Footblers and Sportsmen
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Footballers will play feign injury to con the referee/gain advantages/diffuse the opponent's attack.
They will even criticise their opponent for not kicking the ball out of play so that an 'injured' player can be seen to with the magic sponge. Some referees will not tolerate it's rare; this behaviour exists and happens so much, it's almost part of the gamesmanship.
A Rugby player goes down, play continues around him (even as he's being seen to).
I'm not buying the risk of injury theory as the potential injuries between the two disciplines need no explaining (although I fear the probabilities and statistics may prove otherwise).
They will even criticise their opponent for not kicking the ball out of play so that an 'injured' player can be seen to with the magic sponge. Some referees will not tolerate it's rare; this behaviour exists and happens so much, it's almost part of the gamesmanship.
A Rugby player goes down, play continues around him (even as he's being seen to).
I'm not buying the risk of injury theory as the potential injuries between the two disciplines need no explaining (although I fear the probabilities and statistics may prove otherwise).
Glassman said:
Footballers will play feign injury to con the referee/gain advantages/diffuse the opponent's attack.
They will even criticise their opponent for not kicking the ball out of play so that an 'injured' player can be seen to with the magic sponge. Some referees will not tolerate it's rare; this behaviour exists and happens so much, it's almost part of the gamesmanship.
A Rugby player goes down, play continues around him (even as he's being seen to).
I'm not buying the risk of injury theory as the potential injuries between the two disciplines need no explaining (although I fear the probabilities and statistics may prove otherwise).
So far though no 'footblers' have allowed themselves to be cut with a scapel so that they can go off. They will even criticise their opponent for not kicking the ball out of play so that an 'injured' player can be seen to with the magic sponge. Some referees will not tolerate it's rare; this behaviour exists and happens so much, it's almost part of the gamesmanship.
A Rugby player goes down, play continues around him (even as he's being seen to).
I'm not buying the risk of injury theory as the potential injuries between the two disciplines need no explaining (although I fear the probabilities and statistics may prove otherwise).
monkey gland said:
Tom Williams and blood capsules.
Oh wait, that's rugby too.
Isn't that the same example? Williams (and physio/doc) did the blood capsule thing, and then did the scalpel cut to "prove" it.Oh wait, that's rugby too.
There's cheating in both sports, it's part of the games. Personally I prefer the rugby style of cheating to the football style; less haranguing of the referee in rugby or maybe just stronger refereeing in rugby to cut the backchat.
Gamesmanship exists in both sports of course, It would be impossible to argue anything else.
It is just different customs in each sport. Rugby injuries are dealt with on the pitch, Football DOESN'T stop for an injury, hence the reason the players often kick the ball out, so that a fellow player can be treated.
Of course, some prove to be (ahem) less serious than first suspected, hence the need for the player to leave the field and wait until the ref allows him to re join. Rugby I guess probably breaks naturally and for longer more frequently anyway so a numerical disadvantage is more easily dealt with.
It is just different customs in each sport. Rugby injuries are dealt with on the pitch, Football DOESN'T stop for an injury, hence the reason the players often kick the ball out, so that a fellow player can be treated.
Of course, some prove to be (ahem) less serious than first suspected, hence the need for the player to leave the field and wait until the ref allows him to re join. Rugby I guess probably breaks naturally and for longer more frequently anyway so a numerical disadvantage is more easily dealt with.
Golf is about the only mainstream sport where players still have honour and integrity that I can think of.
Rugby players might respect the referee but they will still cheat if they think they can get away with it. It's also almost unheard of in oikball for one player to gouge another...
Rugby players might respect the referee but they will still cheat if they think they can get away with it. It's also almost unheard of in oikball for one player to gouge another...
Watching Aussie rules one day and a player clothes lined someone big time, ref blew up and the offender gave it the old "Moi?"
I expect every sport will have someone playing up to the rules and beyond for an advantage and trying to get away with stuff that perhaps does not file under "sportpersonship"
I expect every sport will have someone playing up to the rules and beyond for an advantage and trying to get away with stuff that perhaps does not file under "sportpersonship"
Bing o said:
Golf is about the only mainstream sport where players still have honour and integrity that I can think of.
Rugby players might respect the referee but they will still cheat if they think they can get away with it. It's also almost unheard of in oikball for one player to gouge another...
No, games such as crown green bowling and shuffleboard have a modicum of honour amongst sportsman. Rugby players might respect the referee but they will still cheat if they think they can get away with it. It's also almost unheard of in oikball for one player to gouge another...
As much as I detest football, I've noticed a lot more unsporting conduct in rugby recently. Such as a South African developping a taste for ears or the French pretending they're injured to waste minutes on the clock when playing against Wales in the semi-final this year
I doubt we'll ever see spectacular faking of injuries like this below in rugby, they'd be laughed off the pitch and given a handbag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIM9w4mv0wo&fea...
I doubt we'll ever see spectacular faking of injuries like this below in rugby, they'd be laughed off the pitch and given a handbag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIM9w4mv0wo&fea...
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