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Looked very frail last night at the ceremony and to be truthful i found it quite upsetting.
I consider myself so very blessed to have met him in 1986 when he still resembled his old self.
I was only 23 at the time and to be able to spend 15 minutes or so chatting to your idol takes some beating.
Damn, why do some people have to grow old :-(
It will be a sad day indeed when he passes and we will never see his likes again.
I consider myself so very blessed to have met him in 1986 when he still resembled his old self.
I was only 23 at the time and to be able to spend 15 minutes or so chatting to your idol takes some beating.
Damn, why do some people have to grow old :-(
It will be a sad day indeed when he passes and we will never see his likes again.
keslake said:
Looked very frail last night at the ceremony and to be truthful i found it quite upsetting.
me too. TBH I wish they wouldn't parade him at ceremonies such as this - they're painful to watch when you remember him in his prime.My favourite book about him
http://www.amazon.com/Muhammad-Ali-His-Life-Times/...
I would even go so far as to say that if his funeral is public it could be on a similar scale
to Princess Diana's.
Sure he upset some people earlier on in his career but i would like to think most of that is now either
forgiven or forgotten.
I read somewhere a couple yrs back that he is the most loved person on the Planet ?
Heres hoping he has a few good years yet and more importantly he has a decent quality of life.
to Princess Diana's.
Sure he upset some people earlier on in his career but i would like to think most of that is now either
forgiven or forgotten.
I read somewhere a couple yrs back that he is the most loved person on the Planet ?
Heres hoping he has a few good years yet and more importantly he has a decent quality of life.
Getting old is one thing (and bad enough) but getting a disease like that at such a comparatively young age is horrible. It looks like medical science is gradually making headway though, and whilst it will be too late for Muhammad Ali, at least it will help many others out there. Should he be able to attend future ceremonies, then I think it should be enough simply to have his presence there, without actively involving him.
I read today of a 96 year old woman who died whilst doing a charity abseil. I'm sure it was traumatic, but not a bad way to go all said, clearly comparatively fit at 96 (it was her 9th abseil) then -click- gone.
I read today of a 96 year old woman who died whilst doing a charity abseil. I'm sure it was traumatic, but not a bad way to go all said, clearly comparatively fit at 96 (it was her 9th abseil) then -click- gone.
I found it very upsetting watching him during the ceremony and TBH I don't think it was fair him being there.
I have seen the effects of Parkinsons on a very close family member and I know that he wouldn't have wanted anyone to see him in the condition that it reduced him to. It's terribly sad.
I have seen the effects of Parkinsons on a very close family member and I know that he wouldn't have wanted anyone to see him in the condition that it reduced him to. It's terribly sad.
Sure he upset some people earlier on in his career but i would like to think most of that is now either
forgiven or forgotten.
I read somewhere a couple yrs back that he is the most loved person on the Planet ?
Joe Frazier might disagree with you, have you seen "thriller in Manilla" recently? Ali is a legend in every sense of the word, some would argue that the only way he beat Frazier physically was to beat him mentally first. I don't dispute the man has done incredible things not only for the sport but for humanity through the years, but not everyone in the world would be rushing to pay their respects.
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Sure he upset some people earlier on in his career but i would like to think most of that is now either
forgiven or forgotten.
I read somewhere a couple yrs back that he is the most loved person on the Planet ?
Joe Frazier might disagree with you, have you seen "thriller in Manilla" recently? Ali is a legend in every sense of the word, some would argue that the only way he beat Frazier physically was to beat him mentally first. I don't dispute the man has done incredible things not only for the sport but for humanity through the years, but not everyone in the world would be rushing to pay their respects.
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I would.
Sure he upset some people earlier on in his career but i would like to think most of that is now either
forgiven or forgotten.
I read somewhere a couple yrs back that he is the most loved person on the Planet ?
Joe Frazier might disagree with you, have you seen "thriller in Manilla" recently? Ali is a legend in every sense of the word, some would argue that the only way he beat Frazier physically was to beat him mentally first. I don't dispute the man has done incredible things not only for the sport but for humanity through the years, but not everyone in the world would be rushing to pay their respects.
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I would.
I think even Smoking Joe mellowed in the end.
Very moving to see him choked up in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh3E2z-pXd8&fea...
Very moving to see him choked up in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh3E2z-pXd8&fea...
Born 1942, so although 'mature', not really old by current standards, there are plenty of people older than that who are still very active. Sad that he has this disease.
It does seem odd to wheel him out for the Olympics, but presumably him or his wife would have said No if they though it wan't appropriate.
It does seem odd to wheel him out for the Olympics, but presumably him or his wife would have said No if they though it wan't appropriate.
Kays vRS said:
I found it very upsetting watching him during the ceremony and TBH I don't think it was fair him being there.
I have seen the effects of Parkinsons on a very close family member and I know that he wouldn't have wanted anyone to see him in the condition that it reduced him to. It's terribly sad.
I don't believe that it was a decision made for him - he chose himself and fair play for it.I have seen the effects of Parkinsons on a very close family member and I know that he wouldn't have wanted anyone to see him in the condition that it reduced him to. It's terribly sad.
The thing I really, really don't understand is the refusal to use a wheelchair in public eg in the opening ceremony - he could have paraded in with the flag, held on to a corner of it or whatever, rather than just being plonked in a chair at the end of their march/walk in. Doesn't make sense.
BlackVanDyke said:
I don't believe that it was a decision made for him - he chose himself and fair play for it.
The thing I really, really don't understand is the refusal to use a wheelchair in public eg in the opening ceremony - he could have paraded in with the flag, held on to a corner of it or whatever, rather than just being plonked in a chair at the end of their march/walk in. Doesn't make sense.
The image you imagine the world has of you versus the actual image the world holds are sometimes very different.The thing I really, really don't understand is the refusal to use a wheelchair in public eg in the opening ceremony - he could have paraded in with the flag, held on to a corner of it or whatever, rather than just being plonked in a chair at the end of their march/walk in. Doesn't make sense.
I think he wants to continue to try and portray that image we once all had of him.
He'd be no less great if was wheeled in. Wish he knew that.
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