my own personal experiences of the sports i have an interest in (three day eventing and shooting) it is quite the opposite.
They are reinventing the wheel mere miles from perfectly respectable existing and ongoing specialist sites that would genuinely benefit from an Olympic sized paint brush being waved at the place for the benefit of all participants going forward.

Equestrian: The greenwich park xc course is going to be totally dismantled and as far as i am aware there are going to be no ongoing benefit from all the money invested. The three day event at Windsor great park was recently cancelled due to them not being able to make a financial go of it, yet it is a stunning venue that would have benefited vastly from LOGOC money.

Shooting: they are erecting ballistic nets in the middle of london to catch stray munitions and spending a fortune on temporary shooting venues when you have the national shooting centre at Bisley (woking) that could have been a 1 stop shop for all the shooting disciplines and again, would have appreciated the splash of paint and new buildings.

How has legacy investment benefited/otherwise your favourite sport?

anonymous-user

59 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Football and cricket? Not likely.

DanDC5

19,087 posts

172 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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F1, BTCC, V8 Supercars and FIA WEC. Not one bit.

Changedmyname

12,545 posts

186 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I don't have a favourite sport so,I voted NO!

BlackVanDyke

9,932 posts

216 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Road cycling, and no, if anything the Olympics have benefited from previous legacy eg commonwealth games and Tour de France.

ewenm

28,506 posts

250 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I'm a runner - assuming some football team doesn't rip it out, it's great finally to have a complete stadium with an athletics track. If you watched any of the Diamond League (the top league in the world) athletics from the UK, it came from Birmingham and Crystal Palace - tracks with only partial stands around them. In other countries the DL visits (and mostly fills!) various ex-Olympic stadiums.

Given the UK's athletics history, not having a decent national stadium is something that has needed rectifying for years.

mattnunn

14,041 posts

166 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I like all sport, but if I had to pick one I'd pick boxing. I think the Olympic boxing for women needs the weight catogories addressing but in general the facility that they've built in Sheffield can only be a good thing for the sport in the long run.

davepoth

29,395 posts

204 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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DanDC5 said:
F1, BTCC, V8 Supercars and FIA WEC. Not one bit.
Hold on there a second, there's a chance we might have a Grand Prix around the Olympic park.

Happy82

15,078 posts

174 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I play ice hockey, so not surprised to see nothing there hehe

Also watch rugby and I am aware that my old club was unable to receive a grant / funding as the allocated sports money was mostly going towards the olympics (I think it was lottery funding?) so in that case the club has suffered due to the 'Olympic Legacy'.


harry010

4,423 posts

192 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Rowing - too early to tell I don't see it making any difference, plus Dorney already existed and they certainly haven't built any new rivers!


z4chris99

11,458 posts

184 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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should have had the shooting at bisley I agree...

rugby doesn't feature


Greg_D

Original Poster:

6,542 posts

251 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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Hmmmm,

It's not looking good for LOGOC, is it?

Can anyone point to any significant legacy projects (even if it isn't in their particular sphere of interest)

I would dearly love for the olympics to leave the sporting landscape in a better position than it found it for the £11bn, but i fear that when all is said and done, it will be all talk.

XCP

17,113 posts

233 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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Far too early to tell in my view.
The proof of the pudding will be in 8-16 years time when kids who have been inspired to take up sport show what they can achieve.
It is much more than bricks and mortar.

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

166 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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olympic stadium - After the Games Becomes a multi-use venue, hosting sport, cultural and community events, including being the new national
centre for athletics and the venue for the 2017 IAAF World Championships

swiming pool - After the Games, a créche, family-friendly training facilities, cafe and new public plaza will be added, and the venue’s two temporary seating wings removed.

bmx track - After the Games, it will form part of the Lee Valley VeloPark, along with the Velodrome and a new one-mile road cycle circuit and mountain bike courses – to be owned and managed by Lee Valley Regional Park Authority.

copper box (handball and some fencing) - After the Games Multi-use arena for community use, athlete training and events; reopening summer 2013

Eton Manor (aquatics training and wheelchair tennis) - After the Games Transformed into facilities for the local community, including a tennis centre with four indoor and six outdoor courts, hockey centre that will host 2015 European Championships, and space for 10 five-a-side football pitches

Riverbank arena (hockey) - After the Games Temporary seating stands dismantled

Velodrome - After the Games Along with a reconfigured BMX Track and new facilities for road cycling and mountain biking, forms the new Lee Valley VeloPark for use by community and elite athletes

Water polo arena - After the Games Taken down with elements of the venue expected to be reused or relocated elsewhere

basketball arena - After the Games dismantled with elements reused elsewhere


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athlete's village - After the Games, the Athletes' Village will become a lasting legacy for East London. Known as East Village, the brand new neighbourhood will provide 2, 818 new homes varying from one to four beds and with a variety of layouts and communal areas, all with generous space.

