Footblers and Sportsmen

Footblers and Sportsmen

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Glassman

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22,939 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Footballers will play feign injury to con the referee/gain advantages/diffuse the opponent's attack.

They will even criticise their opponent for not kicking the ball out of play so that an 'injured' player can be seen to with the magic sponge. Some referees will not tolerate it's rare; this behaviour exists and happens so much, it's almost part of the gamesmanship.

A Rugby player goes down, play continues around him (even as he's being seen to).

I'm not buying the risk of injury theory as the potential injuries between the two disciplines need no explaining (although I fear the probabilities and statistics may prove otherwise).


Gargamel

15,175 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Glassman said:
Footballers will play feign injury to con the referee/gain advantages/diffuse the opponent's attack.

They will even criticise their opponent for not kicking the ball out of play so that an 'injured' player can be seen to with the magic sponge. Some referees will not tolerate it's rare; this behaviour exists and happens so much, it's almost part of the gamesmanship.

A Rugby player goes down, play continues around him (even as he's being seen to).

I'm not buying the risk of injury theory as the potential injuries between the two disciplines need no explaining (although I fear the probabilities and statistics may prove otherwise).
So far though no 'footblers' have allowed themselves to be cut with a scapel so that they can go off.

Glassman

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22,939 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Gargamel said:
So far though no 'footblers' have allowed themselves to be cut with a scapel so that they can go off.
any other examples to tip the balance?

monkey gland

574 posts

160 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Glassman said:
any other examples to tip the balance?
Tom Williams and blood capsules.

Oh wait, that's rugby too.

RichB

52,521 posts

289 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Glassman said:
Gargamel said:
So far though no 'footblers' have allowed themselves to be cut with a scapel so that they can go off.
any other examples to tip the balance?
What balance? It is a simple statement of fact.


anonymous-user

59 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Glassman said:
Footballers will play feign injury to con the referee/gain advantages/diffuse the opponent's attack.
Ireland have been doing that for years with their magic shoelaces that always come undone when they're tired or about to have a difficult scrum/lineout wink

ewenm

28,506 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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monkey gland said:
Tom Williams and blood capsules.

Oh wait, that's rugby too.
Isn't that the same example? Williams (and physio/doc) did the blood capsule thing, and then did the scalpel cut to "prove" it.

There's cheating in both sports, it's part of the games. Personally I prefer the rugby style of cheating to the football style; less haranguing of the referee in rugby or maybe just stronger refereeing in rugby to cut the backchat.

Melvin Udall

73,668 posts

260 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Ah yes, the age old 'footballers cheat but rugby players are clean as a whstle'... Carry on.

Gargamel

15,175 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd October 2011
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Gamesmanship exists in both sports of course, It would be impossible to argue anything else.

It is just different customs in each sport. Rugby injuries are dealt with on the pitch, Football DOESN'T stop for an injury, hence the reason the players often kick the ball out, so that a fellow player can be treated.

Of course, some prove to be (ahem) less serious than first suspected, hence the need for the player to leave the field and wait until the ref allows him to re join. Rugby I guess probably breaks naturally and for longer more frequently anyway so a numerical disadvantage is more easily dealt with.

Bing o

15,184 posts

224 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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Golf is about the only mainstream sport where players still have honour and integrity that I can think of.

Rugby players might respect the referee but they will still cheat if they think they can get away with it. It's also almost unheard of in oikball for one player to gouge another...

Eric Mc

122,681 posts

270 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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Sticking to the various football games out there, ff anyone watches Gaelic Football there does seem to be far less blatant cheating going on in it.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

289 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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Watching Aussie rules one day and a player clothes lined someone big time, ref blew up and the offender gave it the old "Moi?"

I expect every sport will have someone playing up to the rules and beyond for an advantage and trying to get away with stuff that perhaps does not file under "sportpersonship"

Glassman

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22,939 posts

220 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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Bing o said:
It's also almost unheard of in oikball for one player to gouge another...
Man marking in football/set pieces etc

sleep envy

62,260 posts

254 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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anyone seen the pinching that was going on yesterday in QPRs box?

very funny

tonym911

17,071 posts

210 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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sleep envy said:
anyone seen the pinching that was going on yesterday in QPRs box?

very funny
That's a Chelsea specialism, D Wise used to be a prime exponent of it.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

254 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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tonym911 said:
That's a Chelsea specialism, D Wise used to be a prime exponent of it.
he also features in golf, a nasty 5 footer

elster

17,517 posts

215 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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Bing o said:
Golf is about the only mainstream sport where players still have honour and integrity that I can think of.

Rugby players might respect the referee but they will still cheat if they think they can get away with it. It's also almost unheard of in oikball for one player to gouge another...
No, games such as crown green bowling and shuffleboard have a modicum of honour amongst sportsman.


Bing o

15,184 posts

224 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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Glassman said:
Bing o said:
It's also almost unheard of in oikball for one player to gouge another...
Man marking in football/set pieces etc
Eye gouging? Really? Footballers would be too scared to chip their nail varnish on the eye-socket.

Melvin Udall

73,668 posts

260 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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Eye gauging? Pansies!




Happy82

15,078 posts

174 months

Monday 24th October 2011
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As much as I detest football, I've noticed a lot more unsporting conduct in rugby recently. Such as a South African developping a taste for ears or the French pretending they're injured to waste minutes on the clock when playing against Wales in the semi-final this year irked

I doubt we'll ever see spectacular faking of injuries like this below in rugby, they'd be laughed off the pitch and given a handbag laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIM9w4mv0wo&fea...