Rugby Union law amendments

Rugby Union law amendments

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Derek Smith

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46,311 posts

253 months

Monday 9th July 2012
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What are the views on the new 'trail' law amendments. Ball available in a ruck is sensible now you can't punch the opposing forwards and I can see the logic of the the quick throw in. The 90 second law on conversions mignt need to be flexible. But what are the details of the rolling substitutions?

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

193 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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I reckon the 90 seconds will catch a lot of people out.

timlongs

1,731 posts

184 months

Tuesday 10th July 2012
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Life Saab Itch said:
I reckon the 90 seconds will catch a lot of people out.
Bit like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8oC__AkpE

Glad of the 5 second rule with rucks, this caterpillar thing or whatever they're calling it is ridiculous to watch.

ellroy

7,198 posts

230 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Not being at the cutting edge any longer is there a brief summary of the changes anywhere, rather than the full RFU spiel, anywhere Derek?

DocJock

8,466 posts

245 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Full summary of the trial amendments here Ellroy.

http://www.irblaws.com/2012/index.php?language=en


davepoth

29,395 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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The ruck rule is really going to speed the game up I think; should be a good addition.

JonnyFive

29,502 posts

194 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Not a fan of the 'Crouch' - 'Touch' - 'Set'. 'Engage' is a far better word.

Pugster

443 posts

186 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Like the 5 second ruck rule. The pauses were getting ridiculously long.

Does this mean they are going back to the old way of scrum engagement albeit with a different "engage" word? Hope so. That pause bit was a load of old bks that seemed to cause more problems than it solved

oj121

1,548 posts

177 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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At least the ruck rule will signal the end of Mike Phillips. 5 seconds?? He needs 10 to get his hands in place to start his run up.

I dont like the quick lineout rule. Your going to see players legging it up the touch line now and it will get silly.

ellroy

7,198 posts

230 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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DocJock said:
Full summary of the trial amendments here Ellroy.

http://www.irblaws.com/2012/index.php?language=en
Thank you!

Haggleburyfinius

6,625 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I hope there is a basketball shot clock type device for this ruck time thingy.

SKY will already by rubbing themselves silly at the thought of a new on screen toy!

disco1

1,963 posts

223 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I can understand the need for time limits at the breakdown or rules to improve scrums but the quick thrown ruling is pretty darn weird!

In a nutshell the ball receiving player can bolt his way up the line making 20/40/60 yards, throw it in v quickly and have his forwards ready to support, this is assuming half the defending pack will chase the kick to provide support and the other half will run straight to the line of the kicker to await the quick throw in?

What if the receiving player catches it runs up field to take a quickie and a quickie cant be taken? Do they have to go all the way back down the pitch? Isn't this just going to add 'ball out of play' time to the game?

What if a player clears the ball from within their own try line and puts the ball down to within the oppo's 22 and relieves the pressure, in old rules that would be an excellent kick, now the oppo's player can simply run it back to the kickers 5m line and keep the pressure on?????

I'm confused frown

What was wrong with the old quick throw rule? This is just going to make the kicking game look like a player relay!!!

oj121

1,548 posts

177 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Disco, thank you for having the patience to write what I wanted to say but didnt have time to. I completely agree with you on this and think its a stupid rule change that really did not need changing. Its just going to 'potentially' make a mockery of someone at some point. Quick throws will be forced in order to retain the advantage in the above circs. Throw to a pod and seal off (within the laws) and you gain yourself 50 meters.

no effort

224 posts

184 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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When will a lineout be formed now?

It won't be in the interest of the receiving team to have a lineout they'll want the ball thrown in as far up the field as possible.

As an occasional winger for a pub side I can imgine my new role is ball fetcher. Run back, pick the ball up, run up and throw in.

disco1

1,963 posts

223 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Wingers in training yesterday








no effort

224 posts

184 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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disco1 said:
Wingers in training yesterday

frown

Good news if you're a forward.