1,439 homes are owned by QDD, a consortium comprised of Qatari Diar and developer Delancey. These homes will be available from April 2013 and will be largely for rent. QDD also own six adjacent future development plots, with the potential to develop a further 2,000 homes.

1,379 homes are owned by Triathlon Homes, an innovative joint venture company which comprises of housing associations - East Thames Group and Southern Housing Group and developer, First Base. Triathlon Homes will manage the affordable homes at Athletes' Village which will include social rent, intermediate rent and part buy, part rent homes.

East Village will also include a brand new school (The Chobham Academy), a state of the art health centre, shops, community spaces, restaurants and residents will be on the doorstep of the largest new parkland to be created in Europe for over 150 years.


ofcorsa

3,535 posts

248 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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BlackVanDyke said:
Road cycling, and no, if anything the Olympics have benefited from previous legacy eg commonwealth games and Tour de France.
I thought London 2012 has always been the target for our cyclists? Investment over the past ten years have made the success possible.

Raify

6,552 posts

253 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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None at all. I do the other kind of Taekwondo...


Greg_D

Original Poster:

6,542 posts

251 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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rover 623gsi said:
olympic stadium - After the Games Becomes a multi-use venue, hosting sport, cultural and community events, including being the new national
centre for athletics and the venue for the 2017 IAAF World Championships

swiming pool - After the Games, a créche, family-friendly training facilities, cafe and new public plaza will be added, and the venue’s two temporary seating wings removed.

bmx track - After the Games, it will form part of the Lee Valley VeloPark, along with the Velodrome and a new one-mile road cycle circuit and mountain bike courses – to be owned and managed by Lee Valley Regional Park Authority.

copper box (handball and some fencing) - After the Games Multi-use arena for community use, athlete training and events; reopening summer 2013

Eton Manor (aquatics training and wheelchair tennis) - After the Games Transformed into facilities for the local community, including a tennis centre with four indoor and six outdoor courts, hockey centre that will host 2015 European Championships, and space for 10 five-a-side football pitches

Riverbank arena (hockey) - After the Games Temporary seating stands dismantled

Velodrome - After the Games Along with a reconfigured BMX Track and new facilities for road cycling and mountain biking, forms the new Lee Valley VeloPark for use by community and elite athletes

Water polo arena - After the Games Taken down with elements of the venue expected to be reused or relocated elsewhere

basketball arena - After the Games dismantled with elements reused elsewhere


...

athlete's village - After the Games, the Athletes' Village will become a lasting legacy for East London. Known as East Village, the brand new neighbourhood will provide 2, 818 new homes varying from one to four beds and with a variety of layouts and communal areas, all with generous space.

1,439 homes are owned by QDD, a consortium comprised of Qatari Diar and developer Delancey. These homes will be available from April 2013 and will be largely for rent. QDD also own six adjacent future development plots, with the potential to develop a further 2,000 homes.

1,379 homes are owned by Triathlon Homes, an innovative joint venture company which comprises of housing associations - East Thames Group and Southern Housing Group and developer, First Base. Triathlon Homes will manage the affordable homes at Athletes' Village which will include social rent, intermediate rent and part buy, part rent homes.

East Village will also include a brand new school (The Chobham Academy), a state of the art health centre, shops, community spaces, restaurants and residents will be on the doorstep of the largest new parkland to be created in Europe for over 150 years.
Thanks for contributing, so the elements that are going to be used (as competed in) going forward are the velopark, the main stadium (i thought there were footy teams trying to buy it?) and the swimming pool.

they appear to be scratching around for a use for the rest, and it will certainly not be of any use to the sports that it housed for the duration of the games. And that is kind of the point...

The homes have been handed over to developers (no doubt at a loss) to make the estate sheet look a bit better.

It's pretty poor really, isn't it, i can see quite a few white elephants in the making.

£11,000,000,000.00.........Hmmmmm

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

166 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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the money spent was never just abotu facilities - but personally, I think it's not a bad return at all. Basically, everything is either going to get used in some capacity or recycled.

anonymous-user

59 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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I'm slightly amending my post about no legacy for football.
Hopefully the OG will enhance our bid for the 2018 World Cup. Most stadia already in place and upto scratch, Olympic Stadium highly likely to be used.

jcremonini

2,106 posts

172 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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I think most of you have missed the meaning of legacy. It's not just about the stadia and facilities left over, it's about getting the young out of their houses and playing sport. It's about getting everyone healthy and being proud to be British.