Snowboarders! Some questions...

Snowboarders! Some questions...

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Mr Pies

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8,892 posts

192 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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I am going to have snowboarding lessons next friday, I am doing the one day thing where at the end you (so they say) can board to a 'recreational standard'.

Anyway, I was after some recommendations for knee pads, preferably ones that I could use for when I am mountain biking as well if thats possible?

Also any other advice for a complete novice would be superb thanks!

Hackney

6,954 posts

213 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Forget knee pads and get an arse pad.

muppetdave

2,118 posts

230 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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Yeah I wouldn't bother with knee pads. If you feel the urge to splash some cash on safety equipment get yourself some wrist-guards.

fandango_c

1,942 posts

191 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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muppetdave said:
Yeah I wouldn't bother with knee pads. If you feel the urge to splash some cash on safety equipment get yourself some wrist-guards.
This.


Hackney said:
Forget knee pads and get an arse pad.
And this.

pablo87

19 posts

165 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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as above... deffo get the crash pads.. I done the one day course when i first started. I can guarentee you will be falling on your backside at least 100 times that day so its gonna hurt if not!! Have fun anyway!

Raify

6,552 posts

253 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Knee pads not needed IMHO, you don't tend to have big impacts there.

You're better off:

1. Learning how to fall over well (without breaking your fall with hands)
2. Getting some padded shorts to give your coccyx some protection

Wrist guards are bit of a marmite thing. Some people swear by them, some people point out that it just transmits the energy of your fall up your arm to the elbow.

nick s

1,371 posts

222 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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I'm a a competent skier and have been skiing every year for about 10 years.
I tried a day of snowboarding lessons in Switzerland last year, and at the end of the day i was nowhere near being a recreational snowboarder!! much much harder than i was expecting!!! biggrin good luck!

KemP

492 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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As everyone else has said. Wrist guards and a helmet.

Mr E

22,041 posts

264 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Wrist guards, wrist guards and wrist guards.

If your indoor in the UK, I wouldn't worry about the helmet, you won't be going fast enough.

After a day I'd expect control with both edges and linking turns....not a lot more.

Good luck, and enjoy it. The first time it clicks and flows properly is brilliant.

Greenie

1,835 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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I learn 17 years ago on a fresh blanket of snow and I still remember the pain. But I remember when I finally "got" it even more!

Definately a helmet, it doesn't matter how slow you go an unexpected edge can lead to a significant bump on the head. Not keen on wrist guards but I would wear them if learning again esp if I was learning on an artifical slope and the real holiday was looming (you don't want to miss the holiday with a broken wrist).

However what hurts most is your bum but unlikley to lead to anything serious or holiday threatening.

So:
Helmet-defo
Wrist guards-only if you are going away soon after
Arse pads-only if you are a big girl's blouse

Mr E

22,041 posts

264 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Teddye4687 said:
I'd say the opposite.

Yes, if you catch a heel edge whilst on your toes, at speed, you could die.
Accepted you're more likely to catch an edge, but there are no rocks to clatter, and you won't hit sheet ice. The plyboard the thin layer of "snow" is on will give when you smack it. It won't kill you, and if you do pick up a sore head, it doesn't trash your holiday.


Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

154 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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With respect Mr. E, that's a load of rubbish. Falling at high speed from five or six feet up is plenty enough to die. Knocked myself out a few times before I saw the light.

Snowboarding tips: 1) Helmet. 2) Helmet 3) Helmet.

The point though is to have fun, so don't spend your time worrying about safety, try to enjoy the riding. The single biggest piece of advice you can possibly take is this:

KEEP YOUR WEIGHT ON THE FRONT FOOT AT ALL TIMES.

That reaaly is the single most important thing. Next, you must always ride on an edge. This means learning to finesse your weight through your toes or heels - you can only pick it up with practice, but if you ride the board flat at any speed, it will begin to rotate and catch an edge & over you will go.

Finally, bend the knees. Really bend them. They are your shock absorbers & you will progress much more quickly if you remember to bend them until your legs are burning. This is the reason you see so many boarders sitting at the side of the piste. It's also the reason you see so many stiff legged boarders bouncing down the mountain.

It's a lot to put together, but you will. It took me about a day, but then I did have an ex Marine bking me into the skillz zone. Get on it & enjoy, it's magic.

Gazzas86

1,726 posts

176 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Its all been said above, I did one of those learn in a day at Milton Keynes, great day, and i could 'board' by the end of it, All be it 7 years ago, but still fresh in my mind, My recomendations....Wrist Guards & Crash pants, you'll have no choice about the helmet, there compulsory, i had to drive 2 hours after it and i wish i had wrist guards on, it cained the whole journey back trying to change gear etc. Sorry for the st grammar/spelling PH Spelling police wink

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Yeah that is true! All credit though to the beginner who goes for powder on day one!!

Gazzas86

1,726 posts

176 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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I value my head too much to not wear a helmet haha, plus it has built in speakers/headphones so i can listen to the tunes as i go, i work on the theory that i'ld rather have one and not need one than need one and not have one etc etc wink.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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I was the same until I took a tonking, showing off doing jumps. I remember waking up & seeing blue sky & lots of rosey faced boarders.

Personal choice, but I wouldn't ride without one now. Funnily enough, I've never ridden with wrist guards or arse pads, never felt the need. Then again, I have done seasons & my mates are ex. British team riders from the downhill days, which rubs off a bit in terms of skills & confidence I suppose.

beefcake42

267 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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The thing about a helmet is the first time you do need it, and don't have it, might be your last.

You can be super confident, and look super rad not wearing a helmet... but you wont remember how gnarly you were whilst your nearest and dearest are having to feed you and wipe your bum.

Not worth the risk.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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I don't buy the argument that a helmet is a danger in itsdelf because it's a hard object. Anything doing upwards of thirty miles an hour in a crowd of people is by definition a hazard.

The worst accidents I've had have always been getting cleared out by a sketchy punter careering around out of control at warp 9. Usually boarders I have to say in my experience, but I have been clattered to the deck a few times and hit my head doing it. Like the man said, if you ever need one, you better be sure to have one.

My other great bug bear is idiots stopping in the middle of pistes. Why oh why don't people move to the side when they need to stop, it's so fking obvious and yet you see it every single day - please mow me down, I've stopped here in the middle of a high speed run to make it easier for you to do.

Mr E

22,041 posts

264 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Justin Cyder said:
With respect Mr. E, that's a load of rubbish. Falling at high speed from five or six feet up is plenty enough to die. Knocked myself out a few times before I saw the light.
Knocked yourself out learning to hold an edge on an indoor slope?



Gazzas86

1,726 posts

176 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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My helmet has saved my noggin once before so i can justify it, Doing the boarder cross in Val Thorens....traveling at speed..caught the wrong edge...flipped/barrel rolled 3 times..hit my head hard once enough to make something crack in my helmet, If i had no helmet i would have lost a few brain cells that day.