Boxing Thrilla in Manilla
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Heads up this is currently on sky anytime.
Watching it for the second time in a row tonight. What a fight.
Why has there not been a heavy weight fight since 1990 which has even given one round of this quality??? These guys stand up to the hits come back they want that belt so much it isn't about money it's pride.
I'd say since the 80's we have only had slugs on the heavy weight division
Watching it for the second time in a row tonight. What a fight.
Why has there not been a heavy weight fight since 1990 which has even given one round of this quality??? These guys stand up to the hits come back they want that belt so much it isn't about money it's pride.
I'd say since the 80's we have only had slugs on the heavy weight division
Welshbeef said:
Heads up this is currently on sky anytime.
Watching it for the second time in a row tonight. What a fight.
Why has there not been a heavy weight fight since 1990 which has even given one round of this quality??? These guys stand up to the hits come back they want that belt so much it isn't about money it's pride.
I'd say since the 80's we have only had slugs on the heavy weight division
I agree the likes of Klitschko, Audely Harrison, and David Haye are a joke compared to these classic fighters.Watching it for the second time in a row tonight. What a fight.
Why has there not been a heavy weight fight since 1990 which has even given one round of this quality??? These guys stand up to the hits come back they want that belt so much it isn't about money it's pride.
I'd say since the 80's we have only had slugs on the heavy weight division
Boxing has become a media circus with nonsense fights. remember the lower weights like Roberto Duran, Thomas The Hit Man Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, and so on.
The fight game now does not contain one fighter with the grit of this lot.
Happens sometimes.
I doubt it will improve like Formula 1 its becoming a Media circus. With the 'right' man 'winning'.
Too much fiddling in every sport.
We were lucky to live in those times. Remember the Rumble in the Jungle.
Ali was the greatest boxer I ever saw. There are no more like that about.
The only decent fight I've seen in recent memory was
calzage v Lacy plus he did it with a broken hand...
That seems to be the weight division where you get action these days.
Personally I don't get it pride or winning is the important thing and the belt. I can imagine Joe Fraizer wouldn't have given a toss if he had received any money for the fights against ALI if he had won.
Pacio is good I'll give him that.
But we know heavy weight is pants so really if your a big chap train hard learn the skills you will easily top the tree as only muppets and the brothers gay are in that division. The lesser weight divisions really are much harder to excel in so go easy route win the heay weight.
calzage v Lacy plus he did it with a broken hand...
That seems to be the weight division where you get action these days.
Personally I don't get it pride or winning is the important thing and the belt. I can imagine Joe Fraizer wouldn't have given a toss if he had received any money for the fights against ALI if he had won.
Pacio is good I'll give him that.
But we know heavy weight is pants so really if your a big chap train hard learn the skills you will easily top the tree as only muppets and the brothers gay are in that division. The lesser weight divisions really are much harder to excel in so go easy route win the heay weight.
tuscaneer said:
steffan and welshbeef? ! Pair of d
heads. Welshbeef,i notice you have actually managed to spell frazier's name right this time(your last effort you typed 'frasier').speaks volumes about your knowledge of the sport
I don't check the spelling on the iPhone very often as you have probably guessed. So don't jump to conclusions. You have been told heads. Welshbeef,i notice you have actually managed to spell frazier's name right this time(your last effort you typed 'frasier').speaks volumes about your knowledge of the sport 
Anyway you didn't answer the question as you clearly disagree who in the 90's and 00 and 10 decades heavy weight are better or even close the the heavy weight division per 90's as in all time pre 90's???
It's a dull dull division and has been for decades Christ even foreman himself came back in his 50's and won a few fights. Lennox wasn't much Tyson post rape case was past it sheckleton and Harrison are shockingly bad Haye should never have gone up a weight too small. Klitcko brothers would be smashed by any decent heavy weight.
So come on where is the talent in the last two and a bit decades??? And where is there high quality opponents wheee at the start of the fight Boone really knows who will win. Likewise it's slow slow slow now compare the Thrilla in Manila first three rounds I'd say possibly more punches thrown and landed than in twelve rounds on modern era heavyweight.
tuscaneer said:
steffan and welshbeef? ! Pair of dheads. Welshbeef,i notice you have actually managed to spell frazier's name right this time(your last effort you typed 'frasier').speaks volumes about your knowledge of the sport
Is there another section where PHs with less knowledge than you are allowed to express their views without personal abuse?heads. Welshbeef,i notice you have actually managed to spell frazier's name right this time(your last effort you typed 'frasier').speaks volumes about your knowledge of the sport foreman was in his 40's.don't blame your iphone for such a fundamental error.lennox wasn't up to much was he? Your levels of stupidity regarding this sport are staggering.i will not restate my case here.i suggest you go back to the start of this thread and start again.you will find plenty of my opinions on this matter.
tuscaneer said:
foreman was in his 40's.don't blame your iphone for such a fundamental error.lennox wasn't up to much was he? Your levels of stupidity regarding this sport are staggering.i will not restate my case here.i suggest you go back to the start of this thread and start again.you will find plenty of my opinions on this matter.
You have posted twice on this thread and refuse for some obscure reason who the heavy weight greats in the 90/00/10's are. Come on man up just state who these are and where these excellent heavy weight fights of the 90/00/10 are as I've not watched any. tuscaneer said:
sorry i meant the boxing thread.there is nigh on 100 pages of boxing related chat where you will find my opinions on heavyweight boxing going back to the early 1700's
Will check it out. What are your thoughts on this specific fight thrilla in Manila? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heavyweight...
Greenie said:
Is there another section where PHs with less knowledge than you are allowed to express their views without personal abuse?
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but well thought out, well reasoned opinions are more likely to elicit a positive response. My initial thought was the first three posts were written off the back of some Friday night refreshment intake, but maybe I was being a little too generous...The posts went from the dubious ("remember the lower weights like Roberto Duran, Thomas The Hit Man Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, and so on. The fight game now does not contain one fighter with the grit of this lot"), through the laughable ("Why has there not been a heavy weight fight since 1990 which has even given one round of this quality???") to the ridiculous ("The only decent fight I've seen in recent memory was calzage v Lacy"). But hey, everyone's entitled to their opinions I guess...
However, to call the Klitschkos 'the brothers gay' is just purile and IMO got the kind of response it deserved...
Edited by Yiliterate on Saturday 12th November 11:33
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